Mavs need to cut losses, trade AD and Kyrie and embrace the tank

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Re: Mavs need to cut losses, trade AD and Kyrie and embrace the tank 

Post#61 » by Archx » Tue Nov 11, 2025 9:32 pm

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Optms wrote:Lively for Rui checks out. Lakers will toss in some 2nds as well so the Mavs can stockpile picks. Win win for both sides if this is the route Mavs are choosing to go. Time to embrace the tank.


I like Lively but for the Lakers I think recourses need to be used elsewhere. They already have a serviceable center rotation with Ayton/Hayes. They need an athletic wing more than anything. A plug and play guy who can shoot and guard at a decent clip. Easier said than done, i know, but thats where the efforts need to be put as far as trades are concerned. Rui is probably gonna be a key trade piece. Gotta use him wisely


I'm not sure Rui is ever going to be traded just like that. He's exactly what Luka loves to play with. A reliable 3&D dude that can also get his own shot up. He is almost automatic from mid range and corner 3's. I'm not sure why would Lakers ever want to trade him. Lively has been good with Luka but he's becoming very injury prone like AD. It's hard to trust his health these days.

Rui is averaging 16ppg on 58/52/75 splits :o And in the Spurs matchup, he actually defended Wemby very well.
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Re: Mavs need to cut losses, trade AD and Kyrie and embrace the tank 

Post#62 » by Liver_Pooty » Tue Nov 11, 2025 9:34 pm

Hope they do tank/trade everyone and rebuild. Charlotte owns their 2027 first rounder (top 2 protected)
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Re: Mavs need to cut losses, trade AD and Kyrie and embrace the tank 

Post#63 » by Lalouie » Tue Nov 11, 2025 9:38 pm

firing nico gives the mavs an out to abandon this "master plan"

i would cash out on ad instead of waiting and watching and prove to the rest of the league he is a liability. but that's just me. the mavs cannot abandon flagg to fend for himself

what started out as a great ADDITION now becomes a rookie all by himself

they will keep ad and kyrie
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Re: Mavs need to cut losses, trade AD and Kyrie and embrace the tank 

Post#64 » by ryguy613 » Tue Nov 11, 2025 9:40 pm

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Optms wrote:Lively for Rui checks out. Lakers will toss in some 2nds as well so the Mavs can stockpile picks. Win win for both sides if this is the route Mavs are choosing to go. Time to embrace the tank.


I like Lively but for the Lakers I think recourses need to be used elsewhere. They already have a serviceable center rotation with Ayton/Hayes. They need an athletic wing more than anything. A plug and play guy who can shoot and guard at a decent clip. Easier said than done, i know, but thats where the efforts need to be put as far as trades are concerned. Rui is probably gonna be a key trade piece. Gotta use him wisely


I'm not sure Rui is ever going to be traded just like that. He's exactly what Luka loves to play with. A reliable 3&D dude that can also get his own shot up. He is almost automatic from mid range and corner 3's. I'm not sure why would Lakers ever want to trade him. Lively has been good with Luka but he's becoming very injury prone like AD. It's hard to trust his health these days.

Rui is averaging 16ppg on 58/52/75 splits :o And in the Spurs matchup, he actually defended Wemby very well.


The problem with Rui's defense is he's an awkward fit. As you mentioned he's a pretty capable defender at the 5, for someone who is 6'8, but they dont absolutely need a versatile defender for that. They have bigs who can match up. The problem is hes a below average defender at the 3, and they desperately need someone on the wing who can guard 3's and 2's. Rui really cant do that consistently so I dont think its accurate to call him a true 3&D. At best his defense is neutral, but probably a slight net negative given their needs.

Dont get me wrong, I like Rui, and I wanna keep him on the team but the reality is they need a defensive wing. they may need Rui to get that done.
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Re: Mavs need to cut losses, trade AD and Kyrie and embrace the tank 

Post#65 » by Doranku » Tue Nov 11, 2025 9:50 pm

Sigh. This is why the Luka trade will always be bittersweet. It may very well have ended Kyrie's career. :(
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Re: Mavs need to cut losses, trade AD and Kyrie and embrace the tank 

Post#66 » by tamaraw08 » Tue Nov 11, 2025 10:12 pm

Optms wrote:Lively for Rui checks out. Lakers will toss in some 2nds as well so the Mavs can stockpile picks. Win win for both sides if this is the route Mavs are choosing to go. Time to embrace the tank.


I want to know who is that fall guy who has the nerve to trade their young very promising center to the Lakers again. :D
Might as well trade PJ Washington for Gabe Vincent too. :lol:
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Re: Mavs need to cut losses, trade AD and Kyrie and embrace the tank 

Post#67 » by Jadoogar » Tue Nov 11, 2025 10:13 pm

i agree with what most of have said. THis is the only year they have their own pick, they can't afford to tank now. They will likely sit AD and Kyrie for longer than needed and then come back "refreshed" next year. Although expecting Kyrie and AD to be healthy at their age next year is bordering on delusion.
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Re: Mavs need to cut losses, trade AD and Kyrie and embrace the tank 

Post#68 » by Big_Aristotle » Tue Nov 11, 2025 10:39 pm

I would hope that Kyrie gets back on the floor before the trade deadline and AD gets somewhat healthy on a stretch to see what this team can do before blowing it up. You can trade them at the deadline or in the offseason if it really doesn't work.
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Re: Mavs need to cut losses, trade AD and Kyrie and embrace the tank 

Post#69 » by YoungJazz » Tue Nov 11, 2025 10:43 pm

My team is in a rebuild, so I don’t want to add another team to the tank. But it’s probably the right thing to do for the fans…
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Re: Mavs need to cut losses, trade AD and Kyrie and embrace the tank 

Post#70 » by Exp0sed » Tue Nov 11, 2025 10:50 pm

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Exp0sed wrote:Unless they do the unthinkable and trade them for Frps in this upcoming draft

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edit. Read it wrong. Who would do that?


Also, wouldn't playoff teams trade for them? Thus, those wouldn't end up being lottery picks anyway.


some of the interested playoff teams, have picks not of their own..to trade

there are also seperate deals a team like that can make, to aqcuire the pick required to make a trade, from a 3rd team
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Re: Mavs need to cut losses, trade AD and Kyrie and embrace the tank 

Post#71 » by meekrab » Tue Nov 11, 2025 10:54 pm

maverick_41 wrote:Free Klay.
Show some mercy.

Every tank needs a commanding officer! :usa:
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Re: Mavs need to cut losses, trade AD and Kyrie and embrace the tank 

Post#72 » by Exp0sed » Tue Nov 11, 2025 11:04 pm

AD will never get a fair shake anyway in Dallas, from fans or the media. he'll be always be the dude Nico traded Luka for

no1 can ever see AD in a Dallas uniform without having Luka pop into his head..

the tragic and most outrageously asinine trade in NBA history, there's no coming back from that. for the Dallas Mavs brand as well, they have to tear it down,imo. practically and spiritually, otherwise they might have the Slovenian curse on their heads for 50 years lol
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Re: Mavs need to cut losses, trade AD and Kyrie and embrace the tank 

Post#73 » by BigGargamel » Tue Nov 11, 2025 11:52 pm

tamaraw08 wrote:
Optms wrote:Lively for Rui checks out. Lakers will toss in some 2nds as well so the Mavs can stockpile picks. Win win for both sides if this is the route Mavs are choosing to go. Time to embrace the tank.


I want to know who is that fall guy who has the nerve to trade their young very promising center to the Lakers again. :D
Might as well trade PJ Washington for Gabe Vincent too. :lol:


It doesn't matter what players involved, if the Mavs trade with the Lakers again they are gong to lose every last of their remaining fans. :lol: Those two teams might as well remove each other from the group chat.
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Re: Mavs need to cut losses, trade AD and Kyrie and embrace the tank 

Post#74 » by Biff » Wed Nov 12, 2025 12:09 am

Unfortunately neither player is going to return much. AD has been unable to stay on the court and Kyrie is 33 and coming off an major injury. Nobody is giving Dallas much of anything for those 2. Feel so bad for Mavs fans and Flagg. Flagg is one of the best American prospects of the last 10 years and dude went to the absolute worst destination possible. The Mavs are in an even worse spot than my Suns, we at least have SOME assets. Booker would return significantly more than either AD or Kyrie at this stage and Green and Brooks would both return some nice pieces.
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Re: Mavs need to cut losses, trade AD and Kyrie and embrace the tank 

Post#75 » by Lockdown504090 » Wed Nov 12, 2025 1:58 am

wco81 wrote:You would think the Mavs would realize that the last thing they need to do is to send more talent to the Lakers, at least so soon after giving them Luka.

But maybe Silver wants to troll every NBA fan who isn't a Lakers fan -- "yeah I'm rigging it for them, WTF are you going to do about it?"

Blatant corruption seems to be the in thing now, as people take their cue from our fearless leader.

AD looks pretty out of shape, they should just trade him to the lakers. :banghead:
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Re: Mavs need to cut losses, trade AD and Kyrie and embrace the tank 

Post#76 » by Black Jack » Wed Nov 12, 2025 2:14 am

Send AD to SF he may be able to muster another good playoff run and let Curry hve a shot at another title.

Warriors have some good assets to send to the Mavs.
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Re: Mavs need to cut losses, trade AD and Kyrie and embrace the tank 

Post#77 » by HMFFL » Wed Nov 12, 2025 2:41 am

Cooper Flagg's development is key.
I believe Kyrie can stay and he will be benefical.
AD on the other hand is overrated, not as impactful as some people think, and I wanted him traded the moment he was acquired.
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Re: Mavs need to cut losses, trade AD and Kyrie and embrace the tank 

Post#78 » by HMFFL » Wed Nov 12, 2025 2:46 am

Exp0sed wrote:AD will never get a fair shake anyway in Dallas, from fans or the media. he'll be always be the dude Nico traded Luka for

no1 can ever see AD in a Dallas uniform without having Luka pop into his head..

the tragic and most outrageously asinine trade in NBA history, there's no coming back from that. for the Dallas Mavs brand as well, they have to tear it down,imo. practically and spiritually, otherwise they might have the Slovenian curse on their heads for 50 years lol
It's difficult or a waste of time for me to give Anthony Davis a fair shot. I already knew what I acquiring since I have watched his entire career. Overrated player! His value has certainly not increased since the Lakers traded him.

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