Has the Talent Level on NBA teams Dropped Off?

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Post#41 » by KobeFan » Mon Jun 2, 2008 6:01 am

HarlemHeat37 wrote:I know Bynum is good and all..but let's wait to see how he plays after his injury before we anoint him as the next Kareem..

Gasol and Odom aren't anything special..

it's basically Kobe with other good players..there are plenty of teams all-time that **** on those 4 combined..


I agree; major knee problems can stunt development/potential in a heart beat.

I should've qualified my original post with: If Bynum returns healthy.

Bryant isn't 30 yet, and is considered one of the best active players in the league.

Gasol and Odom are nothing special? Both rank amongst the best at their respective positions, are still fairly young, and play in a system that highly compliments their skill set.

Add the legendary Phil Jackson, and a deep/talented bench; and you're looking at a team prepped to make history next season.
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Post#42 » by TommyTheCat » Mon Jun 2, 2008 6:23 am

feedthebuddha wrote:If your question is has the level of talent dropped off since say 2000, I would say no. But if the question is has it dropped since the 80's, I would say without out a doubt. Expansion has diluted the talent level, even with the influx of foreign players. You take some of those teams from the 80's and they destroy the competition today. Teams like the Lakers, Celtics, Pistons, Bulls, Trailblazers, heck even some of the Cavs and Bucks teams from then were amazingly deep.


no doubt. not a drop off from 2000 (i'd even go back to early/mid 90s) but a big dropoff from the 80s.
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Post#43 » by farzi » Mon Jun 2, 2008 7:01 am

Patterns wrote:No drop off. You just miss some of the players.

If you count Bynum, the Lakers would probably be the most talented team ever.


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Post#44 » by shawngoat23 » Tue Jun 3, 2008 12:12 am

Patterns wrote:If you count Bynum, the Lakers would probably be the most talented team ever.


Please.
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Post#45 » by shawngoat23 » Tue Jun 3, 2008 12:15 am

ubernathan wrote:The talent level is the same, but the expansion teams dilute it.


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Post#46 » by boogydown » Tue Jun 3, 2008 1:54 am

Patterns wrote:No drop off. You just miss some of the players.

If you count Bynum, the Lakers would probably be the most talented team ever.

The Celtics have KG, Ray, Pierce. When was that last time you saw 3 previous franchise players together?

The Suns was loaded but couldn't get through SA.

The Mavs were loaded too but had a bad system.

The Hornets are also extremely talented.

The Pistons? All 5 of their starters are talented.

No drop off. Just different names.



PG Harper > PG Fisher
SG Jordan > SG Bryant
SF Pippen > SF Odom
PF Rodman < PF Gasol
C Longley < C Byrum

Kerr, Kukoc, Etc. Bulls had the better bench
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Post#47 » by Mr. Fundamental » Tue Jun 3, 2008 3:22 am

I would take Rodman over Gasol any day of the week and the weekends, defense and rebounding greatly out shadows offensive contributions, in terms of winning. With prime Rodman Lakers would be godly.
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Post#48 » by Promezclan » Tue Jun 3, 2008 6:46 am

Harper > Fisher
Jordan > Kobe
Kukoc > Odom
Pippen > Gasol
Rodman > Bynum
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Post#49 » by walchy » Tue Jun 3, 2008 7:22 am

boogydown wrote:PG Harper > PG Fisher
SG Jordan > SG Bryant
SF Pippen > SF Odom
PF Rodman < PF Gasol
C Longley < C Byrum

Kerr, Kukoc, Etc. Bulls had the better bench



are you serious? Pau is a good player, but you'll have to search for eons to find someone who plays wiht as much intensity as rodman.

And dont tell me this stuff about garnett, yeah hes intence, no doubt about that, but rodman is just insane (on and off the court)

the guy played with such immence energy, not to mention the fact that he was one of the most tenacious defenders and rebounders in the history of the game.
you cannot say Pau Gasol is better than him, no way no how
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Post#50 » by Optimus_Steel » Tue Jun 3, 2008 3:22 pm

LOL man that are delusional people on RealGM.
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Post#51 » by TheKingNbooby » Tue Jun 3, 2008 8:23 pm

KobeFan wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



I agree; major knee problems can stunt development/potential in a heart beat.

I should've qualified my original post with: If Bynum returns healthy.

Bryant isn't 30 yet, and is considered one of the best active players in the league.

Gasol and Odom are nothing special? Both rank amongst the best at their respective positions, are still fairly young, and play in a system that highly compliments their skill set.

Add the legendary Phil Jackson, and a deep/talented bench; and you're looking at a team prepped to make history next season.


Odom is no where near a top SF hes in the middle of the pack

Lebron, Pierce, Turkoglu, Lewis, Melo, Prince, Gerald Wallace ,Josh Howard, Durant, Artest, richard Jefferson Maggette, and Stephen Jackson are all better then Odom.

Gasol is probaly the 5th best center in the leage, which is still good.
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Post#52 » by _BBIB_ » Wed Jun 4, 2008 1:42 am

Lakers are better with Odom coming off bench if Bynum comes back.

Odom is an average 3.
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Post#53 » by shobe_81 » Wed Jun 4, 2008 3:16 am

Wow, here is the thread title: Has the Talent Level on NBA teams Dropped Off?

This thread took a 180 turn and went completely toward This Lakers team vs All Time Teams!

Are u people stupid?

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