The Nets - What are they?

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Re: The Nets - What are they? 

Post#101 » by BrooklynNetsFan » Wed Dec 19, 2018 11:45 pm

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Julius randle is the absolute worst fit in the league for the nets. that would be a horrific signing.

Exaggerate much!!? The Nets have TWO players over 6'10"...why the hell wouldn't they need another big man that can bang?


Because its 2018 not 1988. we dont need big guys who can bang. we need wings who can create their own offense.

Newsflash...Randle is probably better than every player on this team. They need as much talent as they can get...especially a skilled young big man. And The Nets have enough F'N wings...please.
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Re: The Nets - What are they? 

Post#102 » by dc » Wed Dec 19, 2018 11:50 pm

Really rooting for the Nets to turn it around in the coming years.

I just hope they aren't screwing themselves out of a high pick with all the winning they're doing. They need talent and they're finally getting their own pick.

You can really start judging Marks this summer when he finally gets his own pick. I mean, he's done a great job so far but there's only so far you can get with the scrapheap of assets he's had to work with. You need legit assets to build a real team (not just a group of hard playing scrappers/grinders).
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The Nets - What are they? 

Post#103 » by Paradise » Thu Dec 20, 2018 12:18 am

Jeffrey wrote:In the end, the Nets will need a star player to take the next step.. we all know that. The hard part is to find a star player that is willing to sign with the Nets and play their brand of ball.

What would be so hard with playing in NYC, Spurs like team oriented culture with offensive X/O principles of Houston/GS? It doesn’t sound hard for free agents to join the former dysfunctional clippers.

We were in the running for Butler until we decided not to pursue him any longer. Pretty sure he has sour grapes about it too.
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Re: The Nets - What are they? 

Post#104 » by Prokorov » Thu Dec 20, 2018 5:23 am

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BrooklynNetsFan wrote:Exaggerate much!!? The Nets have TWO players over 6'10"...why the hell wouldn't they need another big man that can bang?


Because its 2018 not 1988. we dont need big guys who can bang. we need wings who can create their own offense.

Newsflash...Randle is probably better than every player on this team. They need as much talent as they can get...especially a skilled young big man. And The Nets have enough F'N wings...please.


thankfully you are not GM of the nets, that move would set us back to the billy king days. Randle being better then a nets team that has little talent doesnt say much. it still doesnt mean you shell out big bucks for a guy who is a horrible fit for what you want to do on the court. especially when we have Allen on a rookie contract.

We dont have enough wings. we dont have a single starting wing who can consistently create his own offense. dudley? RHJ? Carroll?

we need that SF who can create offense.

Nets wouldnt sign randle if he offered to play for free. nor should they
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Re: The Nets - What are they? 

Post#105 » by Prokorov » Thu Dec 20, 2018 5:26 am

7 wins in a row. inching back to .500 although a tough 8 days coming up with Indy and Milwaukee and the hornets twice. could be right back to 10 under who knows.
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Re: The Nets - What are they? 

Post#106 » by gigantes » Thu Dec 20, 2018 6:18 am

dc wrote:Really rooting for the Nets to turn it around in the coming years.

I just hope they aren't screwing themselves out of a high pick with all the winning they're doing. They need talent and they're finally getting their own pick.

You can really start judging Marks this summer when he finally gets his own pick. I mean, he's done a great job so far but there's only so far you can get with the scrapheap of assets he's had to work with. You need legit assets to build a real team (not just a group of hard playing scrappers/grinders).

Seems like a strange thing to wait for.

In reality, I don't see any reason you can't judge Marks right now and recognise that he's done a phenomenal job with everything, including going out and getting decent picks and then turning them in to great choices ala people like Caris LeVert, Jarrett Allen, and Rodi Kurucs.

Marks probably won't have many lottery picks to play with, but his gift for finding talent and then having his development team(s) improve that talent offsets a lot of that IMO. The roster is in fact full of such players, including people like Joe Harris and Spencer Dinwiddie, who pretty much came out of nowhere.

The team has also become a sought-after destination by players around the league, again helping with the chronic shortage of lottery picks. So, no... I certainly don't think you need to wait for this summer in order to judge Marks (and his excellent staff).
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Re: The Nets - What are they? 

Post#107 » by TheNetsFan » Thu Dec 20, 2018 9:05 am

The likely range for cap space is probably about $43-50mil. I think all older vets get renounced, Crabbe gets dumped if needed, and the Denver 1st is either used to dump Crabbe or used on a draft and stash player. DLo will be retained for a deal starting around $17-18 mil and escalating. RHJ will likely be a QO guy or renounced. Nets will try to convince Davis or Carroll to return on the Room exception.

They should be attractive for the right FA, because they have the right mix of youth, potential, discipline and work ethic. The current core is young with room to grow. They make more sense for younger FAs (Kawhi/Harris) than an older one like KD. Put Kawhi on the team, and it's at worst a top 4 team in the east overnight with room to improve every year just via development.
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Re: The Nets - What are they? 

Post#108 » by Roddy B for 3 » Thu Dec 20, 2018 9:20 am

Prokorov wrote:
BrooklynNetsFan wrote:
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Because its 2018 not 1988. we dont need big guys who can bang. we need wings who can create their own offense.

Newsflash...Randle is probably better than every player on this team. They need as much talent as they can get...especially a skilled young big man. And The Nets have enough F'N wings...please.


thankfully you are not GM of the nets, that move would set us back to the billy king days. Randle being better then a nets team that has little talent doesnt say much. it still doesnt mean you shell out big bucks for a guy who is a horrible fit for what you want to do on the court. especially when we have Allen on a rookie contract.

We dont have enough wings. we dont have a single starting wing who can consistently create his own offense. dudley? RHJ? Carroll?

we need that SF who can create offense.

Nets wouldnt sign randle if he offered to play for free. nor should they


Randle can create his own offesnse. If Randle had a 3point shot and or a pull up and he would have 100% of an offesive stars ability + when conditioned and engaged with good defensders around him he can be a positive on defense too.
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Re: The Nets - What are they? 

Post#109 » by BrooklynNetsFan » Thu Dec 20, 2018 11:23 am

Roddy B for 3 wrote:
Prokorov wrote:
BrooklynNetsFan wrote:Newsflash...Randle is probably better than every player on this team. They need as much talent as they can get...especially a skilled young big man. And The Nets have enough F'N wings...please.


thankfully you are not GM of the nets, that move would set us back to the billy king days. Randle being better then a nets team that has little talent doesnt say much. it still doesnt mean you shell out big bucks for a guy who is a horrible fit for what you want to do on the court. especially when we have Allen on a rookie contract.

We dont have enough wings. we dont have a single starting wing who can consistently create his own offense. dudley? RHJ? Carroll?

we need that SF who can create offense.

Nets wouldnt sign randle if he offered to play for free. nor should they


Randle can create his own offesnse. If Randle had a 3point shot and or a pull up and he would have 100% of an offesive stars ability + when conditioned and engaged with good defensders around him he can be a positive on defense too.

Exactly! I have no idea what he's talking about. And I'm sure Randle can be signed for less than $16 Mil. He would a excellent pick up and he's only 24.
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Re: The Nets - What are they? 

Post#110 » by BrooklynNetsFan » Thu Dec 20, 2018 11:49 am

Prokorov wrote:
BrooklynNetsFan wrote:
Prokorov wrote:
Because its 2018 not 1988. we dont need big guys who can bang. we need wings who can create their own offense.

Newsflash...Randle is probably better than every player on this team. They need as much talent as they can get...especially a skilled young big man. And The Nets have enough F'N wings...please.


thankfully you are not GM of the nets, that move would set us back to the billy king days. Randle being better then a nets team that has little talent doesnt say much. it still doesnt mean you shell out big bucks for a guy who is a horrible fit for what you want to do on the court. especially when we have Allen on a rookie contract.

We dont have enough wings. we dont have a single starting wing who can consistently create his own offense. dudley? RHJ? Carroll?

we need that SF who can create offense.

Nets wouldnt sign randle if he offered to play for free. nor should they

Thankfully YOU are not the GM... because you are delusional as all hell. I asked you earlier have you even seen the Pelicans play this year and didn't get a response. I'm pretty sure you haven't since you seem to dismiss Randle so easily. I'm not going back and forth with you about hypotheticals. Why don't you at least watch some one play before you judge what they can do...you come off very ignorant.
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Re: The Nets - What are they? 

Post#111 » by r0drig0lac » Thu Dec 20, 2018 2:14 pm

BrooklynNetsFan wrote:
Prokorov wrote:
BrooklynNetsFan wrote:Newsflash...Randle is probably better than every player on this team. They need as much talent as they can get...especially a skilled young big man. And The Nets have enough F'N wings...please.


thankfully you are not GM of the nets, that move would set us back to the billy king days. Randle being better then a nets team that has little talent doesnt say much. it still doesnt mean you shell out big bucks for a guy who is a horrible fit for what you want to do on the court. especially when we have Allen on a rookie contract.

We dont have enough wings. we dont have a single starting wing who can consistently create his own offense. dudley? RHJ? Carroll?

we need that SF who can create offense.

Nets wouldnt sign randle if he offered to play for free. nor should they

Thankfully YOU are not the GM... because you are delusional as all hell. I asked you earlier have you even seen the Pelicans play this year and didn't get a response. I'm pretty sure you haven't since you seem to dismiss Randle so easily. I'm not going back and forth with you about hypotheticals. Why don't you at least watch some one play before you judge what they can do...you come off very ignorant.


Randle was the best Lakers player in last season (along with Ingram) and is the second best player of Pelicans, he would be a plus in any of the 30 teams
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Re: The Nets - What are they? 

Post#112 » by Prokorov » Thu Dec 20, 2018 2:58 pm

r0drig0lac wrote:
BrooklynNetsFan wrote:
Prokorov wrote:
thankfully you are not GM of the nets, that move would set us back to the billy king days. Randle being better then a nets team that has little talent doesnt say much. it still doesnt mean you shell out big bucks for a guy who is a horrible fit for what you want to do on the court. especially when we have Allen on a rookie contract.

We dont have enough wings. we dont have a single starting wing who can consistently create his own offense. dudley? RHJ? Carroll?

we need that SF who can create offense.

Nets wouldnt sign randle if he offered to play for free. nor should they

Thankfully YOU are not the GM... because you are delusional as all hell. I asked you earlier have you even seen the Pelicans play this year and didn't get a response. I'm pretty sure you haven't since you seem to dismiss Randle so easily. I'm not going back and forth with you about hypotheticals. Why don't you at least watch some one play before you judge what they can do...you come off very ignorant.


Randle was the best Lakers player in last season (along with Ingram) and is the second best player of Pelicans, he would be a plus in any of the 30 teams


He would be one of if not our most talented player. he is still a terrible fit and the nets would be unwise to invest in him. he doesnt fit our mold and we have younger/cheaper players who fit our team and what we do much better.
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Re: The Nets - What are they? 

Post#113 » by Prokorov » Thu Dec 20, 2018 3:01 pm

BrooklynNetsFan wrote:
Prokorov wrote:
BrooklynNetsFan wrote:Newsflash...Randle is probably better than every player on this team. They need as much talent as they can get...especially a skilled young big man. And The Nets have enough F'N wings...please.


thankfully you are not GM of the nets, that move would set us back to the billy king days. Randle being better then a nets team that has little talent doesnt say much. it still doesnt mean you shell out big bucks for a guy who is a horrible fit for what you want to do on the court. especially when we have Allen on a rookie contract.

We dont have enough wings. we dont have a single starting wing who can consistently create his own offense. dudley? RHJ? Carroll?

we need that SF who can create offense.

Nets wouldnt sign randle if he offered to play for free. nor should they

Thankfully YOU are not the GM... because you are delusional as all hell. I asked you earlier have you even seen the Pelicans play this year and didn't get a response. I'm pretty sure you haven't since you seem to dismiss Randle so easily. I'm not going back and forth with you about hypotheticals. Why don't you at least watch some one play before you judge what they can do...you come off very ignorant.


Of course ive seen them play. and ive seen him play on the lakers. he is a terrible fit. its not a talent issue its a fit issue and a resource allocation issue. would be unwise to invest cap in him when we have younger cheaper guys who are a great fit for that spot.

Dont get your panties in a bunch because a guy you like is a bad fit for the team. same with Lopez, who you defended to the death. There is a reason you got laughed off the nets board, for all of your insane takes and crazy homer takes. Netsdaily is the place to be a delusional homer net fan, not here.
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Re: The Nets - What are they? 

Post#114 » by Prokorov » Thu Dec 20, 2018 3:04 pm

BrooklynNetsFan wrote:
Roddy B for 3 wrote:
Prokorov wrote:
thankfully you are not GM of the nets, that move would set us back to the billy king days. Randle being better then a nets team that has little talent doesnt say much. it still doesnt mean you shell out big bucks for a guy who is a horrible fit for what you want to do on the court. especially when we have Allen on a rookie contract.

We dont have enough wings. we dont have a single starting wing who can consistently create his own offense. dudley? RHJ? Carroll?

we need that SF who can create offense.

Nets wouldnt sign randle if he offered to play for free. nor should they


Randle can create his own offesnse. If Randle had a 3point shot and or a pull up and he would have 100% of an offesive stars ability + when conditioned and engaged with good defensders around him he can be a positive on defense too.

Exactly! I have no idea what he's talking about. And I'm sure Randle can be signed for less than $16 Mil. He would a excellent pick up and he's only 24.


Randle isnt a SF, cant consistently gaurd smalls and doesnt have the 3 point range to play F in the nets system. its a terrible fit which is why we wont even consider offering him a contract.

the nets want to play big at the 1-2 and small at the 3-4 and be interchangable 1 through 4 with an athletic center who can finish on rolls and block shots. they have allen for that. they arent paying Randel 15-20 million to be his backup, and randle would be a terrible fit for us at forward

0.0% chance they make him an offer
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Re: The Nets - What are they? 

Post#115 » by DeRoma » Thu Dec 20, 2018 3:46 pm

TheNetsFan wrote:The likely range for cap space is probably about $43-50mil. I think all older vets get renounced, Crabbe gets dumped if needed, and the Denver 1st is either used to dump Crabbe or used on a draft and stash player. DLo will be retained for a deal starting around $17-18 mil and escalating. RHJ will likely be a QO guy or renounced. Nets will try to convince Davis or Carroll to return on the Room exception.

They should be attractive for the right FA, because they have the right mix of youth, potential, discipline and work ethic. The current core is young with room to grow. They make more sense for younger FAs (Kawhi/Harris) than an older one like KD. Put Kawhi on the team, and it's at worst a top 4 team in the east overnight with room to improve every year just via development.


It's a lot more closer around 55-60 with exception renounce, 6 million for the rookie contracts, 2.5 renouncing graham and shabazz.
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Re: The Nets - What are they? 

Post#116 » by bulliedog8 » Thu Dec 20, 2018 3:49 pm

Why do people say Nets need to get a star when they have one on their team in Dangelo? Dude is legit and will be big time. They need to retain him
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Re: The Nets - What are they? 

Post#117 » by nbafan38 » Thu Dec 20, 2018 4:15 pm

bulliedog8 wrote:Why do people say Nets need to get a star when they have one on their team in Dangelo? Dude is legit and will be big time. They need to retain him


They may have 2 depending on how Levert comes back from injury but he was playing like a star.

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