Who will have a Brighter Future Anthony Edwards or Tyrese Maxey?

[FNQ]

I think OPs comparison is a lot closer than a lot of you are acting

It's just the nature of the NBA and how star-driven everything is now, I think. You're always going to take someone who has a 25% chance of becoming Dwyane Wade over someone who has a 75% chance of becoming Mike Conley.

(By the way, I just used these numbers/players as an example. I have no interest arguing Edwards chances of becoming Dwyane Wade or if Conley is the right comparison for Maxey. Haha.)

Totally get you

I've always been of the mind that a great role player >>> an average #1 option, even though the #1 option is likely more talented. Give me the guy who can succeed in his role. Now if you are searching for a #1, and most teams are, I get that they'd prefer to take the odds of the higher ceiling guy. But the outright scoffing at Maxey, who's thriving, that he can't be a top option and Edwards can simply due to athleticism and pedigree.. I dont buy it at all

Lets say the numbers stay flat all season, Maxey is a 3rd banana with a 60+ TS, Edwards is a top 2 guy with a 51.5% TS.. I'd almost definitely rather have Maxey at that point, even if my team was rebuilding. He likely makes my team better, thus makes it more appealing place to be, than having a guy whos a poor #1. I dont wish the Monta Ellis experience on any entire fanbase, its the worst

[bebopdeluxe]

This really a question?

Ummm...yes. Yes it is a question.

Maxey:

17.8 ppg/3.8 rbg/4.4 apg
shooting splits - 52/43/84
eFG - 57.7%
PER - 18.4
WS - 1.7
ast/to ratio - 3.33 to 1

Edwards:
22.5/6.5/3.5
shooting splits - 42/34/75
eFG - 49.5%
PER - 15.6
WS - 0.6
ast/to ratio - 0.98 to 1

So, Maxey is the FAR better shooter and FAR more efficient scorer, with a significantly higher PER and WS. He is also extremely good with the ball, with an ast/to ratio of 3.33 to 1 - which is ridiculous given he had (before last night) played the 5th most total minutes of ANY NBA player this season, and playing a new position to boot. Edwards has good "counting" stats, but is an inefficent scorer with an ast/to ratio of less than 1.

So...yes - this IS a question.

[Appostis]

This really a question?

Ummm...yes. Yes it is a question.

Maxey:

17.8 ppg/3.8 rbg/4.4 apg
shooting splits - 52/43/84
eFG - 57.7%
PER - 18.4
WS - 1.7
ast/to ratio - 3.33 to 1

Edwards:
22.5/6.5/3.5
shooting splits - 42/34/75
eFG - 49.5%
PER - 15.6
WS - 0.6
ast/to ratio - 0.98 to 1

So, Maxey is the FAR better shooter and FAR more efficient scorer, with a significantly higher PER and WS. He is also extremely good with the ball, with an ast/to ratio of 3.33 to 1 - which is ridiculous given he had (before last night) played the 5th most total minutes of ANY NBA player this season, and playing a new position to boot. Edwards has good "counting" stats, but is an inefficent scorer with an ast/to ratio of less than 1.

So...yes - this IS a question.

Sample ***king siZe. So no..

[FNQ]

This really a question?

Ummm...yes. Yes it is a question.

Maxey:

17.8 ppg/3.8 rbg/4.4 apg
shooting splits - 52/43/84
eFG - 57.7%
PER - 18.4
WS - 1.7
ast/to ratio - 3.33 to 1

Edwards:
22.5/6.5/3.5
shooting splits - 42/34/75
eFG - 49.5%
PER - 15.6
WS - 0.6
ast/to ratio - 0.98 to 1

So, Maxey is the FAR better shooter and FAR more efficient scorer, with a significantly higher PER and WS. He is also extremely good with the ball, with an ast/to ratio of 3.33 to 1 - which is ridiculous given he had (before last night) played the 5th most total minutes of ANY NBA player this season, and playing a new position to boot. Edwards has good "counting" stats, but is an inefficent scorer with an ast/to ratio of less than 1.

So...yes - this IS a question.

Sample ***king siZe. So no..

Edwards has played 87 games (15 this year), Maxey has played 71 (16 this yr)

So 20% of their career numbers roughly, with that entire 20% being a new season, seems like a fine sample size for comparison. If you dont want to have the conversation, then don't. But the conversation of a great player whos limited vs. a limitless potential player who's not there yet, if at all, remains a good conversation with or without your approval

[bebopdeluxe]

Ummm...yes. Yes it is a question.

Maxey:

17.8 ppg/3.8 rbg/4.4 apg
shooting splits - 52/43/84
eFG - 57.7%
PER - 18.4
WS - 1.7
ast/to ratio - 3.33 to 1

Edwards:
22.5/6.5/3.5
shooting splits - 42/34/75
eFG - 49.5%
PER - 15.6
WS - 0.6
ast/to ratio - 0.98 to 1

So, Maxey is the FAR better shooter and FAR more efficient scorer, with a significantly higher PER and WS. He is also extremely good with the ball, with an ast/to ratio of 3.33 to 1 - which is ridiculous given he had (before last night) played the 5th most total minutes of ANY NBA player this season, and playing a new position to boot. Edwards has good "counting" stats, but is an inefficent scorer with an ast/to ratio of less than 1.

So...yes - this IS a question.

Sample ***king siZe. So no..

Edwards has played 87 games (15 this year), Maxey has played 71 (16 this yr)

So 20% of their career numbers roughly, with that entire 20% being a new season, seems like a fine sample size for comparison. If you dont want to have the conversation, then don't. But the conversation of a great player whos limited vs. a limitless potential player who's not there yet, if at all, remains a good conversation with or without your approval

For realz. 2nd season for both players. Roughly the same amount of starts this season - would seem pretty apples-to-apples to me.

When you factor in that Maxey is learning the hardest position in NBA basketball - PG - on the job, and playing a ridiculous amount of minutes to boot, his offensive efficiency and ability to protect the basketball versus Edwards is even more notable.

And - again - I am not necessarily saying that Maxey is better or more valuable than Edwards. My only point is those who think it is ridiculous to compare the two players - at least on how they are playing this season - are being absurd.

[LBJKB24MJ23]

so after carefully listening to the OP talk about nothing, I have to go with Edwards.

[Hussien Fatal]

so after carefully listening to the OP talk about nothing, I have to go with Edwards.

Lol I have chimed in a couple times with valuable information to this post, so because you won’t read I’ll just say some of the same things again. Maxey has the MUCH better advanced statistics. He also only turns the ball over 1 time per game compared to almost 4 turnovers for Edwards.

Maxey has an assist to turnover ratio of 3.33 to 1 which is frankly amazing for a 2nd year player who hasn’t played much point guard. Maxey also has a better 3pt% (43%) than Edwards FG%(42%). Edwards has an advantage on counting stats but that’s it. Edwards is very inefficient taking 20 shots to score just 22.5ppg. I have said these things so stop thinking I haven’t added anything to this discussion because you failed to read. Don’t be so simple minded.

[Hussien Fatal]

Sample ***king siZe. So no..

Edwards has played 87 games (15 this year), Maxey has played 71 (16 this yr)

So 20% of their career numbers roughly, with that entire 20% being a new season, seems like a fine sample size for comparison. If you dont want to have the conversation, then don't. But the conversation of a great player whos limited vs. a limitless potential player who's not there yet, if at all, remains a good conversation with or without your approval

For realz. 2nd season for both players. Roughly the same amount of starts this season - would seem pretty apples-to-apples to me.

When you factor in that Maxey is learning the hardest position in NBA basketball - PG - on the job, and playing a ridiculous amount of minutes to boot, his offensive efficiency and ability to protect the basketball versus Edwards is even more notable.

And - again - I am not necessarily saying that Maxey is better or more valuable than Edwards. My only point is those who think it is ridiculous to compare the two players - at least on how they are playing this season - are being absurd.

You are actually one of the smart ones who look past the counting stats and see the truth in the advanced stats. Maxey is just so much more efficient that it makes this a good comparison, the casuals will dismiss Tyrese but those that understand advanced numbers knows that this is a good comparison.

[LBJKB24MJ23]

so after carefully listening to the OP talk about nothing, I have to go with Edwards.

Lol I have chimed in a couple times with valuable information to this post, so because you won’t read I’ll just say some of the same things again. Maxey has the MUCH better advanced statistics. He also only turns the ball over 1 time per game compared to almost 4 turnovers for Edwards.

Maxey has an assist to turnover ratio of 3.33 to 1 which is frankly amazing for a 2nd year player who hasn’t played much point guard. Maxey also has a better 3pt% (43%) than Edwards FG%(42%). Edwards has an advantage on counting stats but that’s it. Edwards is very inefficient taking 20 shots to score just 22.5ppg. I have said these things so stop thinking I haven’t added anything to this discussion because you failed to read. Don’t be so simple minded.

After some more extrapolation of what you said, I still have to say Edwards is the superior player.

[bebopdeluxe]

so after carefully listening to the OP talk about nothing, I have to go with Edwards.

Lol I have chimed in a couple times with valuable information to this post, so because you won’t read I’ll just say some of the same things again. Maxey has the MUCH better advanced statistics. He also only turns the ball over 1 time per game compared to almost 4 turnovers for Edwards.

Maxey has an assist to turnover ratio of 3.33 to 1 which is frankly amazing for a 2nd year player who hasn’t played much point guard. Maxey also has a better 3pt% (43%) than Edwards FG%(42%). Edwards has an advantage on counting stats but that’s it. Edwards is very inefficient taking 20 shots to score just 22.5ppg. I have said these things so stop thinking I haven’t added anything to this discussion because you failed to read. Don’t be so simple minded.

After some more extrapolation of what you said, I still have to say Edwards is the superior player.

OK. Just curious what you are basing this on. Maxey is a materially more efficient shooter - from the field, from 3 and from the line. Edwards has more turnovers than assists - so he is nowhere near as good at taking care of the ball. Most of Maxey’s advanced stats are better as well - in some cases substantially better.

So what is your rationale? Is it that Edwards DUNKZ HAWD and POINTZZZ?

[Hussien Fatal]

so after carefully listening to the OP talk about nothing, I have to go with Edwards.

Lol I have chimed in a couple times with valuable information to this post, so because you won’t read I’ll just say some of the same things again. Maxey has the MUCH better advanced statistics. He also only turns the ball over 1 time per game compared to almost 4 turnovers for Edwards.

Maxey has an assist to turnover ratio of 3.33 to 1 which is frankly amazing for a 2nd year player who hasn’t played much point guard. Maxey also has a better 3pt% (43%) than Edwards FG%(42%). Edwards has an advantage on counting stats but that’s it. Edwards is very inefficient taking 20 shots to score just 22.5ppg. I have said these things so stop thinking I haven’t added anything to this discussion because you failed to read. Don’t be so simple minded.

After some more extrapolation of what you said, I still have to say Edwards is the superior player.

Lol based on what? You have made zero argument. Kinda ironic considering you said I added nothing to the discussion, lol now who has added nothing?

[LBJKB24MJ23]

Lol I have chimed in a couple times with valuable information to this post, so because you won’t read I’ll just say some of the same things again. Maxey has the MUCH better advanced statistics. He also only turns the ball over 1 time per game compared to almost 4 turnovers for Edwards.

Maxey has an assist to turnover ratio of 3.33 to 1 which is frankly amazing for a 2nd year player who hasn’t played much point guard. Maxey also has a better 3pt% (43%) than Edwards FG%(42%). Edwards has an advantage on counting stats but that’s it. Edwards is very inefficient taking 20 shots to score just 22.5ppg. I have said these things so stop thinking I haven’t added anything to this discussion because you failed to read. Don’t be so simple minded.

After some more extrapolation of what you said, I still have to say Edwards is the superior player.

Lol based on what? You have made zero argument. Kinda ironic considering you said I added nothing to the discussion, lol now who has added nothing?

I think you’re being simple minded here.

[Sportfan73]

Lol I have chimed in a couple times with valuable information to this post, so because you won’t read I’ll just say some of the same things again. Maxey has the MUCH better advanced statistics. He also only turns the ball over 1 time per game compared to almost 4 turnovers for Edwards.

Maxey has an assist to turnover ratio of 3.33 to 1 which is frankly amazing for a 2nd year player who hasn’t played much point guard. Maxey also has a better 3pt% (43%) than Edwards FG%(42%). Edwards has an advantage on counting stats but that’s it. Edwards is very inefficient taking 20 shots to score just 22.5ppg. I have said these things so stop thinking I haven’t added anything to this discussion because you failed to read. Don’t be so simple minded.

After some more extrapolation of what you said, I still have to say Edwards is the superior player.

Lol based on what? You have made zero argument. Kinda ironic considering you said I added nothing to the discussion, lol now who has added nothing?

You know what I think would be a good discussion/thread? Maxeys trade value alone/as the main piece of a package/ or with Ben compared to the start of the season. Like just how high has he raised it? Is the a centerpiece for a star if combined with other young players and all the firsts? Is he, Ben, Thybulle, and all the firsts and swaps now the best trade package in the league?

[Hussien Fatal]

After some more extrapolation of what you said, I still have to say Edwards is the superior player.

Lol based on what? You have made zero argument. Kinda ironic considering you said I added nothing to the discussion, lol now who has added nothing?

You know what I think would be a good discussion/thread? Maxeys trade value alone/as the main piece of a package/ or with Ben compared to the start of the season. Like just how high has he raised it? Is the a centerpiece for a star if combined with other young players and all the firsts? Is he, Ben, Thybulle, and all the firsts and swaps now the best trade package in the league?

I think he actually has a equal to higher trade value than Ben Simmons at this point. He’s about 5 years younger and he is already one of the better young guards in the NBA. His work ethic along with his age and production/efficiency makes him a more appealing trade asset at the moment especially considering Ben Baggage.

[Hussien Fatal]

Another efficient game for Tyrese 28 and 9 on 9/17fg this kid is good.

[EH15]

TMax with 6 straight games shooting 50% or better.

[Liver_Pooty]

Lol based on what? You have made zero argument. Kinda ironic considering you said I added nothing to the discussion, lol now who has added nothing?

You know what I think would be a good discussion/thread? Maxeys trade value alone/as the main piece of a package/ or with Ben compared to the start of the season. Like just how high has he raised it? Is the a centerpiece for a star if combined with other young players and all the firsts? Is he, Ben, Thybulle, and all the firsts and swaps now the best trade package in the league?

I think he actually has a equal to higher trade value than Ben Simmons at this point. He’s about 5 years younger and he is already one of the better young guards in the NBA. His work ethic along with his age and production/efficiency makes him a more appealing trade asset at the moment especially considering Ben Baggage.

Whole heartedly disagree with this. I like Maxey, a lot. But Simmons is an all nba talent. Maxey, in my opinion will never be that. Even with Simmons just absolute insane amount of baggage his trade value is more based on shere talent alone.

[Locrian]

There’s no point comparing 2 totally different type of players.
Edwards is the type of player you build a team around. Maxey is a complimentary player. 2nd option on a playoff team is probably his ceiling

[Wilfried]

Edwards is the type of player you build a team around.

Is he?

[MotownMadness]

You know what I think would be a good discussion/thread? Maxeys trade value alone/as the main piece of a package/ or with Ben compared to the start of the season. Like just how high has he raised it? Is the a centerpiece for a star if combined with other young players and all the firsts? Is he, Ben, Thybulle, and all the firsts and swaps now the best trade package in the league?

I think he actually has a equal to higher trade value than Ben Simmons at this point. He’s about 5 years younger and he is already one of the better young guards in the NBA. His work ethic along with his age and production/efficiency makes him a more appealing trade asset at the moment especially considering Ben Baggage.

Whole heartedly disagree with this. I like Maxey, a lot. But Simmons is an all nba talent. Maxey, in my opinion will never be that. Even with Simmons just absolute insane amount of baggage his trade value is more based on shere talent alone.

It would depend on the team and what type of trade packages. But as a Piston fan I would rather have the productive less risk Maxey.

No he's not the unique talent of a 6'10 athletic player but that guy comes with alot of question marks and apparently a high price tag still.