Nets Trying To Get Billups And RIP Along With Anthony

[J Smitty]

He cares more about winning than money but wants to go to the knicks... seems odd to me.

Its not to me. When are you people going to open your eyes and see that the Knicks are actually a really good team this year. Stoudemire has changed the Knicks into a winning franchise. And where else is he going to go thats going to give him a better chance of winning than NYK?

There a lot of places he could go that could give him a better chance at winning than New York. They're not even a top 10 team in this league.

I guess NY fans hyping themselves up has worked though...people actually think they're a "really good" team right now. They've had one of the easiest schedules in the league, and still lost to the Kings at home last night.

[Jetset]

He cares more about winning than money but wants to go to the knicks... seems odd to me.

Its not to me. When are you people going to open your eyes and see that the Knicks are actually a really good team this year. Stoudemire has changed the Knicks into a winning franchise. And where else is he going to go thats going to give him a better chance of winning than NYK?

There a lot of places he could go that could give him a better chance at winning than New York. They're not even a top 10 team in this league.

I guess NY fans hyping themselves up has worked though...people actually think they're a "really good" team right now. They've had one of the easiest schedules in the league, and still lost to the Kings at home last night.

I would like for you to name these places he could go and compete for a title. And I'm not a Knick fan, so if that last part was to insult me, you failed miserably.

[jeff1624]

He'd be 30 years old before the team even moves to Brooklyn. He'd be close to his mid 30s by the time they were serious contenders. He'd be close to 40 before the "Brooklyn Nets" would have any chance to rival the Knicks.

As for not just being "the next big name"; if he actually wants to win a championship, he's going to have to accept not being the only guy around. Single players do not win championships. No matter how great. (And he really isn't that great).

Seriously, stop it with the "he'll be 30 years old" BS.. The arena will be completed by the summer of 2012.

[J Smitty]

I would like for you to name these places he could go and compete for a title. And I'm not a Knick fan, so if that last part was to insult me, you failed miserably.

Wasn't an insult at you. I said Knicks fans hyping the Knicks up so much has gotten other people(like you) to believe they're actually a really good team. Reality is, they're just average.

Teams he could go to to give him a better shot at winning a championship(since that's all he supposedly cares about)? Bulls, Magic, Heat, Lakers, Spurs, Jazz, Mavs, Hornets, Celtics, Clippers, staying in Denver...to name a few.

If he cared so much about winning a title and money wasn't important(as he has said), he'd just go take the MLE somewhere and win a title next year. There are a lot of teams in a better situation, for now and the future, than the Knicks. That much is certain.

[KnickelandDime]

I would like for you to name these places he could go and compete for a title. And I'm not a Knick fan, so if that last part was to insult me, you failed miserably.

Wasn't an insult at you. I said Knicks fans hyping the Knicks up so much has gotten other people(like you) to believe they're actually a really good team. Reality is, they're just average.

Teams he could go to to give him a better shot at winning a championship(since that's all he supposedly cares about)? Bulls, Magic, Heat, Lakers, Spurs, Jazz, Mavs, Hornets, Celtics, Clippers, staying in Denver...to name a few.

If he cared so much about winning a title and money wasn't important(as he has said), he'd just go take the MLE somewhere and win a title next year. There are a lot of teams in a better situation, for now and the future, than the Knicks. That much is certain.

Everything you said is an opinion that you pass off as fact. "Reality is, they're just average." Average for what? An NBA team? Their record says otherwise. According to many analysts they're an above average team. But apparently you know more than they do right? Did Donnie Walsh kick your dog or something? What do you have against the Knicks? BTW Clippers have a better chance for a championship with Melo than the Knicks? That right there ruins your credibility.

[Jetset]

I would like for you to name these places he could go and compete for a title. And I'm not a Knick fan, so if that last part was to insult me, you failed miserably.

Wasn't an insult at you. I said Knicks fans hyping the Knicks up so much has gotten other people(like you) to believe they're actually a really good team. Reality is, they're just average.

Teams he could go to to give him a better shot at winning a championship(since that's all he supposedly cares about)? Bulls, Magic, Heat, Lakers, Spurs, Jazz, Mavs, Hornets, Celtics, Clippers, staying in Denver...to name a few.

If he cared so much about winning a title and money wasn't important(as he has said), he'd just go take the MLE somewhere and win a title next year. There are a lot of teams in a better situation, for now and the future, than the Knicks. That much is certain.

Bulls - Their need is a SG, not so much of a SF. Would they take Melo? Of course, but they don't need him.
Magic - Those trades they pulled have taken them out of the Melo sweepstakes.
Heat - LOL, Really?
Lakers - Unless Melo is a 6'10" C that plays for the Orlando Magic, I don't think the Lakers are interested in him. Quite honestly after Kobe retires the face of the franchise will be that of a young one, not a Carmelo Anthony who would be around his mid 30s.
Spurs - Why would the Spurs mess up their chemistry? They have the best record in the NBA, if it aint broke don't fix it.
Jazz - Who exactly wants to play for them?
Mavs - Same spot he's in now, getting abused by LAL and SAS.
Hornets - They can contend for a title, really?
Celtics - Didn't Pierce just sign an extension? So where would Melo play?
Clippers - See Hornets.
Denver - This makes the most sense if Denver can build around him and get him a 2nd option. If this happens he will still be crushed by LAL, SAS, and OKC.

You're taking him to literally when he said winning > money. Of course he wants to get paid, but he wants to win as well, he's not going to win in NJ. The only team that's a perfect fit for him is NYK.

[J Smitty]

I would like for you to name these places he could go and compete for a title. And I'm not a Knick fan, so if that last part was to insult me, you failed miserably.

Wasn't an insult at you. I said Knicks fans hyping the Knicks up so much has gotten other people(like you) to believe they're actually a really good team. Reality is, they're just average.

Teams he could go to to give him a better shot at winning a championship(since that's all he supposedly cares about)? Bulls, Magic, Heat, Lakers, Spurs, Jazz, Mavs, Hornets, Celtics, Clippers, staying in Denver...to name a few.

If he cared so much about winning a title and money wasn't important(as he has said), he'd just go take the MLE somewhere and win a title next year. There are a lot of teams in a better situation, for now and the future, than the Knicks. That much is certain.

Everything you said is an opinion that you pass off as fact. "Reality is, they're just average." Average for what? An NBA team? Their record says otherwise. According to many analysts they're an above average team. But apparently you know more than they do right? Did Donnie Walsh kick your dog or something? What do you have against the Knicks? BTW Clippers have a better chance for a championship with Melo than the Knicks? That right there ruins your credibility.

They currently have the 13th best record in the league. Just in case you didn't know, there are 30 teams in this league. Can't get a lot more average than that.

Clippers have a much better future than New York. Mostly because they aren't paying their star forward 20 million dollars. He also isn't almost 30 with bad knees, but I digress.

[Knicker23]

Hornets, Clippers, Denver would give him a better chance? Yeah okay. .

And we'll see which future turns out better between the LA clippers and Knicks

[Blackmun]

Clippers have a much better future than New York. Mostly because they aren't paying their star forward 20 million dollars. He also isn't almost 30 with bad knees, but I digress.

Every now and then people start talking about Clippers having a future. A team will never have a future unless the owner is interested in investing in that franchise. Sterling isn't. He never was. He hasn't magically become interested now.

The only way the Clippers will have a relevant future, is if the franchise is 1) sold and 2) moved.

[J Smitty]

Hornets, Clippers, Denver would give him a better chance? Yeah okay. .

And we'll see which future turns out better between the LA clippers and Knicks

NO with Paul/Euro/Melo/West/Okafor is a more complete team than NY with Melo(and they actually play defense). So is Davis/Gordon/Melo/Griffin/Jordan. Easily.

[Blackmun]

Why is NO even mentioned? Their owner is notorious for not wanting to pay luxury tax, the chances of him top loading the roster is beyond ridiculous.

You seem to tunnel vision a lot on potential starting 5s, ignoring all of the other parts it takes to make a team successful. More than anything, money. Lots of money.

Clippers don't spend money.
Hornets don't spend money.

As for that Hornets team being better than the Knicks, that's very arguable. They're closely balanced, and I'd give the edge to Knicks - as long as Amar'e stays healthy.

But that's also irrelevant since Melo wants to move home, not to NO.

[hoops4life]

When is 6th in the East and 13th overall considered really good? They are 5 games above .500 at the halfway point.

I don't buy your explanation of why he wouldn't go to the various teams. Really!?!

Jazz - Who exactly wants to play for them?

It is about winning isn't it?

His contract is up at the end of the year. If he really wants to win, he should let it expire and take something less than the max.

[Blackmun]

I don't buy your explanation of why he wouldn't go to the various teams. Really!?!

Considering he has made it crystal clear that his first choice is the Knicks, you don't really need to buy anyone else's explanation, do you?

[Gallinari4three]

I cant believe how crystal clear Carmelo is being and you guys are still in denial.

[corona]

I don't buy your explanation of why he wouldn't go to the various teams. Really!?!

Considering he has made it crystal clear that his first choice is the Knicks, you don't really need to buy anyone else's explanation, do you?

how so? everytime someone confronts him about the knicks, he talks about how he said it was all blown out of proportion from a comment he made when playing in MSG last season. just the same way comments by LBJ & Kobe saying MSG was the 'greatest basketball arena in the world' made knicks fans get all worked up when those guys were nearing the end of their respective contracts.

when the knicks rumors were flying a couple months ago, he tweeted something along the lines of "holy ****, people need to get a grip and stop running with ridiculous rumors"

now it's "Born in Brooklyn, Manufactured in Bmore. Point blank period"

He'd be 30 years old before the team even moves to Brooklyn. He'd be close to his mid 30s by the time they were serious contenders. He'd be close to 40 before the "Brooklyn Nets" would have any chance to rival the Knicks.

he's 26 now. he'll be 27 to start next season. 28 when barclays opens.
the celtics went from .293 to champions in one season. everyone calling for ainges head to being brilliant.
the lakers went from .500 to finals to champs over 2 seasons thanks to gasol.
heat went from .500 to eastern finals to nba champs in 2 seasons due to shaq trade.
with the right moves, getting stars, spending money, getting a little lucky, that's all it takes.

not sure why melo would be retired before they'd have a chance to put together a good roster.

[MaceCase]

Why is NO even mentioned? Their owner is notorious for not wanting to pay luxury tax, the chances of him top loading the roster is beyond ridiculous.

You seem to tunnel vision a lot on potential starting 5s, ignoring all of the other parts it takes to make a team successful. More than anything, money. Lots of money.

Clippers don't spend money.
Hornets don't spend money.

As for that Hornets team being better than the Knicks, that's very arguable. They're closely balanced, and I'd give the edge to Knicks - as long as Amar'e stays healthy.

But that's also irrelevant since Melo wants to move home, not to NO.

Just want to let you know that the NBA owns the Hornets while looking for a new buyer. Shinn is out the picture.

[J Smitty]

Carmelo Anthony merchandise at the Pepsi Center was on sale for 50% off tonight. I wonder if they know something?

http://www.denverpost.com/nuggets/ci_17109485?

[Dantares]

is it even possible for the Nets to make the playoffs if they get carmelo anthony? if they lose tommorrow then their record is 10-30. The last few years the east 8th seed has won 40 games. can the Nets go 30-12 the last 42?


actually with brand new players they will need an adjustment period like Orlando did when they acquired Gil, J-rich and turk. if the Nets are 10-30 and then lose 3 of the next 4 after a trade then they are 11-33. that means they would have to win 29 out of the last 38 to make the playoffs.

a team with Melo, an old rip and Chauncey, and brooke lopez is barely above .500 team to begin with. i just don't know if they could pull it off.

[J Smitty]

8th place team is on track for 32 wins this year. The East just sucks after you get past the top 5 teams or so...and considering they get to play each other a bunch more the rest of the season, it wouldn't be hard for one of those bottom dwellers to go .500 in the second half and make the playoffs.

[Blackmun]

how so? everytime someone confronts him about the knicks

It's less than a week since he said playing for New York would be a dream. I do not presume anything that goes inside his head, but I think it's fairly clear where he would prefer ending up.

he's 26 now. he'll be 27 to start next season. 28 when barclays opens.
the celtics went from .293 to champions in one season. everyone calling for ainges head to being brilliant.
the lakers went from .500 to finals to champs over 2 seasons thanks to gasol.
heat went from .500 to eastern finals to nba champs in 2 seasons due to shaq trade.
with the right moves, getting stars, spending money, getting a little lucky, that's all it takes.

He's 27 this year, let's not get into a big deal about which month of the year people are born in, those 5 months give or take means nothing. If you think Nets are just 1.5 year from moving, you are incredibly optimistic.

not sure why melo would be retired before they'd have a chance to put together a good roster.

It's certainly a scenario he has to consider. Could they possibly put together a contending team in 2-3 seasons? Yes. Is that a sure thing, that he should base his decision on? Hardly.

Just want to let you know that the NBA owns the Hornets while looking for a new buyer. Shinn is out the picture.

That's true, my bad, just old habbit. That being said, I think the uncertainty to both their owner situation and their future location counts against any possibility of Melo going there, not in favor of it.