Miami (2) vs. Boston (3) Continued

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Re: Miami (2) vs. Boston (3) Continued 

Post#1181 » by INKtastic » Sun May 8, 2011 5:04 am

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INKtastic wrote: It wasn't the only time in the game Wade did that either, he tried to pull Pierce down earlier.


no, he didn't.

he was breaking his own fall.


watch the replay from the other end of the court, while it's still up, it's at the 59 second mark here
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SE1uy27QZ4s[/youtube]

Wade wraps his arm around Rondo and then pulls him down. See the sideline view at the 6 second mark. Rondo is standing straight, his waist is pulled sideways by wade, then his body follows.

Like I said before, Rondo only fell because Wade pulled him down. Earlier he tried to pull pierce down when he fell. It's not a legitimate basketball play to pull another player down while you are falling.
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Re: Miami (2) vs. Boston (3) Continued 

Post#1182 » by 3LiftHeatCurse » Sun May 8, 2011 5:09 am

INKtastic wrote:Earlier he tried to pull pierce down when he fell.


no, he wasn't trying to pull pierce to the ground.

he was breaking his own fall.
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Re: Miami (2) vs. Boston (3) Continued 

Post#1183 » by Vertical Limit » Sun May 8, 2011 5:19 am

Wasted efforts by Chalmers and Joel Anthony. Lebron, Wade and Bosh need to learn to take advantage of the opportunity when the bench is playing well because it does not happen very often.
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Re: Miami (2) vs. Boston (3) Continued 

Post#1184 » by Rusty Walrus » Sun May 8, 2011 5:23 am

Wade certainly pulled him down, but that was a freak accident injury.

Out of all ways to hurt other players, slowly pulling them down from the back would rank awfully low on the list.
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Post#1185 » by ChiCitySPORTS#1 » Sun May 8, 2011 5:26 am

Conclusion wrote:
ChiCitySPORTS#1 wrote:I dont think he undercut him either. Nor was that a dirty play. Its just the way he has been handling himself recently. Maybe im looking too much into it, but he seems to be a little more cocky. Plus his comments on the MVP award this year. He used to such a chill dude, now hes talking too much.

I think every superstar goes through this phase. Wade is entering the stage where he is in the 2nd part of his prime where the oldies are finally getting old (Kobe, Pierce, etc) and he is the best now. Kobe also acted like this in a similar age. Here's a cycle that I made up lol. I'd say Rose is between 4 and 5. Wade is at 6 to 7. LeBron is at 6. Kobe is at 8 to 9.

1. Rookie - you look to prove yourself and get media attention.
2. Transcendence to Stardom - still hungry to get your name out, but you're out there. you play well most of the time and are emerging in the media
3. Stardom - you've established yourself as a good star player with decent media attention, but not a player at the elite level
4. Transcendence to Superstardom - the media is hyping you up, you're chasing the veteran superstars, and your team is succeeding. you are still looking to improve as much as you can.
5. Early Superstar - you've established yourself as one of the best in the league. people know what kind of player you are. people love you as you are good and media loves you too. you're still not that cocky.
6. Prime Superstar - you are a de facto superstar. you're not really looking to exponentially expand and improve your game. you have more swagger and cockiness. you feel as you are at the top. media endorsements and other egotistical stuff is common.
7. Late Superstar - your game is declining only a little. you aren't as dominant, but you are still one of the best. new superstars are emerging and challenging you. you still think you are awesome and are cocky.
8. Decline in Prime - your game is declining more. you aren't as dominant. new players legitimately challenging you. people will still claim that you're the best, but some will name the new players the new superstars. you aren't as cocky as you realize your mortality. you still can take over games, but not like you could before.
9. Veteran - your game is much lesser. you're still getting it done but in other crafty ways. there are new superstars in the game. you are still respected. much more selfless and really only concerned about team success.



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Post#1186 » by kapono24UCLA » Sun May 8, 2011 5:29 am

Heat had next to none fast break points, and didn't really get to the rack that well. Pierce did a fantastic job. If Boston plays with the same energy on D in Game 4 it will continue to be tough for Miami.

Bosh was terrible again, proving he is the barometer for this team, which is unfortunate.
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Post#1187 » by jfs1000d » Sun May 8, 2011 5:32 am

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ChiCitySPORTS#1 wrote:LeBrons douchiness is rubbing off on Wade. Not just because of todays game, but the stupid **** hes been saying lately too.

??? Wade has never been the player to purposely injure someone. It was unfortunate it happened but Wade did not purposely go for a take down at Rondo. He's not that type of guy. You guys need to remove your heads off your asses.


I know ppl are acting like wade undercut rondo purposely or something...both wade and rondo fell, and rondo used his hand for protection and dislocated his elbow..yaa, that was soo intentional..


Wade absolutely intentionally took him down. That wasn't an accident, though I am sure Wade didn't want him to get hurt. The ball was poked away and Rondo had the momentum to go get it and go for an easy 2. Wade decided to just grab Rondo and take him down while he fell. At best, it was going to be out on Wade. WorsT? Foul on Wade.

He took him down intentionally and Rondo got hurt.

Edit: Watching NBA TV, even more incensed. Wade took him down after the play. Grrrr.
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Post#1188 » by Tuff Gong » Sun May 8, 2011 5:37 am

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I'd of reacted the same way Wade did, but probably worse. I commend Wade for doing what he did. Celtics are the dirtiest team in the NBA, and they're slick dirty. Glad someone finally paid back dirtiness with dirtiness.
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Post#1189 » by 3LiftHeatCurse » Sun May 8, 2011 5:38 am

LeBron's glorious 3rd quarter.

0-3 FG's
1-4 FT's
2 Rebound
4 Turnovers
1 Foul
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Re: Miami (2) vs. Boston (3) Continued 

Post#1190 » by NCHeels2008 » Sun May 8, 2011 5:39 am

3LiftHeatCurse wrote:LeBron's glorious 3rd quarter.

0-3 FG's
1-4 FT's
2 Rebound
4 Turnovers
1 Foul


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Post#1191 » by Tuff Gong » Sun May 8, 2011 5:40 am

Rondo was clearly trying to prevent Wade from chasing down the loose ball. Illegally.

Again, if I'm Wade I toss him into the stands like a rag doll.
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Post#1192 » by calamity » Sun May 8, 2011 5:42 am

I'm really pissed about the whole incident. Wade is a filthy player...had that been Artest he wouldnt be back for the series. Lost any respect I had (not much) for Wade. Heat prove that they can only get ahead by being dirty (yet they still couldn't win... you cant ease poor play by being dirty). They will have an asterisk on this series win if they win it. :evil:
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Post#1193 » by TommyPoints » Sun May 8, 2011 5:45 am

Tuff Gong wrote:Rondo was clearly trying to prevent Wade from chasing down the loose ball. Illegally.

Again, if I'm Wade I toss him into the stands like a rag doll.


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Post#1194 » by Heatles » Sun May 8, 2011 5:46 am

Let me know when Wade or LeBron cock punch someone when they are going up for a jumper.

Until then, dont EVER compare him with Douche Garnett who will only step to the JJ Barea's and water boys of the world.
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Post#1195 » by pross » Sun May 8, 2011 5:48 am

Tuff Gong wrote:Image

I'd of reacted the same way Wade did, but probably worse. I commend Wade for doing what he did. Celtics are the dirtiest team in the NBA, and they're slick dirty. Glad someone finally paid back dirtiness with dirtiness.


Tuff Gong wrote:Rondo was clearly trying to prevent Wade from chasing down the loose ball. Illegally.<BR itxtNodeId="913"><BR itxtNodeId="912">Again, if I'm Wade I toss him into the stands like a rag doll.


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Post#1196 » by INKtastic » Sun May 8, 2011 5:50 am

Rusty Walrus wrote:Wade certainly pulled him down, but that was a freak accident injury.

Out of all ways to hurt other players, slowly pulling them down from the back would rank awfully low on the list.


nobody said he tried to hurt him. However, he intentionally pulled him down with unnecessary contact. The announcer even immediately said as it happened, before anyone even knew there was an injury, "and then Wade pulls down Rondo". It would certainly seem that it qualifies as a flagrant foul independent of it causing an injury.

Section IV--Flagrant Foul
a. If contact committed against a player, with or without the ball, is interpreted to be unnecessary, a flagrant foul--penalty (1) will be assessed. A personal foul is charged to the offender and a team foul is charged to the team.
PENALTY: (1) Two free throws shall be attempted and the ball awarded to the offended team on either side of the court at the free throw line extended. (2) If the offended player is injured and unable to attempt his free throws, the opposing coach will select any player from the bench to attempt the free throws. (3) This substitute may not be replaced until the ball is legally touched by a player on the court. (EXCEPTION: Rule 3--Section V--e.) (4) The injured player may not return to the game. (5) A player will be ejected if he commits two flagrant fouls in the same game.
b. If contact committed against a player, with or without the ball, is interpret-ed to be unnecessary and excessive, a flagrant foul--penalty (2) will be assessed. A personal foul is charged to the offender and a team foul is charged to the team.
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Post#1197 » by Rusty Walrus » Sun May 8, 2011 6:03 am

INKtastic wrote:
Rusty Walrus wrote:Wade certainly pulled him down, but that was a freak accident injury.

Out of all ways to hurt other players, slowly pulling them down from the back would rank awfully low on the list.


nobody said he tried to hurt him. However, he intentionally pulled him down with unnecessary contact. The announcer even immediately said as it happened, before anyone even knew there was an injury, "and then Wade pulls down Rondo". It would certainly seem that it qualifies as a flagrant foul independent of it causing an injury.



The only reason we're talking about this play is because Rondo got hurt. I guarantee you there are more egregious offenses being committed during playoff time basketball that aren't even shown replays because no one gets hurt.

Was it a foul? Sure.

But again, to make Wade some kind of pariah because of this is ridiculous.

Freak accident. **** happens.
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Post#1198 » by carbine23 » Sun May 8, 2011 6:06 am

calamity wrote:I'm really pissed about the whole incident. Wade is a filthy player...had that been Artest he wouldnt be back for the series. Lost any respect I had (not much) for Wade. Heat prove that they can only get ahead by being dirty (yet they still couldn't win... you cant ease poor play by being dirty). They will have an asterisk on this series win if they win it. :evil:

Asterisk for winning a series because of one incident taht is not intentional? get the fck outta here.
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Post#1199 » by Tuff Gong » Sun May 8, 2011 6:17 am

pross wrote:
Tuff Gong wrote:Image

I'd of reacted the same way Wade did, but probably worse. I commend Wade for doing what he did. Celtics are the dirtiest team in the NBA, and they're slick dirty. Glad someone finally paid back dirtiness with dirtiness.


Tuff Gong wrote:Rondo was clearly trying to prevent Wade from chasing down the loose ball. Illegally.<BR itxtNodeId="913"><BR itxtNodeId="912">Again, if I'm Wade I toss him into the stands like a rag doll.


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Post#1200 » by Tuff Gong » Sun May 8, 2011 6:17 am

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Tuff Gong wrote:Rondo was clearly trying to prevent Wade from chasing down the loose ball. Illegally.

Again, if I'm Wade I toss him into the stands like a rag doll.


Ron Artest, is that you?


Ron Artest initiates his skirmishes. Wade reacted.

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