Breaking: Marcus Smart Named DPOY

BenoUdrihFTL · Post #121 » by **BenoUdrihFTL** » Tue Apr 19, 2022 2:27 am

Marcus Smart?

Lmao

themoneyteam2 · Post #122 » by **themoneyteam2** » Tue Apr 19, 2022 2:34 am

hoosierdaddy34 wrote:Marcus Smart winning DPOY the day after Kyrie decimated him is pretty humorous.

Read on Twitter

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Holy casual...

themoneyteam2 · Post #123 » by **themoneyteam2** » Tue Apr 19, 2022 2:37 am

SunsWinSunsWin wrote:Zeke said that KD asked him how he would go up against Mikal since he's such a good defender. KD didn't ask about anyone else. The players know who is DPOY. Leaving it up to the media to vote for these awards and all-nba teams is just garbage. Let the coaches and players decide who among their peers is deserving of the acclimades.

Mikal gave Smart his flowers and Smart did the same back to him. If Mikal isn't crying about it, neither should you as a grown ass man.

Both are great defenders. KD asking Zeke how he would go against Mikal is also irrelevant. Why would he care about how Isaiah Thomas at 5'11" would go against a wing defender?

TroubleS0me · Post #124 » by **TroubleS0me** » Tue Apr 19, 2022 2:42 am

yikes & Timelord only got 8 VOTES!?

this was off

themoneyteam2 · Post #125 » by **themoneyteam2** » Tue Apr 19, 2022 2:42 am

DroseReturnChi wrote:this is a joke right? after kyrie smoked him. smh give it to simmons.

Kyrie scored a whopping 10 pts on 26 possessions on him. I wouldn't call that smoked but I see you're a casual and assume Kyrie scored all 39 of his points on Smart.

themoneyteam2 · Post #126 » by **themoneyteam2** » Tue Apr 19, 2022 2:43 am

Perseus1966 wrote:they awarded the flopping clown ,good job nba.

Just like they awarded the flopping king Giannis MVP twice. Good job NBA!

1st banana · Post #127 » by **1st banana** » Tue Apr 19, 2022 2:50 am

Everyone clamoring for gobert I guess haven’t been watching him give up like 10 3s in row right this very second.

CptCrunch · Post #128 » by **CptCrunch** » Tue Apr 19, 2022 2:53 am

Smart got a team award.

He isn't close to being the best defensive player.

You could argue he is the most valuable defensive player due to his leadership and communication abilities.

TheLand13 · Post #129 » by **TheLand13** » Tue Apr 19, 2022 2:54 am

KembaWalker wrote:nobody is afraid of going at Marcus Smart lol
Bam/Gobert/Bridges are all more deserving than him, but voter fatigue and Celtics media bias wins out

You were doing good for a while but now you’re right back to the hilariously bad takes.

meekrab · Post #130 » by **meekrab** » Tue Apr 19, 2022 2:55 am

Well he can't do **** else so at least he has this.

1st banana · Post #131 » by **1st banana** » Tue Apr 19, 2022 2:55 am

IceColdCubano wrote:
CoP wrote:
slick_watts wrote:can someone present an objective reasoning for smart over any of rudy gobert, draymond green or giannis? not thrilled with this one. he's had a great season for sure and is a great defensive guard perhaps top 3 in the nba this year. but dpoy? not over those big guys, if the criteria is 'most impactful defender in the nba' this season.

- Draymond missed too many games
- Smart had more steals per game than any of them, in addition to Bridges
- According to matchup data, Smart allowed fewer points per possession over the season than Bridges, Gobert or Giannis
- Smart had more deflections per game than any of them
- Smart recovered more loose balls per game than any of them
- Smart drew more charges per game than any of them

I am not saying there aren't arguments for Gobert, Bridges and Giannis, but there is certainly a good argument for Smart as well. If a guard was going to win it again, Smart was a good candidate for it.

Funny how you didn't mention Bam who eclipses smart on all the analytics for defensive metrics.

It’s also funny how the heat went 17-9 without bam and had essentially the same defensive rating.

themoneyteam2 · Post #132 » by **themoneyteam2** » Tue Apr 19, 2022 3:02 am

Read on Twitter

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Or your 3x DPOY could get played off the court by Maxi Kleber. Couldn't be my DPOY

jehosafats · Post #133 » by **jehosafats** » Tue Apr 19, 2022 3:08 am

Well deserved. He's been that good since his rookie year.

IceColdCubano · Post #134 » by **IceColdCubano** » Tue Apr 19, 2022 3:09 am

1st banana wrote:
IceColdCubano wrote:
CoP wrote:- Draymond missed too many games
- Smart had more steals per game than any of them, in addition to Bridges
- According to matchup data, Smart allowed fewer points per possession over the season than Bridges, Gobert or Giannis
- Smart had more deflections per game than any of them
- Smart recovered more loose balls per game than any of them
- Smart drew more charges per game than any of them

I am not saying there aren't arguments for Gobert, Bridges and Giannis, but there is certainly a good argument for Smart as well. If a guard was going to win it again, Smart was a good candidate for it.

Funny how you didn't mention Bam who eclipses smart on all the analytics for defensive metrics.

It’s also funny how the heat went 17-9 without bam and had essentially the same defensive rating.

Good try trying to use a useless stat that reflects little on Miami's actual success. Bam's numbers with any combination of Heat players has astronomical defensive metrics, and lessen when he isn't on the court with them by a lot. However Miami has the best bench in the league, and a really deep team, continuing to win regardless of missing players is how they managed to keep winning. Doesn't change the fact then when he was on the court, He held players to their lowest rates and defended all positions equally on any switch a true defender that can defend 1-5.

Jaqua92 · Post #135 » by **Jaqua92** » Tue Apr 19, 2022 3:11 am

IceColdCubano wrote:
CoP wrote:
slick_watts wrote:can someone present an objective reasoning for smart over any of rudy gobert, draymond green or giannis? not thrilled with this one. he's had a great season for sure and is a great defensive guard perhaps top 3 in the nba this year. but dpoy? not over those big guys, if the criteria is 'most impactful defender in the nba' this season.

- Draymond missed too many games
- Smart had more steals per game than any of them, in addition to Bridges
- According to matchup data, Smart allowed fewer points per possession over the season than Bridges, Gobert or Giannis
- Smart had more deflections per game than any of them
- Smart recovered more loose balls per game than any of them
- Smart drew more charges per game than any of them

I am not saying there aren't arguments for Gobert, Bridges and Giannis, but there is certainly a good argument for Smart as well. If a guard was going to win it again, Smart was a good candidate for it.

Funny how you didn't mention Bam who eclipses smart on all the analytics for defensive metrics.

As does Rob Williams, who was the #1 defender in the league according to analytics. Smart deserves it by being an integral part of the elite defense.

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IceColdCubano · Post #136 » by **IceColdCubano** » Tue Apr 19, 2022 3:19 am

Jaqua92 wrote:
IceColdCubano wrote:
CoP wrote:- Draymond missed too many games
- Smart had more steals per game than any of them, in addition to Bridges
- According to matchup data, Smart allowed fewer points per possession over the season than Bridges, Gobert or Giannis
- Smart had more deflections per game than any of them
- Smart recovered more loose balls per game than any of them
- Smart drew more charges per game than any of them

I am not saying there aren't arguments for Gobert, Bridges and Giannis, but there is certainly a good argument for Smart as well. If a guard was going to win it again, Smart was a good candidate for it.

Funny how you didn't mention Bam who eclipses smart on all the analytics for defensive metrics.
As does Rob Williams, who was the #1 defender in the league according to analytics. Smart deserves it by being an integral part of the elite defense.

Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk

Again, this is an individual player award, whom the top contending names all belong to elite defenses or they wouldn't be in the conversation. Justifying this by saying Smart was on the #1 defensive efficiency team vs a player in the #4 rated team should not be the deciding factor. Miami had the best 3pt defense this year in part because of Bam's ability to switch out on the perimeter and lock down a wing player. There are far more defensive metrics than efficiency.

Ill News · Post #137 » by **Ill News** » Tue Apr 19, 2022 3:26 am

Romeiro Celtic wrote:
hoosierdaddy34 wrote:Marcus Smart winning DPOY the day after Kyrie decimated him is pretty humorous.

Pretty humorous is your team whole season

ConSarnit · Post #138 » by **ConSarnit** » Tue Apr 19, 2022 3:27 am

Jaqua92 wrote:
IceColdCubano wrote:
CoP wrote:- Draymond missed too many games
- Smart had more steals per game than any of them, in addition to Bridges
- According to matchup data, Smart allowed fewer points per possession over the season than Bridges, Gobert or Giannis
- Smart had more deflections per game than any of them
- Smart recovered more loose balls per game than any of them
- Smart drew more charges per game than any of them

I am not saying there aren't arguments for Gobert, Bridges and Giannis, but there is certainly a good argument for Smart as well. If a guard was going to win it again, Smart was a good candidate for it.

Funny how you didn't mention Bam who eclipses smart on all the analytics for defensive metrics.
As does Rob Williams, who was the #1 defender in the league according to analytics. Smart deserves it by being an integral part of the elite defense.

Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk

This is terrible logic.

Would you say Donovan Mitchell is the best offensive player in the league? He was on the best offense.

You also must think Booker is MVP as he was on the best team.

How much do people think BOS defense would fall off without Smart vs UTA without Gobert? It’s not even comparable who does more (and I’m not even a Gobert fan).

No guard/wing should ever win this award. It’s not their fault but they can just never impact the game at the same level an elite big can. Voter fatigue is so dumb.

wade44 · Post #139 » by **wade44** » Tue Apr 19, 2022 3:29 am

Crazy how the Celtics had him on the trade block for a while there

ITYSL · Post #140 » by **ITYSL** » Tue Apr 19, 2022 3:35 am

IceColdCubano wrote:
CoP wrote:
slick_watts wrote:can someone present an objective reasoning for smart over any of rudy gobert, draymond green or giannis? not thrilled with this one. he's had a great season for sure and is a great defensive guard perhaps top 3 in the nba this year. but dpoy? not over those big guys, if the criteria is 'most impactful defender in the nba' this season.

- Draymond missed too many games
- Smart had more steals per game than any of them, in addition to Bridges
- According to matchup data, Smart allowed fewer points per possession over the season than Bridges, Gobert or Giannis
- Smart had more deflections per game than any of them
- Smart recovered more loose balls per game than any of them
- Smart drew more charges per game than any of them

I am not saying there aren't arguments for Gobert, Bridges and Giannis, but there is certainly a good argument for Smart as well. If a guard was going to win it again, Smart was a good candidate for it.

Funny how you didn't mention Bam who eclipses smart on all the analytics for defensive metrics.

The person I replied to didn't mention Bam. Pretty sure Smart was better than Bam on most if not all those metrics I listed, though.

Bam had a good case for DPOY too, not sure what to tell you. I'm a big fan of Bam.