Las Vegas Summer league - July 7-17, 2017

nitocobola · Post #141 » by **nitocobola** » Sat Jul 8, 2017 1:41 am

man, lavar is the real star

Post #142 » by **Duke4life831** » Sat Jul 8, 2017 1:42 am

Lonzo has been put into a bad situation because of his dad and ESPN. With his dad's non stop talking and then add ESPN basically hiring Lavar as an on air personality because hes on their shows so much, to now ESPN talking non stop about Ball. It makes people not want to root for Lonzo.

Mulhollanddrive · Post #143 » by **Mulhollanddrive** » Sat Jul 8, 2017 1:42 am

Is he tanking to avoid DeAaron Fox.

Teen Girl Squad · Post #144 » by **Teen Girl Squad** » Sat Jul 8, 2017 1:44 am

So far, my issues with Lonzo have been showing up, which is a bummer with how good Tatum has looked out of the gate. Runs to the 3 point line and passes it away, can't/hasn't really shown anything in the half court. AN inauspicious start, thats for sure (I know not to overreact to SL games, but it would be nice to have a reason to overreact).

Wolfgang630 · Post #145 » by **Wolfgang630** » Sat Jul 8, 2017 1:44 am

Duke4life831 wrote:Lonzo has been put into a bad situation because of his dad and ESPN. With his dad's non stop talking and then add ESPN basically hiring Lavar as an on air personality because hes on their shows so much, to now ESPN talking non stop about Ball. It makes people not want to root for Lonzo.

Yep. I'm trying hard to separate the father and media from Lonzo.

Jkam31 · Post #146 » by **Jkam31** » Sat Jul 8, 2017 1:45 am

dballislife wrote:ball should get a ton of assist just by passing the ball so much, just sheer volume of passes should get him assist, just one half but i didnt see him create a easy dime for a teammate yet i dont even remember him touching the paint with his dribble yet

He's Jason Kidd though even though he can't get past the 3 point line dribbling, can't dribble, is the worst pick and roll pg in SL, and can't defend.

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_AIJ_ · Post #147 » by **_AIJ_** » Sat Jul 8, 2017 1:45 am

This Lonzo Ball hype has got to stop

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cksdayoff · Post #148 » by **cksdayoff** » Sat Jul 8, 2017 1:46 am

Duke4life831 wrote:Lonzo has been put into a bad situation because of his dad and ESPN. With his dad's non stop talking and then add ESPN basically hiring Lavar as an on air personality because hes on their shows so much, to now ESPN talking non stop about Ball. It makes people not want to root for Lonzo.

Lonzo was put into a bad situation from being drafted #2 overall

pelifan · Post #149 » by **pelifan** » Sat Jul 8, 2017 1:47 am

Jon1798 wrote:
pelifan wrote:
Jon1798 wrote:
Looked like a man amongst boys against a very stout Toronto front line.......offensively. He is so quick and skilled, it's pretty easy for him.

He still needs to get stronger and move better defensively IMO. But the guy is going to be a player.

yea i saw some highlights and his stroke, touch and straight line drives look good. His range looks to have gotten longer as well, but that doesn't tell me much about his rebounding and defense.

Can definitely see the weight gain.

He's obviously been working on the same path that AD did. He's added some offensive moves, and made a lot of aggressive drives with short one handed push shots. Very similar to what AD does.

I don't question at all his scoring. But I think he's too athletic not to protect the rim better. Took AD a while too, so we'll see.

who's the last bigman who was immediately good defensively coming into the league? Noah wasn't, Chandler wasn't, DAJ wasn't, Gobert is probably the closest.

Diallo will get there too, at least as an above average defender. This year I'm just hoping for some rebounding and 3rd big, bench level play. That would be wonderful.

Sprewell4Three · Post #150 » by **Sprewell4Three** » Sat Jul 8, 2017 1:48 am

Jkam31 wrote:
dballislife wrote:man ball has been great with his passing, but does he know how to dribble into the paint, or score or shoot or anything like that

Sucks at pick and roll just another important part of nba basketball he's not good at

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Do you guys know who's his teacher? MAGIC FREAKING JOHNSON!
Lonzo would be a complete bum if he can't learn from Magic. He'll be fine.

OsuCavsfan103 · Post #151 » by **OsuCavsfan103** » Sat Jul 8, 2017 1:50 am

Listen, Lonzo had plenty of chances to tell his dad to sit back and tone it down, all accounts are he didn't. It may be his Dad who was overhyping him like crazy and making him unlikable as was ESPN, but he did NOTHING to stop it,

Sprewell4Three · Post #152 » by **Sprewell4Three** » Sat Jul 8, 2017 1:51 am

OsuCavsfan103 wrote:Listen, Lonzo had plenty of chances to tell his dad to sit back and tone it down, all accounts are he didn't. It may be his Dad who was overhyping him like crazy and making him unlikable as was ESPN, but he did NOTHING to stop it,

If you dont like him why continue to watch? Why torture yourself . I cant stand some sports fans.

The Evidence · Post #153 » by **The Evidence** » Sat Jul 8, 2017 1:52 am

Lonzo's passing is overrated.... always looking to push the ball ahead because you don't have any other NBA skill doesn't make you a good passer.

Next we're gonna start hearing Laker fans asking for hockey assists to be officially counted in box scores.

Post #154 » by **Duke4life831** » Sat Jul 8, 2017 1:53 am

Ingram looks like night and day from last year's SL games (which he should). Looks much better in transition and great vision for his size as well.

Post #155 » by **CoreyGallagher** » Sat Jul 8, 2017 1:53 am

Teen Girl Squad wrote:So far, my issues with Lonzo have been showing up, which is a bummer with how good Tatum has looked out of the gate. Runs to the 3 point line and passes it away, can't/hasn't really shown anything in the half court. AN inauspicious start, thats for sure (I know not to overreact to SL games, but it would be nice to have a reason to overreact).

SL is especially unkind to passers - they're unfamiliar with their teammates and it's chaotic - it affected Simmons as well. When Ball's shot begins falling he'll be better off, just an off game imo.

Ball made lot of shots from NBA distance in college, something like 37-38%, he can shoot from deep.

Sprewell4Three · Post #156 » by **Sprewell4Three** » Sat Jul 8, 2017 1:53 am

The Evidence wrote:Lonzo's passing is overrated.... always looking to push the ball ahead because you don't have any other NBA skill doesn't make you a good passer.

Next we're gonna start hearing Laker fans asking for hockey assists to be officially counted in box scores.

His colleges stats say otherwise. No other NBA skill? Really, ya'll tune in just to hope a player fails because you're butthurt his daddy talks so much.

dballislife · Post #157 » by **dballislife** » Sat Jul 8, 2017 1:54 am

i give him that though ball is a very good unselfish and willing passer, but i would like to see other stuff

Post #158 » by **Cactus Jack** » Sat Jul 8, 2017 1:54 am

Ball looks awful

Spens1 · Post #159 » by **Spens1** » Sat Jul 8, 2017 1:55 am

Johnson has looked solid i must say. Best clipper by a mile.

Our defense on the other hand, you would think D'Antoni was still coaching us.

Ben-N1ce · Post #160 » by **Ben-N1ce** » Sat Jul 8, 2017 1:55 am

Comparing golf swings to shooting lol Furyk even hits contested golf shots..

Who will dominate?