Kyle Lowry has been awful in this playoffs
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Realgm told me Lakers were stupid for not trading for Lowry. Now realgm is telling me that Lowry is a negative asset and washed.
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Lowry has looked 100% washed up. He’s gonna be out of the league in 2-3yr and probably a full time backup from here on out.
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I initially thought Lowry's 3rd year was team option but damn it's not even team option. It's gonna be not easy to get rid of that contract
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Woodsanity wrote:Raptors stans have always disagreed with me despite all concrete proof saying otherwise but Lowry has always been a bad playoff performer. Yes we know he is old and washed now but its not like he was ever good in the playoffs.
He was fine next to Kawhi
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John Murdoch wrote:Woodsanity wrote:Raptors stans have always disagreed with me despite all concrete proof saying otherwise but Lowry has always been a bad playoff performer. Yes we know he is old and washed now but its not like he was ever good in the playoffs.
He was fine next to Kawhi
He was fine not next to Kawhi as well.
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He was not that good all season.
Definite decline happening
Definite decline happening
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zimpy27 wrote:He was not good all season.
Huh? 13.5, 7.5 and 4.5 on 60% TS.
Solid Raptor Metrics - https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/nba-player-ratings/?player=Kyle%20Lowry&season=2022
Other advanced stats look good.
Is he worth 30 million? Clearly not. But still a pretty good player.
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Duffman100 wrote:zimpy27 wrote:He was not good all season.
Huh? 13.5, 7.5 and 4.5 on 60% TS.
Solid Raptor Metrics - https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/nba-player-ratings/?player=Kyle%20Lowry&season=2022
Other advanced stats look good.
Is he worth 30 million? Clearly not. But still a pretty good player.
I should say not THAT good.
No not worth his money, probably worth half the money.
His role is valuable in the heat still so he definitely has impact
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zimpy27 wrote:Duffman100 wrote:zimpy27 wrote:He was not good all season.
Huh? 13.5, 7.5 and 4.5 on 60% TS.
Solid Raptor Metrics - https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/nba-player-ratings/?player=Kyle%20Lowry&season=2022
Other advanced stats look good.
Is he worth 30 million? Clearly not. But still a pretty good player.
I should say not THAT good.
No not worth his money, probably worth half the money.
His role is valuable in the heat still so he definitely has impact
He's definitely worth half the money, cmon. That's just hyperbole.
I'm guessing his value is somewhere in the 19-23 range. (and clearly declining, I won't argue that).
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zimpy27 wrote:Duffman100 wrote:zimpy27 wrote:He was not good all season.
Huh? 13.5, 7.5 and 4.5 on 60% TS.
Solid Raptor Metrics - https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/nba-player-ratings/?player=Kyle%20Lowry&season=2022
Other advanced stats look good.
Is he worth 30 million? Clearly not. But still a pretty good player.
I should say not THAT good.
No not worth his money, probably worth half the money.
His role is valuable in the heat still so he definitely has impact
I do not watch the Heat as much as i do Toronto, but in the past Lowry could have averaged 10 and 6 and still had a massive positive impact because he makes winning plays all over the floor that do not show on the stat sheet. He was never a real 1st option, but he had the impact of one with everything he did.
So unless he suddenly has forgotten how to do all the little things, I do not think it is fair to look at box score stats and say he was not worth it. He is clearly injured, and unless he is never healthy again his contract really is not that bad.
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he has always been awful
Stop being so disrespectful.
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Duffman100 wrote:zimpy27 wrote:Duffman100 wrote:
Huh? 13.5, 7.5 and 4.5 on 60% TS.
Solid Raptor Metrics - https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/nba-player-ratings/?player=Kyle%20Lowry&season=2022
Other advanced stats look good.
Is he worth 30 million? Clearly not. But still a pretty good player.
I should say not THAT good.
No not worth his money, probably worth half the money.
His role is valuable in the heat still so he definitely has impact
He's definitely worth half the money, cmon. That's just hyperbole.
I'm guessing his value is somewhere in the 19-23 range. (and clearly declining, I won't argue that).
Nah he's not worth that. I'd say 14-17m
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zimpy27 wrote:Duffman100 wrote:zimpy27 wrote:
I should say not THAT good.
No not worth his money, probably worth half the money.
His role is valuable in the heat still so he definitely has impact
He's definitely worth half the money, cmon. That's just hyperbole.
I'm guessing his value is somewhere in the 19-23 range. (and clearly declining, I won't argue that).
Nah he's not worth that. I'd say 14-17m

The guys just above and just below him. I'm assuming if you averaged out those salaries you'd probably get a little higher than I estimated.
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He's fat. And he'll be 36 next season. Something of a problem for the Heat.
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But I thought RealGM said the Lakers missed out on him?
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The Laker Kid wrote:But I thought RealGM said the Lakers missed out on him?
1) They did
2) Nobody cares about your clown ass franchise
3) Who cares what an online forum says?
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Remember last year when Raptors fans were scolding other teams for not getting into a Lowry bidding war at the trade deadline?
Good times.
Good times.
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Mamba Mentality wrote:Realgm told me Lakers were stupid for not trading for Lowry. Now realgm is telling me that Lowry is a negative asset and washed.
Well he's clearly playing hurt and he is obviously past his prime but when healthy he is still a good player in this league. And wasn't the rumoured deal last year THT and filler for Kyle Lowry? If that's true that's literally absurd that the Lakers didn't do that. Would have likely got past the Suns had they have done it.
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Los_29 wrote:Mamba Mentality wrote:Realgm told me Lakers were stupid for not trading for Lowry. Now realgm is telling me that Lowry is a negative asset and washed.
Well he's clearly playing hurt and he is obviously past his prime but when healthy he is still a good player in this league. And wasn't the rumoured deal last year THT and filler for Kyle Lowry? If that's true that's literally absurd that the Lakers didn't do that. Would have likely got past the Suns had they have done it.
Over-rated by Raptors fans, he wasn't even the second best player on the Raptors championship team. That was Siakam, Kawhi saved Lowrys career.
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He's a million years old. Chris Paul and Lebron have tricked people into thinking players will be stars well into their 30s. Those 2 are the exception, not the rule.
For perspective, Kyle lowry is the same age as Lamarcus Aldrige, Carmelo Anthony, Marc Gasol, and 1 year younger than Deron Williams
For perspective, Kyle lowry is the same age as Lamarcus Aldrige, Carmelo Anthony, Marc Gasol, and 1 year younger than Deron Williams







