The Sixers and Joel Embiid’s Health

[nikster]

Disgusted by the national media. I can understand fans behaving as such but aren't they supppse to remain professional neutral instead of piling on and pressuring him to play. Smh

Embiid had been crying wolf each time he was supposed to play in Denver, with the biggest one coming last year at the height of the MVP race. So he was called out for the right reasons. No one is gonna take you seriously when the previous 5 years you have refused to play in Denver by pretending to be injured.

If he was injured which obviously he was then the 76ers should have forced him to sit and not be influenced by anyone else.

Two things can be right at the same time - the Sixers medical staff should have overruled Embiid last night and forced him to sit, and the Embiid haters can suck it for burying him Saturday.

The reason he probably wasn't on the injury list Saturday was that Embiid wanted to play, but was overruled by the med staff. Embiid is a prideful guy - most people who are at the pinnacle of their profession are. He knew he would get buried by everyone if he didn't play on Saturday, which was why he wasn't on the injury report. He didn't tell people he was hurt. He was going to give it a go. But the medical staff said no. Last night, Embiid had three days of everybody - including the national media - burying the crap out of him (Richard Jefferson calling him another name for a cat). The team was in a losing streak and were shorthanded...so he tried to go.

The medical staff could have - and should have - said no last night. But Embiid had enough of being buried.

By the way...still waiting for those apologies fron RealGM'ers who destroyed Embiid on Saturday. Lines are open.

Don't know why Embiid would fight against being listed as probable even if he was insisant on playing. If he could play he plays, but being pulled minutes before the game with no warning made the criticism much louder

[gobeklitepe]

The reason he probably wasn't on the injury list Saturday was that Embiid wanted to play, but was overruled by the med staff. Embiid is a prideful guy - most people who are at the pinnacle of their profession are. He knew he would get buried by everyone if he didn't play on Saturday, which was why he wasn't on the injury report. He didn't tell people he was hurt. He was going to give it a go. But the medical staff said no. Last night, Embiid had three days of everybody - including the national media - burying the crap out of him (Richard Jefferson calling him another name for a cat). The team was in a losing streak and were shorthanded...so he tried to go.

The medical staff could have - and should have - said no last night. But Embiid had enough of being buried.

By the way...still waiting for those apologies fron RealGM'ers who destroyed Embiid on Saturday. Lines are open.

It isn't very hard. If you're too hurt to play, don't play. If you are healthy enough to play - play. Or if you need to load manage, do it.

Can't make the decision for yourself whether or not it is more important to rest, for playoffs, a title, career longevity, etc? Is he really that easily swayed?

Fans? Why should they factor into your decision making? Especially when you're one of the world's best athletes making millions of dollars a year?

If you can't figure out a way to cope with fans and the media as a pro athlete, there are a lot of other jobs out there.

Embiid is a grown man who can make up his own mind, and should be able to express whether or not he is able to play. Doesn't seem to be the case according to a lot of this logic - he needs someone else to decide for him, whether it be media, fans, or 76ers staff.

[Sgt Major]

It's amazing how Sixers fans never blame Embiid.

Sixers losing - it's the coaching staff, Ben Simmons, the league for dismantling the Process crew, Tobias Harris and other players (and many of them were All-Stars), racist media, yada yada.

Now the fans of other teams and Twitter users are to be blamed? Are you serious? If Embiid cannot deal with the social media pressure, than he should deactivate his accounts.

How come Ben Simmons is labelled a coward and a loser because he's always injured and not the medical staff that decides who can play? Is Embiid a coward too then?

And all this because you cannot accept that he's the 2nd best center in the league. Do you understand how big is to be the 2nd best on the planet in what you do? Sixers fans put more pressure on that man than anyone else and if some fans are responsible for his head not being in the right place, it's them.

[bebopdeluxe]

The reason he probably wasn't on the injury list Saturday was that Embiid wanted to play, but was overruled by the med staff. Embiid is a prideful guy - most people who are at the pinnacle of their profession are. He knew he would get buried by everyone if he didn't play on Saturday, which was why he wasn't on the injury report. He didn't tell people he was hurt. He was going to give it a go. But the medical staff said no. Last night, Embiid had three days of everybody - including the national media - burying the crap out of him (Richard Jefferson calling him another name for a cat). The team was in a losing streak and were shorthanded...so he tried to go.

The medical staff could have - and should have - said no last night. But Embiid had enough of being buried.

By the way...still waiting for those apologies fron RealGM'ers who destroyed Embiid on Saturday. Lines are open.

It isn't very hard. If you're too hurt to play, don't play. If you are healthy enough to play - play. Or if you need to load manage, do it.

Can't make the decision for yourself whether or not it is more important to rest, for playoffs, a title, career longevity, etc? Is he really that easily swayed?

Fans? Why should they factor into your decision making? Especially when you're one of the world's best athletes making millions of dollars a year?

If you can't figure out a way to cope with fans and the media as a pro athlete, there are a lot of other jobs out there.

Embiid is a grown man who can make up his own mind, and should be able to express whether or not he is able to play. Doesn't seem to be the case according to a lot of this logic - he needs someone else to decide for him, whether it be media, fans, or 76ers staff.

This is all true. And of all people who should understand the challenges of playing in the NBA, Richard Jefferson is the last person in the media who should be calling Embiid a p@ssy.

Embiid is a prideful guy who got called out by a member of the brotherhood. It was stupid of him to respond and play, but I don't blame him for trying. It is up to the Sixers medical staff to step in and stop him from hurting himself.

[bebopdeluxe]

It's amazing how Sixers fans never blame Embiid.

Sixers losing - it's the coaching staff, Ben Simmons, the league for dismantling the Process crew, Tobias Harris and other players (and many of them were All-Stars), racist media, yada yada.

Now the fans of other teams and Twitter users are to be blamed? Are you serious? If Embiid cannot deal with the social media pressure, than he should deactivate his accounts.

How come Ben Simmons is labelled a coward and a loser because he's always injured and not the medical staff that decides who can play? Is Embiid a coward too then?

And all this because you cannot accept that he's the 2nd best center in the league. Do you understand how big is to be the 2nd best on the planet in what you do? Sixers fans put more pressure on that man than anyone else and if some fans are responsible for his head not being in the right place, it's them.

Nice job bring the whole Embiid-Jokic crap into this thread. Bye.

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

We’ll see.

Chris Haynes just said on the telecast that his priority is to be healthy for the playoffs and isn’t interested in the MVP.

His actions so far say otherwise. Staying in the game late into the 4th quarter against the Knicks while getting blown out wasn’t a good look.

Will be interesting to see how it plays out

Sixers fan here (I don't WANT TO FIGHT)...I'm just agreeing. He banged knees with Randle sometime in the 2nd quarter of that game IIRC. That should have been it once that happened. I remember they hit pretty hard and he got the worst of it. Ever since that happened it's been in/out of games. They need to sit him from now until he's 100%. The goal isn't to win it all this year anyway. The team along with Daryl Morey already knows that they aren't good enough this year to compete with the likes of Boston or Milwaukee in the East...Heck, I don't even know if they can beat Miami, NY, Cleveland, or Indy in a series.

[Exp0sed]

Sixers media pretty disgusted

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They can be disgusted all they want, the reality is Embiid is extremely injury prone and imo is also above his ideal weight. His playstyle is reckless to himself and to others, and his stamina issues dictate that he really shouldnt be handling high usage rs load. His body can't take it.

If he hadn't playee yesteday then he would have gotten injured a couple of games from now..or a few more after them. He's like a ticking time bomb, he has to be handled with kid gloves and on eggshells, he shouldnt play a single min more than he has to and in the rs i see no reason for him to play even 30 mins. 25-28 in shorter spurts is enough.

He's playing full quarters, the entire 1st and entire 3rd..in what world does that make sense for him?

Did AD teams really mismanage AD everytime he got injured? Nah, thats just who he is and thats ok, not everyone win the genetic lottery like LBJ

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[Woodsanity]

Yikes that looks terrible. Sorry eyeatoma and Sixers fans. Hope he gets right.

Respect, bro. You have been here a long time and I always respect your takes - even if you are a Celtics fan.



For the rest of the GB who f'k'n buried Embiid for not playing Saturday night (ducking Jokic again), it is crystal clear now that he was hurt, and as this Sam Amick report in The Athletic suggests, the reason he tried to play last night was because of how much the national media (and the folks here on the GB) was crushing the guy for not playing.

https://theathletic.com/5240548/2024/01/31/joel-embiid-knee-injury-nba-65-game-rule/?source=emp_shared_article

HE. WAS. HURT.

So, I will now see how many others are as classy as bisme and apologize for their brutal takes on the guy.

Disgusted by the national media. I can understand fans behaving as such but aren't they supppse to remain professional neutral instead of piling on and pressuring him to play. Smh

Embiid and his fans are just soft if this low level of criticism can get to him to that degree.

[ShootersShoot]

The nba should just remove the 65 game rule and tell voters to give amount of games played into consideration, which I am sure they do to some extent already.

But with so many players criticizing this rule, they need to realize it stems from them resting so many games throughout the season. The nba had to create measures against load management. If the teams and players had more integrity, the nba wouldnt have to try and make up dumb rules to get players to play.

[og15]

People love to knock Embiid for taking games off but maybe now people will see there was clearly a reason for it, he was never 100% healthy even going into this season.

I mean, if any of us were somehow unaware that the guy who missed the first two seasons of his career due to injury, misses 20-30 games every year and who has never played more than 68 games has serious injury issues that’s kind of an us problem.

It’s just what it is, maybe we should just accept it.

[dygaction]

MVP is such a meaningless stat.

How many MVPs did Kawhi win? 0. Finals MVPs? 2

I remember in 2019 he played 60/82 games and wasn't in the regular season mvp conversation....he didn't care

Embiid should have that mindset. Nurse gotta load manage this man cause he's their only shot at making a meaningful playoff run

The only thing that'll further embiids legacy right now are finals MVPs not regular season MVPs

Not like it did not mean anything, with 2 Finals MVPs where does Kawhi rank all time? Not top 20 band behind KG who has a regular season MVP not Finals MVP.

[Lalouie]

there isn't a thing going on today that is out of a superstar's control

[Chokic]

The nba should just remove the 65 game rule and tell voters to give amount of games played into consideration, which I am sure they do to some extent already.

But with so many players criticizing this rule, they need to realize it stems from them resting so many games throughout the season. The nba had to create measures against load management. If the teams and players had more integrity, the nba wouldnt have to try and make up dumb rules to get players to play.

It should be redacted. It's the nbas job to do their due diligence to follow up on players medical history evaluations. Embiids knee injury is a pretty serious one and well documented having missed two seasons since the beggining of his career. It's a miracle he even became the player he has become. Embiid should not be penalized the same as those who have no prior medical history and want to rest/recover from bumps/bruises/soreness.

Even tho this new rule had good intentions its now causing more harm than good as players are forced to play thru injuries which could set them back even further financially ans possibly shorten their careers.

[dygaction]

Not sure how you can say he ducked given how he just played though man. Two games off, and he looks horrible prior to Kuminga landing on him.

Read on Twitter

The man could not jump, and was doing 720s at one point so he wouldn't plant on that leg.

Yikes that looks terrible. Sorry eyeatoma and Sixers fans. Hope he gets right.

Respect, bro. You have been here a long time and I always respect your takes - even if you are a Celtics fan.



For the rest of the GB who f'k'n buried Embiid for not playing Saturday night (ducking Jokic again), it is crystal clear now that he was hurt, and as this Sam Amick report in The Athletic suggests, the reason he tried to play last night was because of how much the national media (and the folks here on the GB) was crushing the guy for not playing.

https://theathletic.com/5240548/2024/01/31/joel-embiid-knee-injury-nba-65-game-rule/?source=emp_shared_article

HE. WAS. HURT.

So, I will now see how many others are as classy as bisme and apologize for their brutal takes on the guy.

This victimhood is unnecessary. He is a supermax player winning tens of millions a year because of fans' attention. I have not seen any other fans come out demanding apology for MJ's flu shot, Kobe playing with a broken finger, or CP3's game 7 loss to Mavs for tight legs. Fans did not drag him on the floor or have access to his or medical staff's mind for playing or not on Saturday night.

Maybe what Embiid fans can do is to not chanting for him to prove best player in the world during regular season but pray he can pace it out for the playoffs.

[losmi]

The nba should just remove the 65 game rule and tell voters to give amount of games played into consideration, which I am sure they do to some extent already.

But with so many players criticizing this rule, they need to realize it stems from them resting so many games throughout the season. The nba had to create measures against load management. If the teams and players had more integrity, the nba wouldnt have to try and make up dumb rules to get players to play.

It should be redacted. It's the nbas job to do their due diligence to follow up on players medical history evaluations. Embiids knee injury is a pretty serious one and well documented having missed two seasons since the beggining of his career. It's a miracle he even became the player he has become. Embiid should not be penalized the same as those who have no prior medical history and want to rest/recover from bumps/bruises/soreness.

Even tho this new rule had good intentions its now causing more harm than good as players are forced to play thru injuries which could set them back even further financially ans possibly shorten their careers.

What forced him to play? He would have received his salary even if he had not played.

[Chokic]

The nba should just remove the 65 game rule and tell voters to give amount of games played into consideration, which I am sure they do to some extent already.

But with so many players criticizing this rule, they need to realize it stems from them resting so many games throughout the season. The nba had to create measures against load management. If the teams and players had more integrity, the nba wouldnt have to try and make up dumb rules to get players to play.

It should be redacted. It's the nbas job to do their due diligence to follow up on players medical history evaluations. Embiids knee injury is a pretty serious one and well documented having missed two seasons since the beggining of his career. It's a miracle he even became the player he has become. Embiid should not be penalized the same as those who have no prior medical history and want to rest/recover from bumps/bruises/soreness.

Even tho this new rule had good intentions its now causing more harm than good as players are forced to play thru injuries which could set them back even further financially ans possibly shorten their careers.

What forced him to play? He would have received his salary even if he had not played.

Social pressure by fans and media. The dude was legit injured prior to Denver game and everybody seemed to buy up the notion he wasn't hurt at all but was ducking jokic and avoiding playing in the altitude.

[Bum Adebayo]

It's evident this dude will never be healthy enough. It's worth noting he has far exceeded expectations (next Greg Oden) but obviously he is still injury prone, just not the "career ending" type of injury prone like many thought pre 2016.
We should trade him and rebuild, we are going nowhere with him as our best player.

[losmi]

It should be redacted. It's the nbas job to do their due diligence to follow up on players medical history evaluations. Embiids knee injury is a pretty serious one and well documented having missed two seasons since the beggining of his career. It's a miracle he even became the player he has become. Embiid should not be penalized the same as those who have no prior medical history and want to rest/recover from bumps/bruises/soreness.

Even tho this new rule had good intentions its now causing more harm than good as players are forced to play thru injuries which could set them back even further financially ans possibly shorten their careers.

What forced him to play? He would have received his salary even if he had not played.

Social pressure by fans and media. The dude was legit injured prior to Denver game and everybody seemed to buy up the notion he wasn't hurt at all but was ducking jokic and avoiding playing in the altitude.

So, you're saying that he played just to show everyone that he was really injured?

[Peregrine01]

Are people really complaining that the 65-game rule is why Embiid can't stay healthy? Newsflash: Embiid has NEVER stayed healthy even when he was load-managed.

[losmi]

Are people really complaining that the 65-game rule is why Embiid can't stay healthy? Newsflash: Embiid has NEVER stayed healthy even when he was load-managed.

They are complaining because they think Embiid should be allowed to play half the season and still get all the awards. That's the whole point, the awards.