Will NO regret not taking the Lakers offer?

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Will Pelicans regret not taking Lakers offer?

No. Boston offers Tatum/Brown/Picks+
124
24%
No. Lakers will still offer the same
114
22%
No. NY/LAC will pony up
97
18%
Yes. Boston will underbid
108
21%
Yes. Lakers might seek other options
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5%
Yes. Lakers will reduce the offer
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11%
 
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Re: Will NO regret not taking the Lakers offer? 

Post#181 » by ANTETOKOUNBROS » Fri Feb 8, 2019 1:43 am

zimpy27 wrote:All the people cheering when NO didn't take the offer from the Lakers will be the same ones laughing at NO if it turns out to be the best offer.


Yes but you are forgetting the value of the salt that Pels wanted to inflict on Lakers that they gained from denying AD to them, was likely tangible value to them.
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Re: Will NO regret not taking the Lakers offer? 

Post#182 » by michaelm » Fri Feb 8, 2019 2:19 am

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zimpy27 wrote:All the people cheering when NO didn't take the offer from the Lakers will be the same ones laughing at NO if it turns out to be the best offer.


Yes but you are forgetting the value of the salt that Pels wanted to inflict on Lakers that they gained from denying AD to them, was likely tangible value to them.

Their best option now may well be to tank, and I for one would consider them justified since this situation has been imposed on them rather than being of their own choosing. Why should they accept being a treadmill team which is basically what they are choosing if they accept the Lakers trade ?.
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Re: Will NO regret not taking the Lakers offer? 

Post#183 » by zimpy27 » Fri Feb 8, 2019 2:37 am

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zimpy27 wrote:All the people cheering when NO didn't take the offer from the Lakers will be the same ones laughing at NO if it turns out to be the best offer.


Yes but you are forgetting the value of the salt that Pels wanted to inflict on Lakers that they gained from denying AD to them, was likely tangible value to them.


What tangible thing did they get?
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Re: Will NO regret not taking the Lakers offer? 

Post#184 » by John Murdoch » Fri Feb 8, 2019 2:46 am

Curmudgeon wrote:The Lakers can and will make the same or even a better offer in July.

We are done making offers dude. We already double texted her ..no reply back. Its game over unless they come to us and hash things out we have to move to Beal , Kawhi , Klay
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Re: Will NO regret not taking the Lakers offer? 

Post#185 » by Ayt » Fri Feb 8, 2019 4:17 am

zimpy27 wrote:All the people cheering when NO didn't take the offer from the Lakers will be the same ones laughing at NO if it turns out to be the best offer.


What was the best offer from the Lakers? I can't laugh at NO if I don't know what the Lakers were offering.
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Re: Will NO regret not taking the Lakers offer? 

Post#186 » by michaelm » Fri Feb 8, 2019 4:20 am

zimpy27 wrote:
ANTETOKOUNBROS wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:All the people cheering when NO didn't take the offer from the Lakers will be the same ones laughing at NO if it turns out to be the best offer.


Yes but you are forgetting the value of the salt that Pels wanted to inflict on Lakers that they gained from denying AD to them, was likely tangible value to them.


What tangible thing did they get?

The chance to make their own choices/choose their own destiny rather than the destiny LA had wrought for LA pre-LeBron.
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Re: Will NO regret not taking the Lakers offer? 

Post#187 » by LBJKB24MJ23 » Fri Feb 8, 2019 4:20 am

they'll regret not taking siakam.
raf1995 wrote:I just don’t think he has that kind of potential. I think we will regret not trading him for a haul in a few years when he’s a mid-tier starter with nice playmaking and defense and a shaky jumper.
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Re: Will NO regret not taking the Lakers offer? 

Post#188 » by getitdone323 » Fri Feb 8, 2019 4:24 am

LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:they'll regret not taking siakam.


hes the most underrated player in this league. If Toronto makes it to the finals, his overall play will be a BIG reason why.
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Re: Will NO regret not taking the Lakers offer? 

Post#189 » by LBJKB24MJ23 » Fri Feb 8, 2019 4:28 am

getitdone323 wrote:
LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:they'll regret not taking siakam.


hes the most underrated player in this league. If Toronto makes it to the finals, his overall play will be a BIG reason why.


he's putting in work.

i think he comes back next year with a mid range jumper. he already did it against Vince today and it looked so natural. he's deadly from corner 3s so he needs to extend his range to the top of the 3 point line. and he has massive ball handling skills and court vision.

one the thing that separates him from other budding stars, he's willing to do the dirty work as well.
raf1995 wrote:I just don’t think he has that kind of potential. I think we will regret not trading him for a haul in a few years when he’s a mid-tier starter with nice playmaking and defense and a shaky jumper.
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Re: Will NO regret not taking the Lakers offer? 

Post#190 » by michaelm » Fri Feb 8, 2019 4:32 am

LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:they'll regret not taking siakam.

I agree.
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Re: Will NO regret not taking the Lakers offer? 

Post#191 » by dhsilv2 » Fri Feb 8, 2019 4:45 am

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zimpy27 wrote:All the people cheering when NO didn't take the offer from the Lakers will be the same ones laughing at NO if it turns out to be the best offer.


Better to take a calculated risk with a higher expected return. Even if this fails, they made the right choice.


If you look at history, you will see trade packages that go down in value as the rental period comes down. NO went from having 1.5 years to 1 year this summer and unless AD & dad change heart and mind, the Celtics will offer much less than what NO dream.

They will offer expensive over the hill player like Horford/Hayward, Smart and 6th man Brown plus 2-3 FRPs. Keeps you team average and treading water but no superstar potential.


There's truth to this, however the teams who are most likely to make a play haven't had the lottery play out yet. Their is a lack of information on what some of these picks will be and that plus again the possibility of a boston move. If they think the lakers were offering 25 cents on the dollar and they think there is a 60% chance the celtics can do 50 cents, then you have to risk it. it's just that simple. Throw int he knicks perhaps could do 30 or 40 cents. Maybe someone else now knowing they have all off season to figure things out could come up with a plan.

The lakers offer was good but I think it's legit to not think it was enough to drop the hammer.

This is a simple pricing model and waiting right now looks to have a higher expected return. Had AD made this push 2-3 months ago, I think he'd have been traded because it would have given teams more time to figure this out. He asked so late in the game that deals were too hard to make.
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Re: Will NO regret not taking the Lakers offer? 

Post#192 » by zimpy27 » Fri Feb 8, 2019 4:55 am

michaelm wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:
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Yes but you are forgetting the value of the salt that Pels wanted to inflict on Lakers that they gained from denying AD to them, was likely tangible value to them.


What tangible thing did they get?

The chance to make their own choices/choose their own destiny rather than the destiny LA had wrought for LA pre-LeBron.


That's not value gained by denying AD to Lakers. They still can choose that destiny.

That's also not tangible. I don't think I need to define the word tangible to you michael, of all people.
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Re: Will NO regret not taking the Lakers offer? 

Post#193 » by ANTETOKOUNBROS » Fri Feb 8, 2019 4:55 am

zimpy27 wrote:
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zimpy27 wrote:All the people cheering when NO didn't take the offer from the Lakers will be the same ones laughing at NO if it turns out to be the best offer.


Yes but you are forgetting the value of the salt that Pels wanted to inflict on Lakers that they gained from denying AD to them, was likely tangible value to them.


What tangible thing did they get?


They got to mess with the Lakers FO/LeBron/Klutch before trade deadline.
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Re: Will NO regret not taking the Lakers offer? 

Post#194 » by Mulhollanddrive » Fri Feb 8, 2019 4:57 am

They've messed around with them hoping they don't make playoffs and get a top 4 pick.

Rondo got in the way.
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Re: Will NO regret not taking the Lakers offer? 

Post#195 » by zimpy27 » Fri Feb 8, 2019 4:57 am

ANTETOKOUNBROS wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:
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Yes but you are forgetting the value of the salt that Pels wanted to inflict on Lakers that they gained from denying AD to them, was likely tangible value to them.


What tangible thing did they get?


They got to mess with the Lakers FO/LeBron/Klutch before trade deadline.


Tangible means that it is something that can be touched, hence my question.
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Re: Will NO regret not taking the Lakers offer? 

Post#196 » by ANTETOKOUNBROS » Fri Feb 8, 2019 4:59 am

zimpy27 wrote:
ANTETOKOUNBROS wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:
What tangible thing did they get?


They got to mess with the Lakers FO/LeBron/Klutch before trade deadline.


Tangible means that it is something that can be touched, hence my question.


To the Pelicans -- it's the satisfaction they felt that is the tangible thing they wanted. To them it's absolutely real.
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Re: Will NO regret not taking the Lakers offer? 

Post#197 » by ProfessorJM » Fri Feb 8, 2019 5:01 am

LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:they'll regret not taking siakam.


If they really could have gotten Siakim, OG and some solid other assets, that is a huge mistake to me. I'd rather have that than even Tatum and Boston's picks only one of which is really potentially that meaningful (Memphis pick).
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Re: Will NO regret not taking the Lakers offer? 

Post#198 » by zimpy27 » Fri Feb 8, 2019 5:01 am

ANTETOKOUNBROS wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:
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They got to mess with the Lakers FO/LeBron/Klutch before trade deadline.


Tangible means that it is something that can be touched, hence my question.


To the Pelicans -- it's the satisfaction they felt that is the tangible thing they wanted. To them it's absolutely real.


Again, if you can't touch it, it's not tangible. Doesn't matter if it's real or not.
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Re: Will NO regret not taking the Lakers offer? 

Post#199 » by ANTETOKOUNBROS » Fri Feb 8, 2019 5:03 am

zimpy27 wrote:
ANTETOKOUNBROS wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:
Tangible means that it is something that can be touched, hence my question.


To the Pelicans -- it's the satisfaction they felt that is the tangible thing they wanted. To them it's absolutely real.


Again, if you can't touch it, it's not tangible. Doesn't matter if it's real or not.


Are you sure?

https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/tangible

"Tangible is from Latin tangere "to touch," and it simply means something that can be touched or felt though it can be used in metaphorical senses: "tangible assets" have a value that can be precisely measured, and "tangible grief" can be clearly sensed by an onlooker. So you might not need to physically touch something for it to be tangible, but it has to be grounded in the real world of facts: "Has the teen pop star demonstrated any tangible ability to sing?"
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Re: Will NO regret not taking the Lakers offer? 

Post#200 » by LakersSoul » Fri Feb 8, 2019 5:12 am

dhsilv2 wrote:
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dhsilv2 wrote:
Better to take a calculated risk with a higher expected return. Even if this fails, they made the right choice.


If you look at history, you will see trade packages that go down in value as the rental period comes down. NO went from having 1.5 years to 1 year this summer and unless AD & dad change heart and mind, the Celtics will offer much less than what NO dream.

They will offer expensive over the hill player like Horford/Hayward, Smart and 6th man Brown plus 2-3 FRPs. Keeps you team average and treading water but no superstar potential.


There's truth to this, however the teams who are most likely to make a play haven't had the lottery play out yet. Their is a lack of information on what some of these picks will be and that plus again the possibility of a boston move. If they think the lakers were offering 25 cents on the dollar and they think there is a 60% chance the celtics can do 50 cents, then you have to risk it. it's just that simple. Throw int he knicks perhaps could do 30 or 40 cents. Maybe someone else now knowing they have all off season to figure things out could come up with a plan.

The lakers offer was good but I think it's legit to not think it was enough to drop the hammer.

This is a simple pricing model and waiting right now looks to have a higher expected return. Had AD made this push 2-3 months ago, I think he'd have been traded because it would have given teams more time to figure this out. He asked so late in the game that deals were too hard to make.


Fair enough but the Lakers went all- in and they are 100% sure it’s nit a rental.

Will others do the same when it’s 1 year left and doubt about a rental? The price is not Boogie or Butler type asset requirement but 100% of asset.

I don’t know if teams have those types of Balls.

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