The Sixers and Joel Embiid’s Health

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Re: The Sixers and Joel Embiid’s Health 

Post#181 » by bebopdeluxe » Wed Jan 31, 2024 9:57 pm

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This victimhood is unnecessary. He is a supermax player winning tens of millions a year because of fans' attention. I have not seen any other fans come out demanding apology for MJ's flu shot, Kobe playing with a broken finger, or CP3's game 7 loss to Mavs for tight legs. Fans did not drag him on the floor or have access to his or medical staff's mind for playing or not on Saturday night.

Maybe what Embiid fans can do is to not chanting for him to prove best player in the world during regular season but pray he can pace it out for the playoffs.


Richard Jefferson called him a "p@ssy" on social media. The entire basketball world dragged his azz for not playing on Saturday.

You are joking - right?


The entire nba and Embiid are paid by fans and media. With Embiid calling "see you in two weeks in Denver", no announcement before from him/coach/medical staff, and ABC covering, of course people are going to judge based on info available and be upset for no show. RJ and Perks have prepared to pump him up, you know that, if Embiid wins in Denver, but their two versions of homework turned to nothing burger and you blame them mad?

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Dude - this isn't that hard. I am sure he wanted to play. He knew the basketball world was pumping up the rematch. But he hurt his knee the prior Thursday in Indiana...the same knee that has bothered him for YEARS. I think he had every intention of going, and told the Sixers staff he intended to play (which is why he didn't show up on the injury report). But the medical staff didn't like the way he looked pregame. I bet there was a battle right up to the tip - before the medical folks said no.
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Re: The Sixers and Joel Embiid’s Health 

Post#182 » by eyeatoma » Wed Jan 31, 2024 9:59 pm

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eyeatoma wrote:There you have it...

As I said...Pressured by the community for their rabid nature.

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So he didn't feel pressure to actually play vs Denver. Where the real pressure was.

He wasn't even listed on the injury report... but then suddenly was OUT.

He then misses another game... which validated that he was injured.

And now some people will argue that finally he finally played because of pressure?

Embiid/Sixers had no problem sitting out a hyped game. That's fine, he was injured.

But then were forced "by social media" to play him against the Warriors? Did the social media warriors also forced him to stay in the game while he looked like he didnt move well?

Blaming social media is ridiculous. Sorry. Only Sixers/Doctors/Coaches/Embiid know and can decide whether he should or shouldnt play. They're the ones who look out for their interests and goals.



Obviously the Sixers were idiots for letting him play. But this is basic psychology 101. When everyone says what you're doing is questionable, and question whether you are actually hurt, it's human nature to want to prove them wrong. It's as simple as that.
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Re: The Sixers and Joel Embiid’s Health 

Post#183 » by Dirk » Wed Jan 31, 2024 10:01 pm

The other day I read some Sixers fans writing that they didn't understand why Embiid played in games where there was a blowout. They alleged that he was just looking to keep some kind of scoring streak going.

Who is to blame for that? Bisme? Chokic? AlexanderN? Realgm users? Reddit? Twitter?
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Re: The Sixers and Joel Embiid’s Health 

Post#184 » by phanman » Wed Jan 31, 2024 10:06 pm

Dirk wrote:The other day I read some Sixers fans writing that they didn't understand why Embiid played in games where there was a blowout. They alleged that he was just looking to keep some kind of scoring streak going.

Who is to blame for that? Bisme? Chokic? AlexanderN? Realgm users? Reddit? Twitter?

Those fans were correct, he had a 30+ pt streak going that ultimately ended yesterday at 22 games (5th in NBA history). The 30/10 streak ended earlier vs Denver. 8-)

None of which had anything to do with his recent injury I might add.
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Re: The Sixers and Joel Embiid’s Health 

Post#185 » by losmi » Wed Jan 31, 2024 10:09 pm

eyeatoma wrote:There you have it...

As I said...Pressured by the community for their rabid nature.

Read on Twitter


lol, he played injured just to chase awards, failed short and now he's blaming the whole world.

Is that the same article where his teammate, Paul Reed, says that Embiid is trying to get MVP again and that 65-game threshold adds a lot of pressure to him?
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Re: The Sixers and Joel Embiid’s Health 

Post#186 » by eyeatoma » Wed Jan 31, 2024 10:09 pm

losmi wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:There you have it...

As I said...Pressured by the community for their rabid nature.

Read on Twitter


lol, he played injured just to chase awards, failed short and now he's blaming the whole world.

Is that the same article where his teammate, Paul Reed, says that Embiid is trying to get MVP again and that 65-game threshold adds a lot of pressure to him?
It wasn't about awards this year. It was about the public discourse.

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Re: The Sixers and Joel Embiid’s Health 

Post#187 » by losmi » Wed Jan 31, 2024 10:13 pm

Shameless spin, but I wasn't expecting anything better from his PR after all these years.
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Re: The Sixers and Joel Embiid’s Health 

Post#188 » by Exp0sed » Wed Jan 31, 2024 10:17 pm

JustBuzzin wrote:I laugh when people question this dude sitting out games.

He's literally been having knee issues since he was drafted. Even played in the playoffs multiple times with knee issues.


Please stop questioning Embiid when it comes to sitting out games. He does it because he has to.


we're not questioning him, we're just sick of being force fed attention on a proffesional foul baiter that can't stay healthy to save his life. he'll be 30 in two months, he's never even made it past the second round - why are we talking about him so much?
why is getting MVP awards?

you wanna make it into a what if B-Roy \ Oden story that's fair enough. who knows how his career had turned out had he been less injury prone but..he is..that injury prone and that's certainly not gonna get better on the wrong side of 30 for a man his size

so how about talking more about the guys who might actually make it to June?
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Re: The Sixers and Joel Embiid’s Health 

Post#189 » by Exp0sed » Wed Jan 31, 2024 10:23 pm

eyeatoma wrote:
Dirk wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:There you have it...

As I said...Pressured by the community for their rabid nature.

Read on Twitter




Obviously the Sixers were idiots for letting him play. But this is basic psychology 101. When everyone says what you're doing is questionable, and question whether you are actually hurt, it's human nature to want to prove them wrong. It's as simple as that.


i honestly don't see what the big deal is. pro athletes (especially NBA players) play injured all the time.
usually, they play through injuries because they are competitive and determined to still be there for their teammates and want to beat their opponents. If that doesn't work on Embiid but instead he got motivated by the being clowned in the cyberspace, i'd say that a.) that's pretty pathetic for a grown adult with millons of dollars, world fame and influence, that's kinda like KD's burner accounts
and b.)why does it matter what motivated him? he was motivated and he played :)

does it matter if it was because he wanted to stick it out and give his teamates the best chance of winning or because he was trying to silence the naysayers and avoid more online clowning? the intent doesn't matter only the action
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Post#190 » by Nuntius » Wed Jan 31, 2024 10:27 pm

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Richard Jefferson called him a "p@ssy" on social media. The entire basketball world dragged his azz for not playing on Saturday.

You are joking - right?


The entire nba and Embiid are paid by fans and media. With Embiid calling "see you in two weeks in Denver", no announcement before from him/coach/medical staff, and ABC covering, of course people are going to judge based on info available and be upset for no show. RJ and Perks have prepared to pump him up, you know that, if Embiid wins in Denver, but their two versions of homework turned to nothing burger and you blame them mad?

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Dude - this isn't that hard. I am sure he wanted to play. He knew the basketball world was pumping up the rematch. But he hurt his knee the prior Thursday in Indiana...the same knee that has bothered him for YEARS. I think he had every intention of going, and told the Sixers staff he intended to play (which is why he didn't show up on the injury report). But the medical staff didn't like the way he looked pregame. I bet there was a battle right up to the tip - before the medical folks said no.


I do believe that Embiid got injured in our game. I mean, I did watch him fall down and hold his knee in pain live. But the Sixers (from the coaching to the training/medical staff) didn't really handle this correctly.

First of all, Embiid was never subbed out after the injury. The Sixers took a timeout, checked on Embiid during the timeout and decided that he was healthy enough to finish the half (4 and a half minutes remaining). The half came around, both teams headed to the locker room, they took another look at Embiid there and they decided that he was healthy enough to play the second half. And he did. In fact, he played the whole 3rd quarter. All 12 minutes of it (and I get it, that was probably due to the adrenaline). By the end of the 3rd, the game was a blowout and neither Embiid nor Maxey returned to the game. The Sixers never communicated that either Maxey or Embiid were held out of that 4th quarter due to injury (they both ended up missing the next game). People just assumed that they didn't play because the game was a blowout.

On top of all that, you have the injury report of the Denver game that didn't even include Embiid. He wasn't listed as questionable, probable or game-time decision. He wasn't listed at all which means that the expectation was that he would play. So, when it became known that he wouldn't play a few hours before the tip, people were naturally suspicious.

This whole situation was severely, severely mishandled by Philly.
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Re: The Sixers and Joel Embiid’s Health 

Post#191 » by zimpy27 » Wed Jan 31, 2024 10:31 pm

Sixers medical staff mishandling an injury, surely you jest
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Post#192 » by picc » Wed Jan 31, 2024 10:32 pm

This is why I don't care that he misses all these games and its stupid to think he's ducking anyone. This is a perpetually injured 7ft+ player, the smart thing to do is be as prudent and cautious as possible about his health and not give a damn what entitled fans think.
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Post#193 » by bisme37 » Wed Jan 31, 2024 10:33 pm

Dirk wrote:The other day I read some Sixers fans writing that they didn't understand why Embiid played in games where there was a blowout. They alleged that he was just looking to keep some kind of scoring streak going.

Who is to blame for that? Bisme? Chokic? AlexanderN? Realgm users? Reddit? Twitter?


Yeah this morning I was admitting that (imo) lots of us were ridiculous ripping on Joel so much for missing the Denver game now that it's beyond clear he was/is injured.

But trying to blame social media and RGM posters for this situation is also ridiculous, and embarrassing.

Everyone with eyeballs saw that he shouldn't have been playing last night. Do the Sixers medical staff and coach Nick Nurse not have eyeballs?

It's their's and Embiid's responsibility to manage his injuries and make decisions on if and when he should play. Whatever is going on in their minds, their handling of this has been borderline malpractice and it's no one else's fault.
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Re: The Sixers and Joel Embiid’s Health 

Post#194 » by QPR » Wed Jan 31, 2024 10:36 pm

eyeatoma wrote:
losmi wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:There you have it...

As I said...Pressured by the community for their rabid nature.

Read on Twitter


lol, he played injured just to chase awards, failed short and now he's blaming the whole world.

Is that the same article where his teammate, Paul Reed, says that Embiid is trying to get MVP again and that 65-game threshold adds a lot of pressure to him?
It wasn't about awards this year. It was about the public discourse.

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Post#195 » by Chokic » Wed Jan 31, 2024 10:38 pm

picc wrote:This is why I don't care that he misses all these games and its stupid to think he's ducking anyone. This is a perpetually injured 7ft+ player, the smart thing to do is be as prudent and cautious as possible about his health and not give a damn what entitled fans think.




It's a miracle that Embiid even carved out the career that he did considering he missed beginning of two seasons in his career. He could have easily ended up another Greg Oden.
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Re: The Sixers and Joel Embiid’s Health 

Post#196 » by eyeatoma » Wed Jan 31, 2024 10:47 pm

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Dirk wrote:The other day I read some Sixers fans writing that they didn't understand why Embiid played in games where there was a blowout. They alleged that he was just looking to keep some kind of scoring streak going.

Who is to blame for that? Bisme? Chokic? AlexanderN? Realgm users? Reddit? Twitter?


Yeah this morning I was admitting that (imo) lots of us were ridiculous ripping on Joel so much for missing the Denver game now that it's beyond clear he was/is injured.

But trying to blame social media and RGM posters for this situation is also ridiculous, and embarrassing.

Everyone with eyeballs saw that he shouldn't have been playing last night. Do the Sixers medical staff and coach Nick Nurse not have eyeballs?

It's their's and Embiid's responsibility to manage his injuries and make decisions on if and when he should play. Whatever is going on in their minds, their handling of this has been borderline malpractice and it's no one else's fault.
Problem with that is the ducking allegations won't stop. Embiid is damned if he does or doesn't.

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Re: The Sixers and Joel Embiid’s Health 

Post#197 » by bisme37 » Wed Jan 31, 2024 10:56 pm

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Dirk wrote:The other day I read some Sixers fans writing that they didn't understand why Embiid played in games where there was a blowout. They alleged that he was just looking to keep some kind of scoring streak going.

Who is to blame for that? Bisme? Chokic? AlexanderN? Realgm users? Reddit? Twitter?


Yeah this morning I was admitting that (imo) lots of us were ridiculous ripping on Joel so much for missing the Denver game now that it's beyond clear he was/is injured.

But trying to blame social media and RGM posters for this situation is also ridiculous, and embarrassing.

Everyone with eyeballs saw that he shouldn't have been playing last night. Do the Sixers medical staff and coach Nick Nurse not have eyeballs?

It's their's and Embiid's responsibility to manage his injuries and make decisions on if and when he should play. Whatever is going on in their minds, their handling of this has been borderline malpractice and it's no one else's fault.
Problem with that is the ducking allegations won't stop. Embiid is damned if he does or doesn't.

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If what people said on the internet bothered me so much I think I'd do myself a favor and take a break from the internet.

There are more important things, in life in general but also in sports. The fact the people have opinions and say bothersome things should not impact the decisions made by a pro sports team when it comes to the health of their franchise player.

And I know you think the other 98% of people around here are the cause of this "toxic" discourse when it comes to Embiid, but I swear, every time it seems like things are settling down you show up and say something 98% of people think is ridiculous and it starts all over again. I really think you'd have a better day if you just let these threads die instead of responding to every other post and introducing new things for people to roll their eyes at. Just my take.
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Re: The Sixers and Joel Embiid’s Health 

Post#198 » by dygaction » Wed Jan 31, 2024 11:03 pm

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Richard Jefferson called him a "p@ssy" on social media. The entire basketball world dragged his azz for not playing on Saturday.

You are joking - right?


The entire nba and Embiid are paid by fans and media. With Embiid calling "see you in two weeks in Denver", no announcement before from him/coach/medical staff, and ABC covering, of course people are going to judge based on info available and be upset for no show. RJ and Perks have prepared to pump him up, you know that, if Embiid wins in Denver, but their two versions of homework turned to nothing burger and you blame them mad?

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Dude - this isn't that hard. I am sure he wanted to play. He knew the basketball world was pumping up the rematch. But he hurt his knee the prior Thursday in Indiana...the same knee that has bothered him for YEARS. I think he had every intention of going, and told the Sixers staff he intended to play (which is why he didn't show up on the injury report). But the medical staff didn't like the way he looked pregame. I bet there was a battle right up to the tip - before the medical folks said no.


Dude, then what are you complaining about. It was purely mishandled between him, his coaching, medical staff, and team. Nothing to blame on fans or media. You are expected to play on the hyped up match between formal and reigning MVPs IF you are not even on watch list. This coupled with no Denver play several years in a row...
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Re: The Sixers and Joel Embiid’s Health 

Post#199 » by eyeatoma » Wed Jan 31, 2024 11:03 pm

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Yeah this morning I was admitting that (imo) lots of us were ridiculous ripping on Joel so much for missing the Denver game now that it's beyond clear he was/is injured.

But trying to blame social media and RGM posters for this situation is also ridiculous, and embarrassing.

Everyone with eyeballs saw that he shouldn't have been playing last night. Do the Sixers medical staff and coach Nick Nurse not have eyeballs?

It's their's and Embiid's responsibility to manage his injuries and make decisions on if and when he should play. Whatever is going on in their minds, their handling of this has been borderline malpractice and it's no one else's fault.
Problem with that is the ducking allegations won't stop. Embiid is damned if he does or doesn't.

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If what people said on the internet bothered me so much I think I'd do myself a favor and take a break from the internet.

There are more important things, in life in general but also in sports. The fact the people have opinions and say bothersome things should not impact the decisions made by a pro sports team when it comes to the health of their franchise player.

And I know you think the other 98% of people around here are the cause of this "toxic" discourse when it comes to Embiid, but I swear, every time it seems like things are settling down you show up and say something 98% of people think is ridiculous and it starts all over again. I really think you'd have a better day if you just let these threads die instead of responding to every post and introducing new things for people to roll their eyes at. Just my take.
I'm not the only one saying this lol. The Athletic had an article talking about the public pressure.

Hard for him to ignore this when you have Nuggets reporters asking Nurse if Joel skipping games is a result of his character.

This is the media as well. In post game...

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Re: The Sixers and Joel Embiid’s Health 

Post#200 » by RB34 » Wed Jan 31, 2024 11:05 pm

bebopdeluxe wrote:
dygaction wrote:
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Richard Jefferson called him a "p@ssy" on social media. The entire basketball world dragged his azz for not playing on Saturday.

You are joking - right?


The entire nba and Embiid are paid by fans and media. With Embiid calling "see you in two weeks in Denver", no announcement before from him/coach/medical staff, and ABC covering, of course people are going to judge based on info available and be upset for no show. RJ and Perks have prepared to pump him up, you know that, if Embiid wins in Denver, but their two versions of homework turned to nothing burger and you blame them mad?

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Dude - this isn't that hard. I am sure he wanted to play. He knew the basketball world was pumping up the rematch. But he hurt his knee the prior Thursday in Indiana...the same knee that has bothered him for YEARS. I think he had every intention of going, and told the Sixers staff he intended to play (which is why he didn't show up on the injury report). But the medical staff didn't like the way he looked pregame. I bet there was a battle right up to the tip - before the medical folks said no.


If this is the case why didn’t the medical staff stop him from playing against the Warriors? Is looked bad from the start. Did he overrule them? Did the coach?

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