It's been 5 yrs. Can we now say Andrew Wiggins is a Bust?

[Foye]

I am at the point where I will rather watch the dead corpse of Luol Deng start.

[13th Man]

How much of the blame do we give Minneosta for failing to develop Wiggins? And how much of it is on Wiggins?

I mean is there any doubt for example that if Sean Marks and Kenny Atkinson got 5 years of Wiggins that they would have gotten more out of him than the Wolves did? (Not saying it'd be a surefire home run he'd realize his potential as this isn't ALL on the Wolves and Wiggins is partially to blame, but it's interesting to discuss just what the split of culpability is)

I don't blame Minny for falling for hype by drafting him but I blame them big time for handing out the max extension. They should have known that his work ethics is focused more on playing video games then it is improving his game.

[kuclas]

He’s a overall #1 draft pick bust. But he’s not a bust. If he had been say number 15 overall pick. Being paid say 8 million a year with his extension. People wouldn’t say anything.

[og15]

His perception lies on his max contract

It isn’t his fault Minny was dumb enough to max him

He’s not very good without the max contract factored in either. He shoots a lot inefficiently. He really literally does nothing else at a higher level than “poor.” And he hasn’t improved since a real minor bump after his rookie season.

Only thing I can think of is that maybe if he's making less, then the expectations are lowered, so he's molded into a lesser role that might maximize his positives and minimize his negatives?

[Foye]

How much of the blame do we give Minneosta for failing to develop Wiggins? And how much of it is on Wiggins?

I mean is there any doubt for example that if Sean Marks and Kenny Atkinson got 5 years of Wiggins that they would have gotten more out of him than the Wolves did? (Not saying it'd be a surefire home run he'd realize his potential as this isn't ALL on the Wolves and Wiggins is partially to blame, but it's interesting to discuss just what the split of culpability is)

I don't blame Minny for falling for hype by drafting him but I blame them big time for handing out the max extension. They should have known that his work ethics is focused more on playing video games then it is improving his game.

We never drafted him but yeah...his work ethic is poor.

[enigmatics]

Never understood the hype to begin with.

[sean1913]

yes. undoubtedly.. he was the #1 pick!!!!! and could have had his run of that MIN team as the alpha kid! he is NOT going to be a great player and as a number one pick if you don't turn into a great player then you are by def a bust. he is on a MAX contract and while he didn't offer it to himself, it creates another layer of expectation that he will NEVER live up to. 18PPG IS FINE but all the intangibles say he's not great. there's no argument here.

[mplsfonz23]

A bust isn't capable of putting up 20PPG over 5 seasons. Wiggins is just criminally overpaid.

His FGA per game is almost equal to his PPG. Dude is flat out trash(bust) if you take into account that he was picked first and the hype that surrounded him.

Yeah but a bust is generally someone who isn't even good enough to be in the league.

Look at Bennet, Thabeet, Vesley, Bender, and other top 10 picks who aren't even in the league anymore. They're not in the same category as Wiggins.

I agree. He was thrust into the #1 pick and had Embiid been healthy he might have been in a different position. #3 IMO.
Funny how most people that call him a bust are looking at stats. He doesn't look that good in game either, but I wouldn't lable him a bust. He's just getting more attention because of that contract. How many team would love to have him if he had a smaller contract? If he was making 14-18 million per, we wouldn't even have a thread like this. (Every week.)

[Bornstellar]

This guy had so much hype coming into the league. I remember when people were claiming him to be Canada's Jordan in that respect he is a bust. Yeah he can put up 20ppg on terrible efficiency while doing nothing else on the floor. Definitely a bust to me

[NBAFan93]

He didn’t look like a bust when he was scoring 30 and 40 points against OKC this season. I think he’s just wildly inconsistent like a lot of these younger guys. He’s overpaid yes, but I don’t think Minny is the only team that would have given him that contract at the time.

[sixerswillrule]

A bust isn't capable of putting up 20PPG over 5 seasons. Wiggins is just criminally overpaid.

His FGA per game is almost equal to his PPG. Dude is flat out trash(bust) if you take into account that he was picked first and the hype that surrounded him.

Yeah but a bust is generally someone who isn't even good enough to be in the league.

Look at Bennet, Thabeet, Vesley, Bender, and other top 10 picks who aren't even in the league anymore. They're not in the same category as Wiggins.

But that should depend on expectations. Obviously there was a huge difference in what was expected from those guys vs. Wiggins. I mean if Wiggins as a general consensus #1 pick in his draft is a borderline top 100 NBA player, you don't think that's a bust?

[Rookie-Mistake]

Yep, I Lu has been amazing to watch from a contract/output perspective

I am at the point where I will rather watch the dead corpse of Luol Deng start.

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[bstein14]

He should be on a 4 year $40-$50 million type deal and be a 3rd or 4th options scoring 14 to 15 a night and he'd be ok. He's not worthy of a top pick but he also isn't a complete bust like a Darko type pick. He's like a slightly less efficient Glen Robinson who I always thought was an empty stats type player.

[TheAlchemist]

Gee , Kwame Brown and Andrea Bargnani where not relevant to you I see.

No he's not a bust,

in fact I think he can improve in the right system / under the right coach.

But yes, he's way way way overpaid.

[playoffs]

How much of the blame do we give Minneosta for failing to develop Wiggins? And how much of it is on Wiggins?

I mean is there any doubt for example that if Sean Marks and Kenny Atkinson got 5 years of Wiggins that they would have gotten more out of him than the Wolves did? (Not saying it'd be a surefire home run he'd realize his potential as this isn't ALL on the Wolves and Wiggins is partially to blame, but it's interesting to discuss just what the split of culpability is)

I don't know how he would do as a player under Sean Marks and Kenny Atkinson, but the one thing I know for sure is that you would be starting multiple threads with "Andrew BIG-GUNS" or some other weird nickname in the title.

[Quentin]

I wouldn't call him a bust. He's overpaid by A LOT. Unfortunate for Minnesota but Glen Taylor is a complete buffoon of an owner.

Funny how Minn won their last 2 games without him and they looked really good. When he plays it changes the offense to iso and it's terrible. Wiggins thinks he's the man so pumps up a bunch of shots out of the flow of the offense. He should be the guy coming off the bench in that 6th spot.

[life_saver]

48% TS is just terrible

[SlowPaced]

Not a bust, but he's been a major disappointment. And outrageously overpaid.

[Forbes]

Not a bust, but he was overhyped and has all the tools to be great except for the drive to be great. But he’s an NBA player with a career avg of about 20 empty ppg that about it.

[mplsfonz23]

His FGA per game is almost equal to his PPG. Dude is flat out trash(bust) if you take into account that he was picked first and the hype that surrounded him.

Yeah but a bust is generally someone who isn't even good enough to be in the league.

Look at Bennet, Thabeet, Vesley, Bender, and other top 10 picks who aren't even in the league anymore. They're not in the same category as Wiggins.

But that should depend on expectations. Obviously there was a huge difference in what was expected from those guys vs. Wiggins. I mean if Wiggins as a general consensus #1 pick in his draft is a borderline top 100 NBA player, you don't think that's a bust?

Yeah but he wasn't the consensus #1. Embiid was going to be the first pick before the injury and Philly still took him 3rd overall. Wiggins and Parker were neck and neck for the #1 after that. And if you want to call Wiggins a bust, then why are we not talking about Parker? How many teams has he been on now.
Put money out of the picture, and look at the overall body of work, games actually PLAYED, and age, I think he still has time to grow into a better player. He's only 23 soon to be 24, how many players are in there prime at that age. Hell the pressure we put on 19 year olds now is ridiculous. I remember players stayed in college longer and looked better doing it. He's missed 3 games his entire career including the last 2, is playing improved D this year, and is working on his overall game.
His motor is his biggest enemy.