[Shams/MiketheKid/BVB24] Dejounte Murray 4/64 Mil Fully Guaranteed

Post #21 » by **G R E Y** » Mon Oct 21, 2019 9:05 pm

WHAT A STEAL! YEEEAAASSS!!!

Post #22 » by **zimpy27** » Mon Oct 21, 2019 9:07 pm

Spurs are so good at this NBA roster management thing

Bornstellar · Post #23 » by **Bornstellar** » Mon Oct 21, 2019 9:09 pm

zimpy27 wrote:Spurs are so good at this NBA roster management thing

Aside from that mind boggling Gasol contract and the 12:01am Mills signing i agree :lol:

BVB24 · Post #24 » by **BVB24** » Mon Oct 21, 2019 9:10 pm

GhostOfChicago wrote:How has he looked since returning from injury?

Even better than before. He worked hard on his jumper and it has improved considerably. He’s looked good for the most part in preseason.

Watch on YouTube

Repeat 3-peat · Post #25 » by **Repeat 3-peat** » Mon Oct 21, 2019 9:13 pm

BVB24 wrote:
GhostOfChicago wrote:How has he looked since returning from injury?

Even better than before. He worked hard on his jumper and it has improved considerably. He’s looked god for the most part in preseason.

Watch on YouTube

Good to know, talented player.

timO · Post #26 » by **timO** » Mon Oct 21, 2019 9:33 pm

Risky move for both sides, if Dejounte can stay healthy he lost money here, if he relapses Spurs are the loser.

LightTheBeam · Post #27 » by **LightTheBeam** » Mon Oct 21, 2019 9:47 pm

I know this kid gets hyped on Realgm a lot, but I'm not a fan of this contract.

1 real year of playing, incapable of shooting 3s, 2.9/1.7 ast-turn ration. Great defensive player, awful offensive player.

Couple this with the fact hes coming off a major injury. I have no idea how he was worth 16 million per year.

Always liked him, hope he proves me wrong and becomes somewhat of an offensive threat.

Bornstellar · Post #28 » by **Bornstellar** » Mon Oct 21, 2019 9:49 pm

He's been hitting three pointers and jump shots at a solid rate so far in preseason. It looks like he really has put in the work to improve his game, something not all players do. Considering Brown's deal, this is an absolute bargain

Bigfactsstackz · Post #29 » by **Bigfactsstackz** » Mon Oct 21, 2019 9:52 pm

RipPizzaGuy wrote:I know this kid gets hyped on Realgm a lot, but I'm not a fan of this contract.

1 real year of playing, incapable of shooting 3s, 2.9/1.7 ast-turn ration. Great defensive player, awful offensive player.

Couple this with the fact hes coming off a major injury. I have no idea how he was worth 16 million per year.

Always liked him, hope he proves me wrong and becomes somewhat of an offensive threat.

His jumper has improved significantly that won’t be an issue for him anymore

SK21209 · Post #30 » by **SK21209** » Mon Oct 21, 2019 9:55 pm

I'm very confused as to why people think the Spurs are falling out of the playoffs. Murray/White may be the best defensive backcourt in the league and Walker looked like the best prospect in summer league imo. I have them as the sixth seed, particularly if they could get some forward help in exchange for DeRozan (although it looks like they'll extend him).

Bornstellar · Post #31 » by **Bornstellar** » Mon Oct 21, 2019 10:06 pm

SK21209 wrote:I'm very confused as to why people think the Spurs are falling out of the playoffs. Murray/White may be the best defensive backcourt in the league and Walker looked like the best prospect in summer league imo. I have them as the sixth seed, particularly if they could get some forward help in exchange for DeRozan (although it looks like they'll extend him).

Looks like he didn't sign an extension and will become a FA if he opts out after this year. Can't see these Spurs signing him to a max deal and I'm sure some desperate team will offer it

GusT15 · Post #32 » by **GusT15** » Mon Oct 21, 2019 10:08 pm

RipPizzaGuy wrote:I know this kid gets hyped on Realgm a lot, but I'm not a fan of this contract.

1 real year of playing, incapable of shooting 3s, 2.9/1.7 ast-turn ration. Great defensive player, awful offensive player.

Couple this with the fact hes coming off a major injury. I have no idea how he was worth 16 million per year.

Always liked him, hope he proves me wrong and becomes somewhat of an offensive threat.

I can see your point of view and understand your doubts about if he can develop a solid offensive game.

But i'd like you to try and imagine watching Patty Mills,Bryn Forbes,DeMar DeRozan and Marco Belinelli "trying" to play perimeter defense for a whole season.

Do you still think $16M per is too much for a 23 year old who by all reports has a high work rate and All NBA Defense ability?

Not every team has the chance to draft a De'Aaron Fox when they are drafting in the 20-30 range.

(And even under that prism,when Fox gets paid $32M per in 2 years time,won't that make Murray's contract a fair value?)

Anti Chalmers · Post #33 » by **Anti Chalmers** » Mon Oct 21, 2019 10:37 pm

Nowadays 15 mil a year for a solid young player with good potential is a great deal.

Post #34 » by **G R E Y** » Mon Oct 21, 2019 10:46 pm

Bigfactsstackz wrote:
RipPizzaGuy wrote:I know this kid gets hyped on Realgm a lot, but I'm not a fan of this contract.

1 real year of playing, incapable of shooting 3s, 2.9/1.7 ast-turn ration. Great defensive player, awful offensive player.

Couple this with the fact hes coming off a major injury. I have no idea how he was worth 16 million per year.

Always liked him, hope he proves me wrong and becomes somewhat of an offensive threat.

His jumper has improved significantly that won’t be an issue for him anymore

Shhhh... Let them think just what they do... :wink:

Bornstellar wrote:
SK21209 wrote:I'm very confused as to why people think the Spurs are falling out of the playoffs. Murray/White may be the best defensive backcourt in the league and Walker looked like the best prospect in summer league imo. I have them as the sixth seed, particularly if they could get some forward help in exchange for DeRozan (although it looks like they'll extend him).

Looks like he didn't sign an extension and will become a FA if he opts out after this year. Can't see these Spurs signing him to a max deal and I'm sure some desperate team will offer it

DeMar's term is different. We have until June 30th to work out an extension with him if that's what both sides want.

vxmike · Post #35 » by **vxmike** » Mon Oct 21, 2019 10:50 pm

RipPizzaGuy wrote:I know this kid gets hyped on Realgm a lot, but I'm not a fan of this contract.

1 real year of playing, incapable of shooting 3s, 2.9/1.7 ast-turn ration. Great defensive player, awful offensive player.

Couple this with the fact hes coming off a major injury. I have no idea how he was worth 16 million per year.

Always liked him, hope he proves me wrong and becomes somewhat of an offensive threat.

I agree with you. This is a lot of money for pure potential.

vxmike · Post #36 » by **vxmike** » Mon Oct 21, 2019 10:52 pm

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SK21209 wrote:I'm very confused as to why people think the Spurs are falling out of the playoffs. Murray/White may be the best defensive backcourt in the league and Walker looked like the best prospect in summer league imo. I have them as the sixth seed, particularly if they could get some forward help in exchange for DeRozan (although it looks like they'll extend him).

I don’t think they’ll miss the playoffs but it’s a quick first round exit. Who is spacing the floor? Most of their top rotation guys are either poor shooters or kings of the mid range.

dorkestra · Post #37 » by **dorkestra** » Mon Oct 21, 2019 10:52 pm

Great contract for him. Even if he doesn't improve much, the deal can be stomached. If he improves, which seems likely, it's all gravy. Congrats Spurs fans.

Triples333 · Post #38 » by **Triples333** » Mon Oct 21, 2019 10:58 pm

ClipsFanSince98 wrote:Well worth the risk. Really nice young 2 way player. I'd rather have him than Jamal Murray for example, who got a way bigger contract.

He's a special defender but I can't get on board with a point guard that is so tragic as a shooter, and really does not have any playmaking chops to speak of. Add in the injury scare and there's no way a team would want him over Jamal. I get that his contract is a concern but at least it hits while Jamal enters his prime.

That said, if anyone can figure out a way to make Dejounte a playable asset offensively, it's San Antonio. I just have my concerns that he can be a net negative in the playoffs against certain matchups (teams that don't rely on dominant guard play like the Lakers, Bucks, Sixers, Mavs, etc). But he's definitely a pest defensively against the rest.

russ00 · Post #39 » by **russ00** » Mon Oct 21, 2019 11:01 pm

Anti Chalmers wrote:Nowadays 15 mil a year for a solid young player with good potential is a great deal.

After Brown's contract 15 mil for Murray seems like a great deal

Bigfactsstackz · Post #40 » by **Bigfactsstackz** » Mon Oct 21, 2019 11:02 pm

Triples333 wrote:
ClipsFanSince98 wrote:Well worth the risk. Really nice young 2 way player. I'd rather have him than Jamal Murray for example, who got a way bigger contract.

He's a special defender but I can't get on board with a point guard that is so tragic as a shooter, and really does not have any playmaking chops to speak of. Add in the injury scare and there's no way a team would want him over Jamal. I get that his contract is a concern but at least it hits while Jamal enters his prime.

That said, if anyone can figure out a way to make Dejounte a playable asset offensively, it's San Antonio. I just have my concerns that he can be a net negative in the playoffs against certain matchups (teams that don't rely on dominant guard play like the Lakers, Bucks, Sixers, Mavs, etc). But he's definitely a pest defensively against the rest.

It’s almost like the spurs staff isn’t known to improve a players jump shot :crazy:

and it’s already paid off with him

How do you rate this deal?