Best key piece for Ben Simmons?

Case2012 · Post #21 » by **Case2012** » Thu Oct 14, 2021 4:31 pm

McCollum missing from the poll conspicuously...

Lalouie · Post #22 » by **Lalouie** » Thu Oct 14, 2021 4:32 pm

kyrie
straight up
no math required

Effigy · Post #23 » by **Effigy** » Thu Oct 14, 2021 4:37 pm

Wow, CJ McCollum looking REAL good right about now.

Effigy · Post #24 » by **Effigy** » Thu Oct 14, 2021 4:39 pm

Lalouie wrote:kyrie
straight up
no math required

I doubt either team wants to do that. Simmons isn't a great fit in Brooklyn and they don't want to make Phily better. They would rather see them trade him for Brogdan or something.

Philly, while they don't have that law NOW, they probably will have it soon, so what would be the point? Kyrie needs to go to some backwards place that thinks the virus is a hoax like Florida. They are NEVER passing that law.

CIN-C-STAR · Post #25 » by **CIN-C-STAR** » Thu Oct 14, 2021 4:47 pm

These are all terrible trade packages.
If those are really the offers no wonder Morey is dragging this out. I wouldn't trade Simmons for any of that either.

bebopdeluxe · Post #26 » by **bebopdeluxe** » Thu Oct 14, 2021 4:55 pm

Effigy wrote:Wow, CJ McCollum looking REAL good right about now.

My guy, your team just lost by a fifty-burger. How good did he look against the Suns?

We'll check back with you in December, and see how REAL good McCollum looks.

Effigy · Post #27 » by **Effigy** » Thu Oct 14, 2021 5:02 pm

bebopdeluxe wrote:
Effigy wrote:Wow, CJ McCollum looking REAL good right about now.

My guy, your team just lost by a fifty-burger. How good did he look against the Suns?

We'll check back with you in December, and see how REAL good McCollum looks.

It always floors me when people act like pre season means ANYTHING. But hey, by all means, trade him for D'Angelo Russell or Buddy Hield. Those guys didn't lose a pre season game by 50 so they're probably much better players.

dickfox · Post #28 » by **dickfox** » Thu Oct 14, 2021 5:07 pm

Brogdon and Lavert make the most sense for Philly. They would fit in so nicely with embiid and harris.

Madhouse · Post #29 » by **Madhouse** » Thu Oct 14, 2021 5:07 pm

none of these packages are enticing.

DusterBuster · Post #30 » by **DusterBuster** » Thu Oct 14, 2021 5:15 pm

sixers4real wrote:Neither. Morey will find better then that.

I'm skeptical of that... I think the offers are going to continue to be below what Morey (and Sixer fans) thinks it should be for a good while, maybe forever, and he's just gonna end up keeping Simmons instead of trading him.

bebopdeluxe · Post #31 » by **bebopdeluxe** » Thu Oct 14, 2021 5:27 pm

Effigy wrote:
bebopdeluxe wrote:
Effigy wrote:Wow, CJ McCollum looking REAL good right about now.

My guy, your team just lost by a fifty-burger. How good did he look against the Suns?

We'll check back with you in December, and see how REAL good McCollum looks.

It always floors me when people act like pre season means ANYTHING. But hey, by all means, trade him for D'Angelo Russell or Buddy Hield. Those guys didn't lose a pre season game by 50 so they're probably much better players.

That's fine. Obviously the Suns game means nothing. I just find it laughable that a Blazers fan would be flexing right now about CJ McCollum...but hey, maybe I am wrong. I will be happy to come back to the GB in December when the Blazers are a top-4 seed in the West and CJ is DEALING.

See you then.

bebopdeluxe · Post #32 » by **bebopdeluxe** » Thu Oct 14, 2021 5:29 pm

dickfox wrote:Brogdon and Lavert make the most sense for Philly. They would fit in so nicely with embiid and harris.

In theory, this is a solid trade. In reality, both of these guys are on the IR ALL THE TIME. Isn't Brogdon hurt AGAIN?

Post #33 » by **jazzfan1971** » Thu Oct 14, 2021 5:29 pm

Jazz probably not interested in having 2 non shooters, but let's say they had confidence in their coaching staff enough to gamble.

Conley and Ingles for Simons. Not sure salaries work, might need filler.

Conley and Ingles give embiid 2 perfect high level starters for a win now push

Jazz take a risk on Simmons.

Gobert, Whiteside
Simmons, paschal
Bogdanovic, gay
o'Neale, Clarkson
Mitchell, butler

stormi · Post #34 » by **stormi** » Thu Oct 14, 2021 5:32 pm

jazzfan1971 wrote:Jazz probably not interested in having 2 non shooters, but let's say they had confidence in their coaching staff enough to gamble.

Conley and Ingles for Simons. Not sure salaries work, might need filler.

Conley and Ingles give embiid 2 perfect high level starters for a win now push

Jazz take a risk on Simmons.

Gobert, Whiteside
Simmons, paschal
Bogdanovic, gay
o'Neale, Clarkson
Mitchell, butler

Add Jared Butler and 2 unprotected frp's. Still no, but a more serious entry offer.

stormi · Post #35 » by **stormi** » Thu Oct 14, 2021 5:35 pm

DusterBuster wrote:and he's just gonna end up keeping Simmons instead of trading him.

Not a bad scenario to be in the slightest. The actual pivot should be finding an upper tier ballhandler that can play alongside Ben and Embiid.

A duo under 30 that have a floor together as a 50+ win / 2nd round playoff team isn't the worst position at all to be in.

Post #36 » by **jazzfan1971** » Thu Oct 14, 2021 5:38 pm

stormi wrote:
jazzfan1971 wrote:Jazz probably not interested in having 2 non shooters, but let's say they had confidence in their coaching staff enough to gamble.

Conley and Ingles for Simons. Not sure salaries work, might need filler.

Conley and Ingles give embiid 2 perfect high level starters for a win now push

Jazz take a risk on Simmons.

Gobert, Whiteside
Simmons, paschal
Bogdanovic, gay
o'Neale, Clarkson
Mitchell, butler

Add Jared Butler and 2 unprotected frp's. Still no, but a more serious entry offer.

Is this Daryl Morey? I'm delighted to meet you!

stormi · Post #37 » by **stormi** » Thu Oct 14, 2021 5:40 pm

jazzfan1971 wrote:
stormi wrote:
jazzfan1971 wrote:Jazz probably not interested in having 2 non shooters, but let's say they had confidence in their coaching staff enough to gamble.

Conley and Ingles for Simons. Not sure salaries work, might need filler.

Conley and Ingles give embiid 2 perfect high level starters for a win now push

Jazz take a risk on Simmons.

Gobert, Whiteside
Simmons, paschal
Bogdanovic, gay
o'Neale, Clarkson
Mitchell, butler

Add Jared Butler and 2 unprotected frp's. Still no, but a more serious entry offer.

Is this Daryl Morey? I'm delighted to meet you!

Mike Conley and Joe Ingles for a 25 year old 3x allstar LMFAO.

I can't believe you typed out a full roster breakdown thinking that offer wasn't block worthy levels of insulting.

Post #38 » by **jazzfan1971** » Thu Oct 14, 2021 5:43 pm

I just thought Philly might be interested in winning is all. No intention to offend.

Hipster Doofus · Post #39 » by **Hipster Doofus** » Thu Oct 14, 2021 5:44 pm

Patience is a virtue. There's no pressure on the Sixers to run out and trade him, especially since Simmons came back to Philadelphia on his own after losing $1 million in salary with his tail between his legs like a stray dog.

My guess is he'll be traded around the trade deadline in February. A GM whose team is performing less-than-expected by that time will panic and bite the bullet. Happens every year. The Sixers will end up with better deals than what's being offered right now.

deadfeather · Post #40 » by **deadfeather** » Thu Oct 14, 2021 6:19 pm

Bornstellar wrote:
deadfeather wrote:None of those. Morey isnt trading Ben for anyone outside of a perennial all NBA first or second team player.

Lol keep dreaming

Im not a sixer fan. I'm just stating the truth. Morey is very stubborn.

Best key piece(s) for Ben Simmons?