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jokeboy86 wrote:Rose.
I remember watching Rose in high school and my jaw dropped watching his combination of speed and leaping ability. In high school. Wall left me with the same impression when I first saw him in high school but didn't maintain it like Rose did in the pros.
Lalouie wrote:i am NOT voting
ja - gale sayers
rose - walter payton
Doctor MJ wrote:I don't understand why people jump in a thread and say basically, "This thing you're all talking about. I'm too ignorant to know anything about it. Lollerskates!"
Kingdibs19 wrote:Prime D-Rose is overrated on RealGM and has turned into a mythical nostalgic legend. Ja is comfortably more athletic.
LivingLegend wrote:Rose was much stronger allowing him to finish through contact more often.
Doctor MJ wrote:I don't understand why people jump in a thread and say basically, "This thing you're all talking about. I'm too ignorant to know anything about it. Lollerskates!"
SunsLyf3 wrote:Kingdibs19 wrote:Prime D-Rose is overrated on RealGM and has turned into a mythical nostalgic legend. Ja is comfortably more athletic.
Ja is a bit more athletic but Rose did more with his athlethism. Mainly cause he had nasty handles.
Doctor MJ wrote:I don't understand why people jump in a thread and say basically, "This thing you're all talking about. I'm too ignorant to know anything about it. Lollerskates!"
NO-KG-AI wrote:Ja Morant had more dunks as a rookie than Rose has ever had in any season in his career, including his MVP year. Morant is 1 dunk from tying Rose's MVP season for dunks(81 games played), and Ja has only played 35 games so far.
He literally has already dunked the ball 20 more times in 165 games than Derrick has in 672.
Morant's FG% at the rim is substantially better than Rose's was at any point in his career, and even as a rookie was better than any Rose put up aside from a few years as a role player.
Rose is for some reason remembered as this dominant force at the rim, and he just never really was.
NO-KG-AI wrote:Ja Morant had more dunks as a rookie than Rose has ever had in any season in his career, including his MVP year. Morant is 1 dunk from tying Rose's MVP season for dunks(81 games played), and Ja has only played 35 games so far.
He literally has already dunked the ball 20 more times in 165 games than Derrick has in 672.
Morant's FG% at the rim is substantially better than Rose's was at any point in his career, and even as a rookie was better than any Rose put up aside from a few years as a role player.
Rose is for some reason remembered as this dominant force at the rim, and he just never really was.
SunsLyf3 wrote:NO-KG-AI wrote:Ja Morant had more dunks as a rookie than Rose has ever had in any season in his career, including his MVP year. Morant is 1 dunk from tying Rose's MVP season for dunks(81 games played), and Ja has only played 35 games so far.
He literally has already dunked the ball 20 more times in 165 games than Derrick has in 672.
Morant's FG% at the rim is substantially better than Rose's was at any point in his career, and even as a rookie was better than any Rose put up aside from a few years as a role player.
Rose is for some reason remembered as this dominant force at the rim, and he just never really was.
Rose had a better mid range and the tear drop to go with the handles. Ja is horrible outside of 10 feet.
D-Rose(MVP season) shot 45% from 10-14 ft and 40% from 15-19 ft. In comparison, Ja Morant is currently shooting 38% from 10-14 ft and 16% from 15-19 ft.
Ja NEEDS to dunk to be efficient whereas Rose could kill you with his jumper/tear drop.
Doctor MJ wrote:I don't understand why people jump in a thread and say basically, "This thing you're all talking about. I'm too ignorant to know anything about it. Lollerskates!"
NO-KG-AI wrote:SunsLyf3 wrote:NO-KG-AI wrote:Ja Morant had more dunks as a rookie than Rose has ever had in any season in his career, including his MVP year. Morant is 1 dunk from tying Rose's MVP season for dunks(81 games played), and Ja has only played 35 games so far.
He literally has already dunked the ball 20 more times in 165 games than Derrick has in 672.
Morant's FG% at the rim is substantially better than Rose's was at any point in his career, and even as a rookie was better than any Rose put up aside from a few years as a role player.
Rose is for some reason remembered as this dominant force at the rim, and he just never really was.
Rose had a better mid range and the tear drop to go with the handles. Ja is horrible outside of 10 feet.
D-Rose(MVP season) shot 45% from 10-14 ft and 40% from 15-19 ft. In comparison, Ja Morant is currently shooting 38% from 10-14 ft and 16% from 15-19 ft.
Ja NEEDS to dunk to be efficient whereas Rose could kill you with his jumper/tear drop.
If Rose was settling for 45% shots instead of going all the way to the rim, that's a knock on him, not on Morant.
Ja is shooting 72% at the rim this year to Rose's 61% his MVP year. That's a massive difference in finishing ability between two guys shooting a similar number of shots at the rim.(They are both right at 29% of their attempts being with 3 feet).
It's not a difference in volume at the rim, it's a massive percentage difference in their actual ability to finish there. It's not that Rose is just deciding to take more shots in other places. Morant just makes way more when they get to the cup, and the differences from the midrange isn't enough to mitigate it, which is why Morant is scoring more points on less FGA and FTA overall.
NO-KG-AI wrote:SunsLyf3 wrote:NO-KG-AI wrote:Ja Morant had more dunks as a rookie than Rose has ever had in any season in his career, including his MVP year. Morant is 1 dunk from tying Rose's MVP season for dunks(81 games played), and Ja has only played 35 games so far.
He literally has already dunked the ball 20 more times in 165 games than Derrick has in 672.
Morant's FG% at the rim is substantially better than Rose's was at any point in his career, and even as a rookie was better than any Rose put up aside from a few years as a role player.
Rose is for some reason remembered as this dominant force at the rim, and he just never really was.
Rose had a better mid range and the tear drop to go with the handles. Ja is horrible outside of 10 feet.
D-Rose(MVP season) shot 45% from 10-14 ft and 40% from 15-19 ft. In comparison, Ja Morant is currently shooting 38% from 10-14 ft and 16% from 15-19 ft.
Ja NEEDS to dunk to be efficient whereas Rose could kill you with his jumper/tear drop.
If Rose was settling for 45% shots instead of going all the way to the rim, that's a knock on him, not on Morant.
Ja is shooting 72% at the rim this year to Rose's 61% his MVP year. That's a massive difference in finishing ability between two guys shooting a similar number of shots at the rim.(They are both right at 29% of their attempts being with 3 feet).
It's not a difference in volume at the rim, it's a massive percentage difference in their actual ability to finish there. It's not that Rose is just deciding to take more shots in other places. Morant just makes way more when they get to the cup, and the differences from the midrange isn't enough to mitigate it, which is why Morant is scoring more points on less FGA and FTA overall.
NO-KG-AI wrote:SunsLyf3 wrote:NO-KG-AI wrote:Ja Morant had more dunks as a rookie than Rose has ever had in any season in his career, including his MVP year. Morant is 1 dunk from tying Rose's MVP season for dunks(81 games played), and Ja has only played 35 games so far.
He literally has already dunked the ball 20 more times in 165 games than Derrick has in 672.
Morant's FG% at the rim is substantially better than Rose's was at any point in his career, and even as a rookie was better than any Rose put up aside from a few years as a role player.
Rose is for some reason remembered as this dominant force at the rim, and he just never really was.
Rose had a better mid range and the tear drop to go with the handles. Ja is horrible outside of 10 feet.
D-Rose(MVP season) shot 45% from 10-14 ft and 40% from 15-19 ft. In comparison, Ja Morant is currently shooting 38% from 10-14 ft and 16% from 15-19 ft.
Ja NEEDS to dunk to be efficient whereas Rose could kill you with his jumper/tear drop.
If Rose was settling for 45% shots instead of going all the way to the rim, that's a knock on him, not on Morant.
Ja is shooting 72% at the rim this year to Rose's 61% his MVP year. That's a massive difference in finishing ability between two guys shooting a similar number of shots at the rim.(They are both right at 29% of their attempts being with 3 feet).
It's not a difference in volume at the rim, it's a massive percentage difference in their actual ability to finish there. It's not that Rose is just deciding to take more shots in other places. Morant just makes way more when they get to the cup, and the differences from the midrange isn't enough to mitigate it, which is why Morant is scoring more points on less FGA and FTA overall.