Does Wiggins have a chance at Finals MVP?

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Re: Does Wiggins have a chance at Finals MVP? 

Post#21 » by nfmos » Thu Jun 16, 2022 7:28 am

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Eric Millegan wrote:He didn't just shoot poorly. He was embarrassingly bad in the biggest of games.

Led the game in assists with 1 turnover. Played solid D. Just 1 turnover. Lead all starters in +/- as they focused all defensive pressure on him.

Turns out you just don't know what you're talking about, and don't understand why the Warriors are a dynasty. You're not the first, won't be the last. Go easy on yourself.

0/9 from 3

ZERO of NINE


Before this game, he made a 3 in 233 straight games, a 3 in 132 career playoff games, and had 38 straight playoff games with at least 2 3's, all nba records. But here you are citing the one game he didnt.

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Re: Does Wiggins have a chance at Finals MVP? 

Post#22 » by Eric Millegan » Thu Jun 16, 2022 7:28 am

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BoatsNZones wrote:Wiggins has been really strong in his role on most nights (wish he could hit an open 3 to save his life, but it is what it is). Super glad he has found his way here. Curry is a GOAT and tiers above everyone else on the floor.

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GOAT of what? Choking in big games? There's no such thing as A GOAT. You're either GOAT or you're not. In the biggest game of the year, he shoots 0-9 from three. He's lucky he was bailed out by Wiggins who has been tiers above everyone else on the floor. If Game 6 is a repeat of Game 5, Wiggins is Finals MVP. Period.


How many finals MVPs does Robert Horry have or should he? There are players that make open clutch shots because the attention and defense has decided to leave them open while focusing instead on the primary engine of the offense. And just because Curry doesnt force hero shots and instead helps the offense find the best shot, casual fans fall for these ridiculous narratives.

I love Wiggins, but Curry is averaging almost twice his scoring this series at a higher percentages in fg, 3pts, and fts, and leading and most all of the advanced stats, and still people make these horrible takes just to try to put Steph down. Its like they just dont want to let go of their bias against him and admit hes the one person this whole team is built around and succeed because of.


Horry was a role player whose role was to hit game winners. Wiggins is an All Star playing like the best player on the floor. There is a big difference. Curry forced 9 hero shots and missed them all.
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Re: Does Wiggins have a chance at Finals MVP? 

Post#23 » by BallerTalk » Thu Jun 16, 2022 7:30 am

Eric Millegan wrote:I mean if the series was over now, I'd give it to him. He has been the difference between winning and losing.


Not likely unfortunately, although like you I also believe he's the most deserving.

Media narrative wants desperately to finally give Curry a Finals MVP so Wiggins has to contend with that as well as his own previous reputation (as a bust) versus Curry's popularity.

But from a strictly basketball standpoint Wiggins has been the Warriors most consistently productive player this series.
Even more notable is that, unlike Draymond and Steph, Wiggins has been a high level contributor on BOTH sides of the ball.

As of right now Wiggins definitely deserves it but the are too many peripheral factors for him to get it.
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Re: Does Wiggins have a chance at Finals MVP? 

Post#24 » by Eric Millegan » Thu Jun 16, 2022 7:30 am

nfmos wrote:
Eric Millegan wrote:
BoatsNZones wrote:Led the game in assists with 1 turnover. Played solid D. Just 1 turnover. Lead all starters in +/- as they focused all defensive pressure on him.

Turns out you just don't know what you're talking about, and don't understand why the Warriors are a dynasty. You're not the first, won't be the last. Go easy on yourself.

0/9 from 3

ZERO of NINE


Before this game, he made a 3 in 233 straight games, a 3 in 132 career playoff games, and had 38 straight playoff games with at least 2 3's, all nba records. But here you are citing the one game he didnt.

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Exactly. The one game it matters. Typical Curry. Carried by Iggy, KD, and now Wiggins when it matters. Curry has the NBA record for getting shutdown by Kevin Love at the end of a home game 7.
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Re: Does Wiggins have a chance at Finals MVP? 

Post#25 » by Salieri » Thu Jun 16, 2022 7:32 am

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Salieri wrote:Wiggins has been excellent. Curry is BY FAR GSW's best player. I hope he doesn't get robbed of another FMVP.

Curry has never been robbed. KD was the better player in 17 and 18. And in 15, Iggy changed the series by going into starting lineup and then he hit all the big shots throughout those last couple games. He was the obvious choice. Curry tends to fade when the games get more important. Look at Game 7 in 2016 (look at Game 5 the other night!). He can't answer Kyrie. Locked down by Kevin Love. Curry is most effective when his team is up 10 to 12 points. Then, with the pressure off, he can bury the opposition with threes. Then he dances and acts like he's a badass.


Yeah, no. He has always been his team's best player, in every finals game.

You can disagree if you want, but please don't use weak narratives such as "hitting the big shots" or "tends to fade".

As far as I know, Curry should have 3 FMVPs already because he's always been the most VALUABLE player for the Warriors. Not the guy who scored the most points, not the best defender. But when it comes to value and impact, neither Iggy nor KD were real competition. No Curry, no system. It's that easy.

And as I said, you can disagree if you want, I won't try to debate your points and I'm not looking forward to anyone trying to debate mine. It's a matter of opinion, and mine is set in stone.
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Re: Does Wiggins have a chance at Finals MVP? 

Post#26 » by Loaded_Hollows » Thu Jun 16, 2022 7:34 am

Ahh another pathetic troll thread :lol:
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Re: Does Wiggins have a chance at Finals MVP? 

Post#27 » by Calinks » Thu Jun 16, 2022 7:50 am

He will earn it next game.
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Re: Does Wiggins have a chance at Finals MVP? 

Post#28 » by Eric Millegan » Thu Jun 16, 2022 8:02 am

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Eric Millegan wrote:
BoatsNZones wrote:Led the game in assists with 1 turnover. Played solid D. Just 1 turnover. Lead all starters in +/- as they focused all defensive pressure on him.

Turns out you just don't know what you're talking about, and don't understand why the Warriors are a dynasty. You're not the first, won't be the last. Go easy on yourself.

0/9 from 3

ZERO of NINE

And still shooting 42% from 3 on the series. A Finals stat line Lillard and friends can only dream of.

I know this is hard on you son. But you'll be OK.

Alright, I'll stop feeding the troll now.

Lillard has the NBA Playoff Record for Three Point Shots Made In A Game (12)
Curry has the NBA Playoff Record for Most Threes Attempted Without A Make In A Game (9)

Don't even begin to compare them. Put Dame on the Warriors instead of Curry and the Warriors win in 2016. Dame gets to WCF with Aminu and Harkless. How did Curry do without Klay last year? Yep. He didn't even make the playoffs. Checkmate.
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Re: Does Wiggins have a chance at Finals MVP? 

Post#29 » by Pachinko_ » Thu Jun 16, 2022 8:03 am

Why is everybody so fascinated by Wiggins LOL
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Re: Does Wiggins have a chance at Finals MVP? 

Post#30 » by Eric Millegan » Thu Jun 16, 2022 8:04 am

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Eric Millegan wrote:
BoatsNZones wrote:Led the game in assists with 1 turnover. Played solid D. Just 1 turnover. Lead all starters in +/- as they focused all defensive pressure on him.

Turns out you just don't know what you're talking about, and don't understand why the Warriors are a dynasty. You're not the first, won't be the last. Go easy on yourself.

0/9 from 3

ZERO of NINE


Wiggins

0/6 from 3

ZERO of SIX.

Precisely. And he STILL played better than Curry. That is how bad Curry is when the games matter.
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Re: Does Wiggins have a chance at Finals MVP? 

Post#31 » by Eric Millegan » Thu Jun 16, 2022 8:05 am

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Eric Millegan wrote:I mean if the series was over now, I'd give it to him. He has been the difference between winning and losing.


Not likely unfortunately, although like you I also believe he's the most deserving.

Media narrative wants desperately to finally give Curry a Finals MVP so Wiggins has to contend with that as well as his own previous reputation (as a bust) versus Curry's popularity.

But from a strictly basketball standpoint Wiggins has been the Warriors most consistently productive player this series.
Even more notable is that, unlike Draymond and Steph, Wiggins has been a high level contributor on BOTH sides of the ball.

As of right now Wiggins definitely deserves it but the are too many peripheral factors for him to get it.

Yep. Wiggins has been forcing Tatum into airballs. Meanwhile, Curry is throwing bricks from everywhere. It's not close. If Curry gets Finals MVP, it will be a TRAVESTY.
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Re: Does Wiggins have a chance at Finals MVP? 

Post#32 » by Eric Millegan » Thu Jun 16, 2022 8:07 am

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Salieri wrote:Wiggins has been excellent. Curry is BY FAR GSW's best player. I hope he doesn't get robbed of another FMVP.

Curry has never been robbed. KD was the better player in 17 and 18. And in 15, Iggy changed the series by going into starting lineup and then he hit all the big shots throughout those last couple games. He was the obvious choice. Curry tends to fade when the games get more important. Look at Game 7 in 2016 (look at Game 5 the other night!). He can't answer Kyrie. Locked down by Kevin Love. Curry is most effective when his team is up 10 to 12 points. Then, with the pressure off, he can bury the opposition with threes. Then he dances and acts like he's a badass.


Yeah, no. He has always been his team's best player, in every finals game.

You can disagree if you want, but please don't use weak narratives such as "hitting the big shots" or "tends to fade".

As far as I know, Curry should have 3 FMVPs already because he's always been the most VALUABLE player for the Warriors. Not the guy who scored the most points, not the best defender. But when it comes to value and impact, neither Iggy nor KD were real competition. No Curry, no system. It's that easy.

And as I said, you can disagree if you want, I won't try to debate your points and I'm not looking forward to anyone trying to debate mine. It's a matter of opinion, and mine is set in stone.

Curry can't even make the PLAYOFFS without HALL OF FAME teammates. Klay, Dray, and KD have carried Curry to championships. Curry is one trick pony. I'm totally unbiased. Just looking at the facts.
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Re: Does Wiggins have a chance at Finals MVP? 

Post#33 » by Eric Millegan » Thu Jun 16, 2022 8:08 am

Pachinko_ wrote:Why is everybody so fascinated by Wiggins LOL

Because he just now happens to be the best player in the NBA Finals. That's all. We'll see what happens in Game 6. I predict Curry sucks again.
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Re: Does Wiggins have a chance at Finals MVP? 

Post#34 » by Zvaart » Thu Jun 16, 2022 8:09 am

Eric Millegan wrote:
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Eric Millegan wrote:Curry has never been robbed. KD was the better player in 17 and 18. And in 15, Iggy changed the series by going into starting lineup and then he hit all the big shots throughout those last couple games. He was the obvious choice. Curry tends to fade when the games get more important. Look at Game 7 in 2016 (look at Game 5 the other night!). He can't answer Kyrie. Locked down by Kevin Love. Curry is most effective when his team is up 10 to 12 points. Then, with the pressure off, he can bury the opposition with threes. Then he dances and acts like he's a badass.


Yeah, no. He has always been his team's best player, in every finals game.

You can disagree if you want, but please don't use weak narratives such as "hitting the big shots" or "tends to fade".

As far as I know, Curry should have 3 FMVPs already because he's always been the most VALUABLE player for the Warriors. Not the guy who scored the most points, not the best defender. But when it comes to value and impact, neither Iggy nor KD were real competition. No Curry, no system. It's that easy.

And as I said, you can disagree if you want, I won't try to debate your points and I'm not looking forward to anyone trying to debate mine. It's a matter of opinion, and mine is set in stone.

Curry can't even make the PLAYOFFS without HALL OF FAME teammates. Klay, Dray, and KD have carried Curry to championships. Curry is one trick pony. I'm totally unbiased. Just looking at the facts.


you are also clueless. sorry mate, but that's the truth.

and to answer the question, if he has two exceptional games and curry lays two eggs in each of them, AND the dubs still win it, than yes, he has a chance. but hard to se it this way. we might not even win it all, so that question is not valid then.
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Re: Does Wiggins have a chance at Finals MVP? 

Post#35 » by BoatsNZones » Thu Jun 16, 2022 8:12 am

Eric Millegan wrote:
BoatsNZones wrote:
Eric Millegan wrote:0/9 from 3

ZERO of NINE

And still shooting 42% from 3 on the series. A Finals stat line Lillard and friends can only dream of.

I know this is hard on you son. But you'll be OK.

Alright, I'll stop feeding the troll now.

Lillard has the NBA Playoff Record for Three Point Shots Made In A Game (12)
Curry has the NBA Playoff Record for Most Threes Attempted Without A Make In A Game (9)

Don't even begin to compare them. Put Dame on the Warriors instead of Curry and the Warriors win in 2016. Dame gets to WCF with Aminu and Harkless. How did Curry do without Klay last year? Yep. He didn't even make the playoffs. Checkmate.

"Don't even begin to compare them". They've been compared. Gone head to head for years. It has not ended well (forget the team, focus on H2H). Apparently, everybody but you knows it. I thought this was about the Finals though? Sorry if that's a touchy subject.

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Re: Does Wiggins have a chance at Finals MVP? 

Post#36 » by Eric Millegan » Thu Jun 16, 2022 8:14 am

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Eric Millegan wrote:
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Yeah, no. He has always been his team's best player, in every finals game.

You can disagree if you want, but please don't use weak narratives such as "hitting the big shots" or "tends to fade".

As far as I know, Curry should have 3 FMVPs already because he's always been the most VALUABLE player for the Warriors. Not the guy who scored the most points, not the best defender. But when it comes to value and impact, neither Iggy nor KD were real competition. No Curry, no system. It's that easy.

And as I said, you can disagree if you want, I won't try to debate your points and I'm not looking forward to anyone trying to debate mine. It's a matter of opinion, and mine is set in stone.

Curry can't even make the PLAYOFFS without HALL OF FAME teammates. Klay, Dray, and KD have carried Curry to championships. Curry is one trick pony. I'm totally unbiased. Just looking at the facts.


you are also clueless. sorry mate, but that's the truth.

and to answer the question, if he has two exceptional games and curry lays two eggs in each of them, AND the dubs still win it, than yes, he has a chance. but hard to se it this way. we might not even win it all, so that question is not valid then.

You're smart. Celtics may win series. Especially since Curry sucks. I love the NBA!!
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Re: Does Wiggins have a chance at Finals MVP? 

Post#37 » by Zvaart » Thu Jun 16, 2022 8:17 am

Eric Millegan wrote:
svart wrote:
Eric Millegan wrote:Curry can't even make the PLAYOFFS without HALL OF FAME teammates. Klay, Dray, and KD have carried Curry to championships. Curry is one trick pony. I'm totally unbiased. Just looking at the facts.


you are also clueless. sorry mate, but that's the truth.

and to answer the question, if he has two exceptional games and curry lays two eggs in each of them, AND the dubs still win it, than yes, he has a chance. but hard to se it this way. we might not even win it all, so that question is not valid then.

You're smart. Celtics may win series. Especially since Curry sucks. I love the NBA!!


thank you, your confirmation means the world to me, now i am officially smart. Gotta change my nick from svart to Marcus
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Re: Does Wiggins have a chance at Finals MVP? 

Post#38 » by Eric Millegan » Thu Jun 16, 2022 8:19 am

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BoatsNZones wrote:And still shooting 42% from 3 on the series. A Finals stat line Lillard and friends can only dream of.

I know this is hard on you son. But you'll be OK.

Alright, I'll stop feeding the troll now.

Lillard has the NBA Playoff Record for Three Point Shots Made In A Game (12)
Curry has the NBA Playoff Record for Most Threes Attempted Without A Make In A Game (9)

Don't even begin to compare them. Put Dame on the Warriors instead of Curry and the Warriors win in 2016. Dame gets to WCF with Aminu and Harkless. How did Curry do without Klay last year? Yep. He didn't even make the playoffs. Checkmate.

Oh child. "Don't even begin to compare them". They've been compared. Gone head to head for years. It has not ended well (forget the team, focus on H2H). Apparently, everybody but you knows it. I thought this was about the Finals though? Sorry if that's a touchy subject.

Dangit, still feeding.

What are you talking about? Dame goes to WCF with AMINU and HARKLESS. HARDLY a fair fight. When Curry doesn't have HALL OF FAME TEAMMATES, he leads his team to lottery. And STILL- The Blazers are responsible for one of 2016 Warriors' 9 losses. Dame personally, by himself, blew out the Best Regular Season Team Ever.

Let's throw Aminu and Harkless on the Warriors. And give Klay and Dray to the Blazers to play with Dame. NOW- let's see who wins head to head?!! Blazers win by 50. Easy.
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Re: Does Wiggins have a chance at Finals MVP? 

Post#39 » by Pachinko_ » Thu Jun 16, 2022 8:20 am

Eric Millegan wrote:Because he just now happens to be the best player in the NBA Finals.

Well there's also this other guy who averages 30.6 points on 60%TS in this series

edit: oh ****, I see you're already discussing this, ahhhhh, in length LOL
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Post#40 » by Eric Millegan » Thu Jun 16, 2022 8:23 am

Pachinko_ wrote:
Eric Millegan wrote:Because he just now happens to be the best player in the NBA Finals.

Well there's also this other guy who averages 30.6 points on 60%TS in this series

CURRY 0/9 FROM THREE in most important game of the season. WIGGINS SHUTS DOWN TATUM and leads Warriors in scoring in pivotal Game 5! Curry has never been able to handle the pressure. He could NEVER even make the PLAYOFFS with AMINU and Harkless as teammates!
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