What would you give for Garland ?

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Re: What would you give for Garland ? 

Post#21 » by Iwasawitness » Sun Jun 8, 2025 12:25 am

Godymas wrote:If Atlanta calls Cleveland this off season and says “we will offer Trae Young for Garland” the Cavs say yes

But if Memphis calls and says “we will offer Ja Morant for Darius Garland” the Cavs say no


Why would Cleveland say yes to that?
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Re: What would you give for Garland ? 

Post#22 » by fanofthegreats » Sun Jun 8, 2025 12:28 am

He doesn’t really move any needle
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Re: What would you give for Garland ? 

Post#23 » by JujitsuFlip » Sun Jun 8, 2025 12:29 am

Magic_Johnny12 wrote:Before we get heavy into this discussion, can a few Cleveland fans (that are level headed and realistic) that are in-tuned with the Cavaliers finances tell us what they might be looking for?

Positions?
Archetype?
Salary range?
Depth?
Picks?

Well, they're a 2nd apron team, so there's that. They do not control their own 1st round pick until 2030.

But i doubt they actually entertain any phone calls for him.
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Re: What would you give for Garland ? 

Post#24 » by levon » Sun Jun 8, 2025 12:30 am

At that pricepoint and physical build, he only fits on a team that doesn't have a starting point guard. So like basically Orlando and that's it.
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Re: What would you give for Garland ? 

Post#25 » by azcatz11 » Sun Jun 8, 2025 12:32 am

KGDirkTD_Fan wrote:Someone here mentioned a swap of Garland & Franz Wagner could be really interesting both fans may hate it. Unfortunately it doesn't solve Cleveland's depth issue due to how expensive this team is


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Re: What would you give for Garland ? 

Post#26 » by Tracymcgoaty » Sun Jun 8, 2025 12:48 am

Lebron for Garland lets do it.
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Re: What would you give for Garland ? 

Post#27 » by Saul Goodman » Sun Jun 8, 2025 12:53 am

Suggs for Garland makes a lot of sense for both teams



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Post#29 » by JujitsuFlip » Sun Jun 8, 2025 1:22 am

KGDirkTD_Fan wrote:Someone here mentioned a swap of Garland & Franz Wagner could be really interesting both fans may hate it. Unfortunately it doesn't solve Cleveland's depth issue due to how expensive this team is
Yes, it's a Knicks fan who always suggests it.

Franz solves nothing for the Cavs.

He is a 4 who can't shoot. He plays the same position as Mobley. He'd have to play outta position again because Banchero currently has him out of position too.
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Re: What would you give for Garland ? 

Post#30 » by tamaraw08 » Sun Jun 8, 2025 1:28 am

Eightnineborn wrote:Who would you trade for Garland ?

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Re: What would you give for Garland ? 

Post#31 » by Chuck Everett » Sun Jun 8, 2025 1:45 am

I kind of consider him to be a fake all-star. Just like Herro. You move either guy to the West and they never make all-star teams again. He's a good player, but I am just not a fan.
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Post#32 » by JujitsuFlip » Sun Jun 8, 2025 1:46 am

Chuck Everett wrote:I kind of consider him to be a fake all-star. Just like Herro. You move either guy to the West and they never make all-star teams again. He's a good player, but I am just not a fan.
Eh, idk if you can call a 2x All-Star 'fake'. The guy is a good regular season performer.
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Re: What would you give for Garland ? 

Post#33 » by jtan08 » Sun Jun 8, 2025 1:49 am

Player like nembhard will help cavs. A slightly bigger guard who can defend and take on ball handling duties.
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Re: What would you give for Garland ? 

Post#34 » by Godymas » Sun Jun 8, 2025 2:08 am

axeman23 wrote:
Godymas wrote:If Atlanta calls Cleveland this off season and says “we will offer Trae Young for Garland” the Cavs say yes

But if Memphis calls and says “we will offer Ja Morant for Darius Garland” the Cavs say no



Why would the Cavs want Young? You get older, ever smaller and worse defensively, and get MORE hero-ball from the guards, FURTHER freezing out their bigs. Stuff that...


You really said older in the case of 26 vs. 25 right now.

Here’s a sentence to illustrate a point.

One is a future HoFer and the other is Darius Garland.
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Re: What would you give for Garland ? 

Post#35 » by JujitsuFlip » Sun Jun 8, 2025 2:18 am

Godymas wrote:
axeman23 wrote:
Godymas wrote:If Atlanta calls Cleveland this off season and says “we will offer Trae Young for Garland” the Cavs say yes

But if Memphis calls and says “we will offer Ja Morant for Darius Garland” the Cavs say no



Why would the Cavs want Young? You get older, ever smaller and worse defensively, and get MORE hero-ball from the guards, FURTHER freezing out their bigs. Stuff that...


You really said older in the case of 26 vs. 25 right now.

Here’s a sentence to illustrate a point.

One is a future HoFer and the other is Darius Garland.
Trae solves nothing for the Cavs though. You're just getting a worse shooting, worse defense, same Ast:TO ratio at a higher volume, smaller, more expensive player.

Trae Young is actually the opposite of what the Cavs need.
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Re: What would you give for Garland ? 

Post#36 » by Iwasawitness » Sun Jun 8, 2025 2:25 am

Godymas wrote:
axeman23 wrote:
Godymas wrote:If Atlanta calls Cleveland this off season and says “we will offer Trae Young for Garland” the Cavs say yes

But if Memphis calls and says “we will offer Ja Morant for Darius Garland” the Cavs say no



Why would the Cavs want Young? You get older, ever smaller and worse defensively, and get MORE hero-ball from the guards, FURTHER freezing out their bigs. Stuff that...


You really said older in the case of 26 vs. 25 right now.

Here’s a sentence to illustrate a point.

One is a future HoFer and the other is Darius Garland.


1. Trae isn't a future HOF.

2. He doesn't solve Cleveland's problems. If anything he makes them worse.
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Re: What would you give for Garland ? 

Post#37 » by Godymas » Sun Jun 8, 2025 2:27 am

Iwasawitness wrote:
Godymas wrote:
axeman23 wrote:

Why would the Cavs want Young? You get older, ever smaller and worse defensively, and get MORE hero-ball from the guards, FURTHER freezing out their bigs. Stuff that...


You really said older in the case of 26 vs. 25 right now.

Here’s a sentence to illustrate a point.

One is a future HoFer and the other is Darius Garland.


1. Trae isn't a future HOF.

2. He doesn't solve Cleveland's problems. If anything he makes them worse.

25-10 career averages, name someone that averaged that for a career that isn’t HoF
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Re: What would you give for Garland ? 

Post#38 » by Godymas » Sun Jun 8, 2025 2:30 am

JujitsuFlip wrote:
Godymas wrote:
axeman23 wrote:

Why would the Cavs want Young? You get older, ever smaller and worse defensively, and get MORE hero-ball from the guards, FURTHER freezing out their bigs. Stuff that...


You really said older in the case of 26 vs. 25 right now.

Here’s a sentence to illustrate a point.

One is a future HoFer and the other is Darius Garland.
Trae solves nothing for the Cavs though. You're just getting a worse shooting, worse defense, same Ast:TO ratio at a higher volume, smaller, more expensive player.

Trae Young is actually the opposite of what the Cavs need.


It’s ok to admit you don’t watch the Hawks. There’s a big difference in what Trae Young can do with a competent big man vs. Clint Capela and Okongwu. He had John Collins averaging 21 for a season
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Re: What would you give for Garland ? 

Post#39 » by toooskies » Sun Jun 8, 2025 2:33 am

The Cavs might prefer a PG or other playmaker who doesn’t get targeted in the playoffs. Derrick White might be the closest thing to what Cleveland might want. Suggs or Jrue Holiday might not be enough.

Everyone can use more elite wings so a Franz or Trey Murphy would start a conversation.

The Cavs are above the 2nd apron so any aggregation deal requires the Cavs to cut at least $15m, more if they want to retain Jerome or Merrill.

The logistics make any deal unlikely.
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Re: What would you give for Garland ? 

Post#40 » by JujitsuFlip » Sun Jun 8, 2025 3:17 am

Godymas wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:
Godymas wrote:
You really said older in the case of 26 vs. 25 right now.

Here’s a sentence to illustrate a point.

One is a future HoFer and the other is Darius Garland.
Trae solves nothing for the Cavs though. You're just getting a worse shooting, worse defense, same Ast:TO ratio at a higher volume, smaller, more expensive player.

Trae Young is actually the opposite of what the Cavs need.


It’s ok to admit you don’t watch the Hawks. There’s a big difference in what Trae Young can do with a competent big man vs. Clint Capela and Okongwu. He had John Collins averaging 21 for a season
I don't have to, i watch the Cavs and I know a worst shooting and worst defender version of Garland is not what the Cavs need...

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