Woj:Kevin Durant will want a trade if Kyrie leaves

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Re: Woj:Kevin Durant will want a trade if Kyrie leaves 

Post#201 » by Darthlukey » Thu Jun 23, 2022 12:36 am

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Re: Woj:Kevin Durant will want a trade if Kyrie leaves 

Post#202 » by celtics543 » Thu Jun 23, 2022 12:39 am

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NotAKnicksFan wrote:Smart
Brown
Tatum
Durant
Timelord

Likely a better team then 16-17 warriors


lol at thinking Timelord, Smart, and Brown would all be untouchable yet still bringing in Durant


I'm obviously a Celtics fan but I had a similar question, who did they trade to get him? I'm not sure Payton Prichard, Grant Williams, and Al Horford gets it done haha
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Re: Woj:Kevin Durant will want a trade if Kyrie leaves 

Post#203 » by Hello Brooklyn » Thu Jun 23, 2022 12:44 am

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Hello Brooklyn wrote:
taikibansei wrote:
I predicted this too, including this post in a now locked thread here:

https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1863018


I have never wanted Kyrie on the Knicks--though I would have (grudgingly) taken him too if that's what it took to get KD (prior to his 2019 Achilles tendon tear). Once KD went down again in 2019, I did not think even he was worth having to deal with Kyrie's BS.


They may have dodged a bullet with KD-Kyrie. But then took a bullet straight on next off season by paying Randle a max contract, a long with bad deals for Evan Fournier and Derrick Rose.

That outcome was much worse.

The Knicks are still the Knicks.


Randle is a bad contract. However, Rose--sadly our best pg over the last two years--has just one more year at $14,520,730. Fournier--again sadly the best 3-pt-shooter (.389%) and second-best eFG% (.541%) among our usual starting five--has just two more years at $19,500,000 per year. Accordingly, while this roster is not competing for a championship soon (ever), Rose and Fournier are relatively cheap for their production and soon to be gone, and we still have all our picks moving forward. (That Randle signing though.... :banghead: )

Compared to this...your starting point guard is a part-time player/full-time flat-earther currently holding the franchise hostage for a max contract. He is abetted in this attempted shakedown by your 34-year-old, oft-injured, always passive-aggressive, super-max "superstar," while your young gun max "all-star" just took last year off to focus on playing COD. Oh, and you have none of your own picks until something like 2044.

No offense, but I think we're in a race to the bottom...and you're winning.


KD is a top 5 player in the league no matter what stupid insults you want to throw his way.

Vax mandate is over and Kyrie will be available.

KD/Kyrie/Simmons is enough talent to win the East if we can get some luck.

Meanwhile the Knicks are stuck with the worst contracts in the league and very little young talent. And don't have a great draft pick.

As bad as our situation is, it is 1000x better than yours. Enjoy missing the play in again.
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Re: Woj:Kevin Durant will want a trade if Kyrie leaves 

Post#204 » by GiannisAnte34 » Thu Jun 23, 2022 12:45 am

celtics543 wrote:
GiannisAnte34 wrote:
NotAKnicksFan wrote:Smart
Brown
Tatum
Durant
Timelord

Likely a better team then 16-17 warriors


lol at thinking Timelord, Smart, and Brown would all be untouchable yet still bringing in Durant


I'm obviously a Celtics fan but I had a similar question, who did they trade to get him? I'm not sure Payton Prichard, Grant Williams, and Al Horford gets it done haha


even OG + Gary Trent + 2 firsts is a low ball offer, seen that one a few times for KD and those guys are way better prospects than Grant Williams or PP

it would likely involve Brown as the main piece or Timelord + Smart + ? in a multi team deal

I'd pull the trigger if it were on the table. there's no gaurantee the Celtics get back to the Finals but adding a proven elite ISO scorer and 3 pt shooter like Durant increases those odds significantly
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Re: Woj:Kevin Durant will want a trade if Kyrie leaves 

Post#205 » by taikibansei » Thu Jun 23, 2022 12:46 am

Hello Brooklyn wrote:
taikibansei wrote:
Hello Brooklyn wrote:
They may have dodged a bullet with KD-Kyrie. But then took a bullet straight on next off season by paying Randle a max contract, a long with bad deals for Evan Fournier and Derrick Rose.

That outcome was much worse.

The Knicks are still the Knicks.


Randle is a bad contract. However, Rose--sadly our best pg over the last two years--has just one more year at $14,520,730. Fournier--again sadly the best 3-pt-shooter (.389%) and second-best eFG% (.541%) among our usual starting five--has just two more years at $19,500,000 per year. Accordingly, while this roster is not competing for a championship soon (ever), Rose and Fournier are relatively cheap for their production and soon to be gone, and we still have all our picks moving forward. (That Randle signing though.... :banghead: )

Compared to this...your starting point guard is a part-time player/full-time flat-earther currently holding the franchise hostage for a max contract. He is abetted in this attempted shakedown by your 34-year-old, oft-injured, always passive-aggressive, super-max "superstar," while your young gun max "all-star" just took last year off to focus on playing COD. Oh, and you have none of your own picks until something like 2044.

No offense, but I think we're in a race to the bottom...and you're winning.


KD is a top 5 player in the league no matter what stupid insults you want to throw his way.

Vax mandate is over and Kyrie will be available.

KD/Kyrie/Simmons is enough talent to win the East if we can get some luck.

Meanwhile the Knicks are stuck with the worst contracts in the league and very little young talent. And don't have a great draft pick.

As bad as our situation is, it is 1000x better than yours. Enjoy missing the play in again.


I'm willing to bet right now that your "core" :lol: :roll: of Kyrie, KD and Simmons also misses the play in next year. Is it a bet?
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Re: Woj:Kevin Durant will want a trade if Kyrie leaves 

Post#206 » by Hello Brooklyn » Thu Jun 23, 2022 12:48 am

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Hello Brooklyn wrote:
taikibansei wrote:
Randle is a bad contract. However, Rose--sadly our best pg over the last two years--has just one more year at $14,520,730. Fournier--again sadly the best 3-pt-shooter (.389%) and second-best eFG% (.541%) among our usual starting five--has just two more years at $19,500,000 per year. Accordingly, while this roster is not competing for a championship soon (ever), Rose and Fournier are relatively cheap for their production and soon to be gone, and we still have all our picks moving forward. (That Randle signing though.... :banghead: )

Compared to this...your starting point guard is a part-time player/full-time flat-earther currently holding the franchise hostage for a max contract. He is abetted in this attempted shakedown by your 34-year-old, oft-injured, always passive-aggressive, super-max "superstar," while your young gun max "all-star" just took last year off to focus on playing COD. Oh, and you have none of your own picks until something like 2044.

No offense, but I think we're in a race to the bottom...and you're winning.


KD is a top 5 player in the league no matter what stupid insults you want to throw his way.

Vax mandate is over and Kyrie will be available.

KD/Kyrie/Simmons is enough talent to win the East if we can get some luck.

Meanwhile the Knicks are stuck with the worst contracts in the league and very little young talent. And don't have a great draft pick.

As bad as our situation is, it is 1000x better than yours. Enjoy missing the play in again.


I'm willing to bet right now that your "core" :lol: :roll: of Kyrie, KD and Simmons also misses the play in next year. Is it a bet?


I will make you a sig bet right now that the Nets make the play in next year.

Take it if you have the balls to do it.
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Re: Woj:Kevin Durant will want a trade if Kyrie leaves 

Post#207 » by SelfishPlayer » Thu Jun 23, 2022 12:49 am

Hello Brooklyn wrote:
taikibansei wrote:
Hello Brooklyn wrote:
They may have dodged a bullet with KD-Kyrie. But then took a bullet straight on next off season by paying Randle a max contract, a long with bad deals for Evan Fournier and Derrick Rose.

That outcome was much worse.

The Knicks are still the Knicks.


Randle is a bad contract. However, Rose--sadly our best pg over the last two years--has just one more year at $14,520,730. Fournier--again sadly the best 3-pt-shooter (.389%) and second-best eFG% (.541%) among our usual starting five--has just two more years at $19,500,000 per year. Accordingly, while this roster is not competing for a championship soon (ever), Rose and Fournier are relatively cheap for their production and soon to be gone, and we still have all our picks moving forward. (That Randle signing though.... :banghead: )

Compared to this...your starting point guard is a part-time player/full-time flat-earther currently holding the franchise hostage for a max contract. He is abetted in this attempted shakedown by your 34-year-old, oft-injured, always passive-aggressive, super-max "superstar," while your young gun max "all-star" just took last year off to focus on playing COD. Oh, and you have none of your own picks until something like 2044.

No offense, but I think we're in a race to the bottom...and you're winning.


KD is a top 5 player in the league no matter what stupid insults you want to throw his way.

Vax mandate is over and Kyrie will be available.

KD/Kyrie/Simmons is enough talent to win the East if we can get some luck.

Meanwhile the Knicks are stuck with the worst contracts in the league and very little young talent. And don't have a great draft pick.

As bad as our situation is, it is 1000x better than yours. Enjoy missing the play in again.


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Re: Woj:Kevin Durant will want a trade if Kyrie leaves 

Post#208 » by celtics543 » Thu Jun 23, 2022 12:51 am

GiannisAnte34 wrote:
celtics543 wrote:
GiannisAnte34 wrote:
lol at thinking Timelord, Smart, and Brown would all be untouchable yet still bringing in Durant


I'm obviously a Celtics fan but I had a similar question, who did they trade to get him? I'm not sure Payton Prichard, Grant Williams, and Al Horford gets it done haha


even OG + Gary Trent + 2 firsts is a low ball offer, seen that one a few times for KD and those guys are way better prospects than Grant Williams or PP

it would likely involve Brown as the main piece or Timelord + Smart + ? in a multi team deal

I'd pull the trigger if it were on the table. there's no gaurantee the Celtics get back to the Finals but adding a proven elite ISO scorer and 3 pt shooter like Durant increases those odds significantly


I'd probably pull the trigger on either one as well. You're going all in to win now but if you traded Brown you're replacing him with KD who's better at every part of basketball.

If it's Timelord and Smart you can still start White/Brown/Tatum/Durant/Horford and figure out the bench later. Durant with Tatum is just a killer frontcourt.

Regardless, there's no way Brooklyn trades him to Boston and probably no way they trade him at all.
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Re: Woj:Kevin Durant will want a trade if Kyrie leaves 

Post#209 » by taikibansei » Thu Jun 23, 2022 12:53 am

Hello Brooklyn wrote:
taikibansei wrote:
Hello Brooklyn wrote:
KD is a top 5 player in the league no matter what stupid insults you want to throw his way.

Vax mandate is over and Kyrie will be available.

KD/Kyrie/Simmons is enough talent to win the East if we can get some luck.

Meanwhile the Knicks are stuck with the worst contracts in the league and very little young talent. And don't have a great draft pick.

As bad as our situation is, it is 1000x better than yours. Enjoy missing the play in again.


I'm willing to bet right now that your "core" :lol: :roll: of Kyrie, KD and Simmons also misses the play in next year. Is it a bet?


I will make you a sig bet right now that the Nets make the play in next year.

Take it if you have the balls to do it.


Deal--though the offer is only good if Kyrie, KD and Simmons are on your roster for at least half the next season. (I.e., if Marks somehow saves your sorry asses with a miracle Kyrie trade over this summer, then no deal.)
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Re: Woj:Kevin Durant will want a trade if Kyrie leaves 

Post#210 » by GatorbaitDD » Thu Jun 23, 2022 12:53 am

infinite11285 wrote:
Dupp wrote:They really went from harden Kyrie and kd looking unbeatable to this. It’s crazy how bad the nets blew it.


What did the Nets do? All of the issues begin and end with Kyrie Irving.


who would of seen this coming
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Re: Woj:Kevin Durant will want a trade if Kyrie leaves 

Post#211 » by gorz » Thu Jun 23, 2022 1:04 am

So why did Durant and Irving sign with Brooklyn in the first place?
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Re: Woj:Kevin Durant will want a trade if Kyrie leaves 

Post#212 » by Edrees » Thu Jun 23, 2022 1:06 am

davidfr94 wrote:The way Sean Marks has reshapped the roster since the Harden trade has been pretty surprising considering what he was doing prior.

Going from a really good gm to a really really Bad one.

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As soon as you get stars like Durant and Irving, they dictate who you get and dont get. Not much he can do. It's the same reason I dont blame Pelinka for lebron wanting westbrook.
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Re: Woj:Kevin Durant will want a trade if Kyrie leaves 

Post#213 » by dribble1614 » Thu Jun 23, 2022 1:07 am

bisme37 wrote:Celts will take him. He should have come to Boston in 2016. KD and Tatum yes please.

celtics should probably ship out tatum for durant instead.
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Re: Woj:Kevin Durant will want a trade if Kyrie leaves 

Post#214 » by Zenzibar » Thu Jun 23, 2022 1:23 am

What a mess, feeling conflicted for the Nets. 8-)

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Re: Woj:Kevin Durant will want a trade if Kyrie leaves 

Post#215 » by Hello Brooklyn » Thu Jun 23, 2022 1:45 am

taikibansei wrote:
Hello Brooklyn wrote:
taikibansei wrote:
I'm willing to bet right now that your "core" :lol: :roll: of Kyrie, KD and Simmons also misses the play in next year. Is it a bet?


I will make you a sig bet right now that the Nets make the play in next year.

Take it if you have the balls to do it.


Deal--though the offer is only good if Kyrie, KD and Simmons are on your roster for at least half the next season. (I.e., if Marks somehow saves your sorry asses with a miracle Kyrie trade over this summer, then no deal.)


Thats fine.

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Re: Woj:Kevin Durant will want a trade if Kyrie leaves 

Post#216 » by taikibansei » Thu Jun 23, 2022 1:48 am

Hello Brooklyn wrote:
taikibansei wrote:
Hello Brooklyn wrote:
I will make you a sig bet right now that the Nets make the play in next year.

Take it if you have the balls to do it.


Deal--though the offer is only good if Kyrie, KD and Simmons are on your roster for at least half the next season. (I.e., if Marks somehow saves your sorry asses with a miracle Kyrie trade over this summer, then no deal.)


Thats fine.

Sig lasts 1 month.


Deal.
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Re: Woj:Kevin Durant will want a trade if Kyrie leaves 

Post#217 » by Lalouie » Thu Jun 23, 2022 1:52 am

not shocked,,,but kd is such a P*******Y

ultimately it all won't matter. no want will want to give up anything for kyrie so he will be forced to stay and the nets will be forced to give it one more go
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Re: Woj:Kevin Durant will want a trade if Kyrie leaves 

Post#218 » by Galou » Thu Jun 23, 2022 1:56 am

donkeylips wrote:knicks should offer everything for him

Foh
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Re: Woj:Kevin Durant will want a trade if Kyrie leaves 

Post#219 » by SpreeS » Thu Jun 23, 2022 3:57 am

celtics543 wrote:
GiannisAnte34 wrote:
NotAKnicksFan wrote:Smart
Brown
Tatum
Durant
Timelord

Likely a better team then 16-17 warriors


lol at thinking Timelord, Smart, and Brown would all be untouchable yet still bringing in Durant


I'm obviously a Celtics fan but I had a similar question, who did they trade to get him? I'm not sure Payton Prichard, Grant Williams, and Al Horford gets it done haha


If you are smart enough, you don’t trade your young stars Tatum or Brown + Smart or RW3 for 34y old KD, who played 90 games in last 3 seasons.
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Re: Woj:Kevin Durant will want a trade if Kyrie leaves 

Post#220 » by Raps in 4 » Thu Jun 23, 2022 4:11 am

He should demand a trade to Toronto. Guaranteed ring if he can stay healthy, and he'll shed the narrative that he can't win without a super team around him.

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