are the Knicks LEGIT contenders?!

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Re: are the Knicks LEGIT contenders?! 

Post#201 » by blueNorange » Wed Jun 26, 2024 5:07 pm

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blueNorange wrote:so hello brooklyn is in 2 different threads trying to pour cold water on the knicks

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Re: are the Knicks LEGIT contenders?! 

Post#202 » by Hello Brooklyn » Wed Jun 26, 2024 5:08 pm

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Bucks have Doc Rivers as the head coach the title window is closed until he’s fired.


Well I'm just saying they can beat the Knicks :lol:
Doc is just really bad at adapting but maybe they get a underdog boost.


Just can’t see it. Already concerns with Middleton and Lopez while each year Dame is a risk for a large drop off.


I think Dame is going to be way better. He was out of shape and dealing with a divorce last year. But we will see.
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Re: are the Knicks LEGIT contenders?! 

Post#203 » by louc1970 » Wed Jun 26, 2024 5:08 pm

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iLLmatic860 wrote:Lmaoo dudes just be talking out they ass on the gb. Say **** without doing simple search

Og is one of the few guys in the league that can contain Giannis


One stupid Youtube clip means OG can guard Giannis???? :lol:

Now I've heard it all. I hope you guys go with that strategy.

Also funny how you assume OG is coming back to the Knicks.

What if he goes to Philly for a bigger role?

Don't count your eggs before they hatch.

A bigger role in Philly playing behind Embiid and Maxey? So he'd still have a similar role like he was in TOR or he can be the 3rd/4th interchangeable option on the Knicks - a team he is already familiar with.

The choice is ultimately up to him, but he would have a great thing in NY. Him and Bridges would cause a lot of havoc defensively against other teams.

OG will go to the highest bidder. Which ever team offers up $35+M gets his service.

Imagine the Spurs landing Clingan and (Castle/Dillingham/or Carter) and being the highest bidder for OG? Defensively that team comes out strong once the rookies get some seasoning.

Clingan/Wemby/OG/Vassell/Castle - wings shooting 37% from 3, size to rebound, defense would be amazing. Everyone 26 or younger and locked into low cost contracts (except OG).
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Re: are the Knicks LEGIT contenders?! 

Post#204 » by omerome » Wed Jun 26, 2024 5:09 pm

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omerome wrote:
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One stupid Youtube clip means OG can guard Giannis???? :lol:

Now I've heard it all. I hope you guys go with that strategy.

Also funny how you assume OG is coming back to the Knicks.

What if he goes to Philly for a bigger role?

Don't count your eggs before they hatch.

A bigger role in Philly playing behind Embiid and Maxey? So he'd still have a similar role like he was in TOR or he can be the 3rd/4th interchangeable option on the Knicks - a team he is already familiar with.

The choice is ultimately up to him, but he would have a great thing in NY. Him and Bridges would cause a lot of havoc defensively against other teams.


3rd option on Philly v 4th option in NYC. Not saying it will happen.

But its possible. Isn't it?

Bridges/OG/Randle sounds like a very crowded front court.

Which is why - especially in this age of position less basketball, you can play Bridges, OG, and Randle together as your 2, 3, and 4.

Bridges would do so much more defensively than what Divo did as the 2 and he still can make plays for himself or creating passing lanes for Brunson and others. This will also open up the floor for OG as teams can't cheat on anyone and when the ball swings, he's either open to shoot or he can take it to the basket.
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Re: are the Knicks LEGIT contenders?! 

Post#205 » by SeanieWard » Wed Jun 26, 2024 5:11 pm

They would of been last year if Bogs, OG and Randle were healthy. Although I'm not sure if they are better or worst with Randle on the floor. Hartenstein seemed to be a better fit and now they may lose him and OG. But Bridges is Mr. Reliable and he'll definitely fit their culture and team chemistry should be great. I only have Boston ahead of them in the East as of today so yea they're contenders to me
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Post#206 » by ccvle » Wed Jun 26, 2024 5:12 pm

knicks were at their best when they keep missing shots and getting offensive rebounds.
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Re: are the Knicks LEGIT contenders?! 

Post#207 » by Hello Brooklyn » Wed Jun 26, 2024 5:13 pm

omerome wrote:
Hello Brooklyn wrote:
omerome wrote:A bigger role in Philly playing behind Embiid and Maxey? So he'd still have a similar role like he was in TOR or he can be the 3rd/4th interchangeable option on the Knicks - a team he is already familiar with.

The choice is ultimately up to him, but he would have a great thing in NY. Him and Bridges would cause a lot of havoc defensively against other teams.


3rd option on Philly v 4th option in NYC. Not saying it will happen.

But its possible. Isn't it?

Bridges/OG/Randle sounds like a very crowded front court.

Which is why - especially in this age of position less basketball, you can play Bridges, OG, and Randle together as your 2, 3, and 4.

Bridges would do so much more defensively than what Divo did as the 2 and he still can make plays for himself or creating passing lanes for Brunson and others. This will also open up the floor for OG as teams can't cheat on anyone and when the ball swings, he's either open to shoot or he can take it to the basket.


Look it could work. I'm just saying he might want to leave.

Especially if they offer him more money. Don't assume its locked up.

If I'm the Sixers I'd love to take OG away from the Knicks.
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Re: are the Knicks LEGIT contenders?! 

Post#208 » by iLLmatic860 » Wed Jun 26, 2024 5:24 pm

Hello Brooklyn wrote:
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Jcity08 wrote:
You mean this OG right?


Lmaoo dudes just be talking out they ass on the gb. Say **** without doing simple search

Og is one of the few guys in the league that can contain Giannis


One stupid Youtube clip means OG can guard Giannis???? :lol:

Now I've heard it all. I hope you guys go with that strategy.

Also funny how you assume OG is coming back to the Knicks.

What if he goes to Philly for a bigger role?

Don't count your eggs before they hatch.

Dont you have some 12 year old middle school prospects to evaluate for the 2031 draft?
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Post#209 » by iLLmatic860 » Wed Jun 26, 2024 5:26 pm

ccvle wrote:knicks were at their best when they keep missing shots and getting offensive rebounds.

Actually one simple search will show you when they actually were at “their best”

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Re: are the Knicks LEGIT contenders?! 

Post#210 » by phraoh » Wed Jun 26, 2024 5:29 pm

Its WAY too early in the offseason to know the answer to that question. If they lose OG and Hartenstein without any significant replacements, then I would say they are contenders, but might not be considered top 3, depending on the other teams off season in the East. Depending on transactions that happen, Philly, Indiana, Orlando, and Cleveland could become expected to finish as high or higher than NY. Boston, is a given, and Miami also could take a step up, so the answer to me is its too soon to tell. BUT, I think it was a great move by NY to make the trade really only giving up draft picks. I know those unrestricted # 1's could become VERY valuable to Brooklyn, but unless you get lucky in the lottery, they might not mean much, and it won't be known the full effect for several years.
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Re: are the Knicks LEGIT contenders?! 

Post#211 » by blueNorange » Wed Jun 26, 2024 5:29 pm

Hello Brooklyn wrote:
omerome wrote:
Hello Brooklyn wrote:
3rd option on Philly v 4th option in NYC. Not saying it will happen.

But its possible. Isn't it?

Bridges/OG/Randle sounds like a very crowded front court.

Which is why - especially in this age of position less basketball, you can play Bridges, OG, and Randle together as your 2, 3, and 4.

Bridges would do so much more defensively than what Divo did as the 2 and he still can make plays for himself or creating passing lanes for Brunson and others. This will also open up the floor for OG as teams can't cheat on anyone and when the ball swings, he's either open to shoot or he can take it to the basket.


Look it could work. I'm just saying he might want to leave.

Especially if they offer him more money. Don't assume its locked up.

If I'm the Sixers I'd love to take OG away from the Knicks.

how can the sixers offer og more money when the knicks can offer the most?
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Re: are the Knicks LEGIT contenders?! 

Post#212 » by ___Rand___ » Wed Jun 26, 2024 5:30 pm

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You give Bridges too much credit. He's not a 2. He's a 3.


I'd be inclined to agree, although he's a pretty nice stretch between the two positions. In this age of "position-less" basketball, attaching him to one over another doesn't really do his versatility much justice.


I don't think he means 2 as in SG and 3 as SF. He means 2 as in #2 option and 3 as in #3 option.


You got it dude. That's what I meant. Bridges is a 3rd option.
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Re: are the Knicks LEGIT contenders?! 

Post#213 » by ___Rand___ » Wed Jun 26, 2024 5:35 pm

Yeah I don't think Knicks are LEGIT contenders. I think they are A contender. This is an excellent starting 5. Doesn't take them over the top. Doesn't make them a contender like Boston or Denver. But they are in the conversation.
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Re: are the Knicks LEGIT contenders?! 

Post#214 » by hugepatsfan » Wed Jun 26, 2024 5:35 pm

It's probably too premature to specifically talk about their matchups vs. BOS or whoever until we see what happens with OG and (to a lesser extent) Hartenstein. It's not unfathomable to me that PHI could overpay for OG and the Thunder for Hartenstein to lure them both away. It's also not unrealistic to think NYK re-signs OG and dumps Mitch Robinson to keep Hartenstein. Could also see them keeping OG but losing Hartenstein and "settling" for Robinson back at the 5. Three different plausible outcomes that make me feel very different about the Knicks.

But for the OP's general question, there's enough pieces in place to where the answer should be yes. They were the 2nd seed last year and probably get to the ECF if they weren't crazy injured. Strong case that they're the 2nd team in the conference and how is the 2nd team in a conference NOT a contender?
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Re: are the Knicks LEGIT contenders?! 

Post#215 » by ryguy613 » Wed Jun 26, 2024 5:35 pm

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ryguy613 wrote:Lots of talent, but not sure they have that ONE guy. Theres only been one 2004 Pistons. I like Brunson but I would still contend hes a 2. Also like Bridges but... I would also contend hes a 2. We will see if they can make it all work without a true super star.


How much of a superstar did the Boston Celtics have in the most recent nba playoff?


I think Tatum is a legit superstar who suffers from inconsistent play, not unlike some other superstars in the league come playoff time.
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Re: are the Knicks LEGIT contenders?! 

Post#216 » by ryguy613 » Wed Jun 26, 2024 5:39 pm

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ryguy613 wrote:Lots of talent, but not sure they have that ONE guy. Theres only been one 2004 Pistons. I like Brunson but I would still contend hes a 2. Also like Bridges but... I would also contend hes a 2. We will see if they can make it all work without a true super star.

I didn't know Becky Hammond had an account here.


not really following the joke here. Did Becky Hammon make some kind of comment about the Knicks?
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Re: are the Knicks LEGIT contenders?! 

Post#217 » by Larry_Russell » Wed Jun 26, 2024 5:41 pm

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ccvle wrote:knicks were at their best when they keep missing shots and getting offensive rebounds.

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Post#218 » by azcatz11 » Wed Jun 26, 2024 5:42 pm

Knicks are #2 in the east assuming they sign OG and everyone stays healthy.
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Post#219 » by azcatz11 » Wed Jun 26, 2024 5:42 pm

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I'd be inclined to agree, although he's a pretty nice stretch between the two positions. In this age of "position-less" basketball, attaching him to one over another doesn't really do his versatility much justice.


I don't think he means 2 as in SG and 3 as SF. He means 2 as in #2 option and 3 as in #3 option.


You got it dude. That's what I meant. Bridges is a 3rd option.


I was thinking about this all last night...this Knicks team is the team that Massai wanted for the Raps...
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Re: are the Knicks LEGIT contenders?! 

Post#220 » by ryguy613 » Wed Jun 26, 2024 5:43 pm

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ryguy613 wrote: Lots of talent, but not sure they have that ONE guy. Theres only been one 2004 Pistons. I like Brunson but I would still contend hes a 2. Also like Bridges but... I would also contend hes a 2. We will see if they can make it all work without a true super star.


You give Bridges too much credit. He's not a 2. He's a 3.


maybe, but any team using him as a #3 option would be pretty damn lucky. I think he'd be the best #3 in the league.

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