are the Knicks LEGIT contenders?!

[khufure]

They're a 60 win team if they resign OG & Hartenstein. Yes, absolutely. Brunson is legit and I love Thibs defense teams.

You could say it about every team, but durability concerns are always a thing and notably this is a Thibs team. When he was with the Bulls I thought it was a combination of bad luck, Bulls at the time medical staff, and organizational missing pieces (development, nutrition, whole-body cryotherapy, etc.) to not have better durability. I don't really put it on Thibs. But maybe it's an accessory to him and his coaching staff that gets missed. It's worth mentioning. And NYK teams historically have terrible luck.

[doogie_hauser]

I don't think it would be a disaster for the Knicks if they blink and walk away if OG's contract demands are too excessive..

His frequent injury history make him a risky investment of sorts.

Granted the Knicks win-loss % when OG was in their line up was extraordinary.

The longer this draws on, the more likely he is leaving it seems unfortunately

[omerome]

Lots of talent, but not sure they have that ONE guy. Theres only been one 2004 Pistons. I like Brunson but I would still contend hes a 2. Also like Bridges but... I would also contend hes a 2. We will see if they can make it all work without a true super star.

I didn't know Becky Hammond had an account here.

not really following the joke here. Did Becky Hammon make some kind of comment about the Knicks?

[KingofTheClay]

Yes. 76ers did the same thing with Tobias Harris and it made them legit.

Comparing DPOY-Caliber Bridges to bum Harris?

The green teamers have never watched a single non Celtics game in their lives. I highly doubt they watch their own team, they just Stan for Tatum.


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. Both cost far too much..

They gave up nearly Triple the Derrick White trade to Boston...

Sure it’s an overpay.

But if we’re looking at it from a standpoint of something tangible, in terms of player collection, they got a lot better.

Bridges is not Tobias Harris, not remotely close.


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[iLLmatic860]

knicks were at their best when they keep missing shots and getting offensive rebounds.

Actually one simple search will show you when they actually were at “their best”

Read on Twitter

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With wins agains juggernaughts like

Bulls
Wizards X2
Blazers
Grizzlies
Nets
Hornets
Raptors

Dallas minus Luka

Also beat Wolves , Sixers, nuggets and heat,

So you actually think the depleted Knicks in the playoffs are better than Knicks at full strength?

What are you even arguing here?

[Almond2Oak]

Will be glorious when Knicks win nothing like always, mortgage all their future picks on Mikal Bridges :lmao:

[ryguy613]

I didn't know Becky Hammond had an account here.

not really following the joke here. Did Becky Hammon make some kind of comment about the Knicks?

I see. I dont follow NBA Today closely enough to know about these talking points... though as you pointed out i generally agree with her point. im not going as far as she is. i think this team COULD succeed, im just saying its a harder path. it doesnt happen very often.

[Karate Diop]

I think this move - if Randle buys into a lesser role certainly moves them into the contender conversation on paper. The East isn't particularly strong, so why not?

[omerome]

I think this move - if Randle buys into a lesser role certainly moves them into the contender conversation on paper. The East isn't particularly strong, so why not?

The think was, last year before he got hurt, he did buy in. Which is why after the OG trade, the Knicks were a very good team.

[Ben-N1ce]

Comparing DPOY-Caliber Bridges to bum Harris?

The green teamers have never watched a single non Celtics game in their lives. I highly doubt they watch their own team, they just Stan for Tatum.


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. Both cost far too much..

They gave up nearly Triple the Derrick White trade to Boston...

Sure it’s an overpay.

But if we’re looking at it from a standpoint of something tangible, in terms of player collection, they got a lot better.

Bridges is not Tobias Harris, not remotely close.


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If they lose OG how is this trade considered good with how much they gave up to upgrade him?

[KingofTheClay]

. Both cost far too much..

They gave up nearly Triple the Derrick White trade to Boston...

Sure it’s an overpay.

But if we’re looking at it from a standpoint of something tangible, in terms of player collection, they got a lot better.

Bridges is not Tobias Harris, not remotely close.


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If they lose OG how is this trade considered good with how much they gave up to upgrade him?

They’re expected to keep OG according to multiple ESPN sources


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[Iwasawitness]

not even close.

Knicks mortgaged their ENTIRE future for a 3rd tier star. Knicks gon Knick

Their entire future is in the current team they have now. They’re going to be a playoff team for the rest of the decade. They’ll be fine.

[Larry_Russell]

Actually one simple search will show you when they actually were at “their best”

Read on Twitter

?s=46&t=tVloFuZHnRcV_n-C8CiW9Q

With wins agains juggernaughts like

Bulls
Wizards X2
Blazers
Grizzlies
Nets
Hornets
Raptors

Dallas minus Luka

Also beat Wolves , Sixers, nuggets and heat,

So you actually think the depleted Knicks in the playoffs are better than Knicks at full strength?

What are you even arguing here?

I think its pretty clear what point I am making.

[blueNorange]

Will be glorious when Knicks win nothing like always, mortgage all their future picks on Mikal Bridges :lmao:

lol you have nothing much going on if this is what youre looking for

[blueNorange]

knicks were at their best when they keep missing shots and getting offensive rebounds.

Actually one simple search will show you when they actually were at “their best”

Read on Twitter

?s=46&t=tVloFuZHnRcV_n-C8CiW9Q

With wins agains juggernaughts like

Bulls
Wizards X2
Blazers
Grizzlies
Nets
Hornets
Raptors

Dallas minus Luka

copium

[chrisab123]

I like Brunson, and Bridges will be considered a top 15 player in NYC because of the Media. However, you can't put them as the favorite against Boston, Denver, Minnesota or even a healthy Milwaukee. The media will however play it off as the Knicks can/will win the East, but in my mind they aren't really a threat. Good team but as presently constructed they aren't there.

[Larry_Russell]

Sure it’s an overpay.

But if we’re looking at it from a standpoint of something tangible, in terms of player collection, they got a lot better.

Bridges is not Tobias Harris, not remotely close.


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If they lose OG how is this trade considered good with how much they gave up to upgrade him?

They’re expected to keep OG according to multiple ESPN sources


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I am sure they expect too.

There is no way they traded pieces away to get him, only to let him walk away. The question is: Does OG want NYK, especially after they traded for Mikal, or does another team overpay for him.

I think the odds are higher that someone either overpays or OG wants to be a second option somewhere.

[Zenzibar]

Will be glorious when Knicks win nothing like always, mortgage all their future picks on Mikal Bridges :lmao:

I know you're a Celtic fan and is one of the most likable teams in the NBA but less you are reminded about Mikal, there's this:

Watch on YouTube

Watch on YouTube

[omerome]

I like Brunson, and Bridges will be considered a top 15 player in NYC because of the Media. However, you can't put them as the favorite against Boston, Denver, Minnesota or even a healthy Milwaukee. The media will however play it off as the Knicks can/will win the East, but in my mind they aren't really a threat. Good team but as presently constructed they aren't there.

A healthy Milwaukee is something we haven't seen in at least two seasons and they are an older team. A team that lost a lot of their defensive identity when they traded Jrue.

So the only other team left on that list is Boston. Which means, it's likely they would face each other in the ECF. And if by chance they do get past Boston, they are DEFINITELY a legit contender.

So, I don't understand why it's out of the question.

[chrisab123]

I like Brunson, and Bridges will be considered a top 15 player in NYC because of the Media. However, you can't put them as the favorite against Boston, Denver, Minnesota or even a healthy Milwaukee. The media will however play it off as the Knicks can/will win the East, but in my mind they aren't really a threat. Good team but as presently constructed they aren't there.

A healthy Milwaukee is something we haven't seen in at least two seasons and they are an older team. A team that lost a lot of their defensive identity when they traded Jrue.

So the only other team left on that list is Boston. Which means, it's likely they would face each other in the ECF. And if by chance they do get past Boston, they are DEFINITELY a legit contender.

So, I don't understand why it's out of the question.

Its not out of the question that by the end of next year that the Knicks won't contend. But as of right now I can't say they're a threat like those teams mentioned previously.