DeAndre Jordan re-signs with the Clippers, DJ rescinds agreement with the Dallas Mavericks

SK21209 · Post #301 » by **SK21209** » Wed Jul 8, 2015 6:12 pm

If DJ backs out, Cuban will unleash a fury unlike anything this world has ever seen :evil:

BigBennett2013 · Post #302 » by **BigBennett2013** » Wed Jul 8, 2015 6:12 pm

DeAndre Jordan could single-handedly eliminate the Mavs from the playoffs

kayliecee · Post #303 » by **kayliecee** » Wed Jul 8, 2015 6:13 pm

jbk1234 wrote:
kayliecee wrote:http://thelawdictionary.org/article/is-a-verbal-agreement-legally-binding/
"Verbal agreements and oral contracts are generally valid and legally binding as long as they are reasonable, equitable, conscionable and made in good faith."

I can't even fathom the potential lawsuits that could result from Jordan reneging. So many moves made as a result of Jordan agreeing to this.

Unless there is a written contract negating oral agreements - that's the CBA. You've got to get the contract in writing.

Are you saying the CBA declares that verbal agreements are not binding? I'm not sure that would hold up and I think there could be a case made for reneging on a contract. The law is always tricky, but if anyone would pursue this, it's Cuban. It would be a mess, which I'd assume Silver wouldn't want.

Post #304 » by **dockingsched** » Wed Jul 8, 2015 6:13 pm

2011Champs wrote:
rockersdash wrote:
Chuck Texas wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/ChandlerParsons/status/618842569133305857[/tweet]

Parsons about to give some mean head

Lol
Whatever it takes

[tweet]http://twitter.com/JJRedick/status/618844949413433344[/tweet]

Wonderllama · Post #305 » by **Wonderllama** » Wed Jul 8, 2015 6:14 pm

How much was the Clippers' offer, anyway? They could give DJ a bit more, right?

rockersdash · Post #306 » by **rockersdash** » Wed Jul 8, 2015 6:14 pm

dockingsched wrote:
2011Champs wrote:
rockersdash wrote:
Parsons about to give some mean head

Lol
Whatever it takes

[tweet]http://twitter.com/JJRedick/status/618844949413433344[/tweet]

lool this is madness

Wonderllama wrote:How much was the Clippers' offer, anyway? They could give DJ a bit more, right?

~30 million more

2011Champs · Post #307 » by **2011Champs** » Wed Jul 8, 2015 6:15 pm

There needs to be a free agent free for all right now. All verbal commitments off!

Jordan45822 · Post #308 » by **Jordan45822** » Wed Jul 8, 2015 6:15 pm

Wonderllama wrote:How much was the Clippers' offer, anyway? They could give DJ a bit more, right?

they offered 5 years $110 million from the jump.

Post #309 » by **dockingsched** » Wed Jul 8, 2015 6:15 pm

If Jordan ends up staying with the Mavs after putting the clips through this... wow

[tweet]http://twitter.com/ramonashelburne/status/618841134203142144[/tweet]

WolvesGuy14 · Post #310 » by **WolvesGuy14** » Wed Jul 8, 2015 6:16 pm

rockersdash wrote:
JamesConway wrote:JKidd screwed us exactly like that once, but a) there's really no way I think this happens again & b) if it does you'd obviously don't want DeAndre in a Mavs jersey anyway. But let's chill a little here, Stein's not reporting that DeAndre is overthinking his decision, he's solely reporting about the Clippers' FO playing overly attached EX-GF & nothing more.

In the article it says that
Jordan has told people close to him since picking Dallas that he's still "torn" and "unsure" about his choice.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/13221695/los-angeles-clippers-lobbying-deandre-jordan-back-deal-dallas-mavericks

You didn't mention who gave the information.

rockersdash · Post #311 » by **rockersdash** » Wed Jul 8, 2015 6:16 pm

Planes, Trains & Automobiles

Post #312 » by **jbk1234** » Wed Jul 8, 2015 6:16 pm

kayliecee wrote:
jbk1234 wrote:
kayliecee wrote:http://thelawdictionary.org/article/is-a-verbal-agreement-legally-binding/
"Verbal agreements and oral contracts are generally valid and legally binding as long as they are reasonable, equitable, conscionable and made in good faith."

I can't even fathom the potential lawsuits that could result from Jordan reneging. So many moves made as a result of Jordan agreeing to this.

Unless there is a written contract negating oral agreements - that's the CBA. You've got to get the contract in writing.

Are you saying the CBA declares that verbal agreements are not binding? I'm not sure that would hold up and I think there could be a case made for reneging on a contract. The law is always tricky, but if anyone would pursue this, it's Cuban. It would be a mess, which I'd assume Silver wouldn't want.

Yes. The CBA doesn't permit oral commitments. All contracts must be in writing. In some cases, parties can even be punished for coming to oral agreements if the intent is to get around the CBA. That's why Boozer got away with lying to the Cavs former owner - who was actually a blind man.

sogood · Post #313 » by **sogood** » Wed Jul 8, 2015 6:16 pm

Didn't Turkoglu do this with Portland?

Post #314 » by **PaulieWal** » Wed Jul 8, 2015 6:16 pm

2011Champs wrote:There needs to be a free agent free for all right now. All verbal commitments off!

Sort of like Royal Rumble between all the GMs and owners. Last man in the ring gets his pick of all the free agents, previous commitments mean nothing.

BigBennett2013 · Post #315 » by **BigBennett2013** » Wed Jul 8, 2015 6:16 pm

DJ is the Leverage King if he pulls this off

Kilo · Post #316 » by **Kilo** » Wed Jul 8, 2015 6:16 pm

FNQ wrote:Dont blame Doc or the Clippers at all here.. DeAndre called Doc himself to say he wasnt sure about the decision. So really, this is all on DJ being kind of a punk after agreeing to sign in Dallas.

Riiight.

kayliecee · Post #317 » by **kayliecee** » Wed Jul 8, 2015 6:17 pm

MGB8 wrote:It might well impact Wesley Matthews - I could see the Mavs following suit and telling Matthews that the offer was conditional on Jordan signing, and since he didn't sign, he's a FA again.

Matthews would still get paid, but a lot of money has been tied up already, so maybe not as much...

What offer? if none of these "agreements" are binding until a written contract is signed, there was no offer. Teams could make agreements with players just to mess up other teams, then pull out on July 9th at midnight. The NBA has to fix this or they could have anarchy.

TheNewEra · Post #318 » by **TheNewEra** » Wed Jul 8, 2015 6:17 pm

Parsons headed to DJ. Hope the Clips sign Metta World Peace to cut him off.

BigBennett2013 · Post #319 » by **BigBennett2013** » Wed Jul 8, 2015 6:17 pm

Really though how can you turn down that extra year of $30 million?

MartinToVaught · Post #320 » by **MartinToVaught** » Wed Jul 8, 2015 6:18 pm

Looks like this franchise is satisfied with second-round exits and watching the Warriors win championships from their couch the next five years. This is really pathetic. I don't care that DJ started this by having second thoughts - the groveling is still pathetic for a player who is still NOT worth that kind of money or attention. Period.