Jeremy Lin getting bullied on the Rockets

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Post#41 » by No35 » Fri Nov 8, 2013 5:14 pm

AddiFB wrote:All I can say is, after Dwight left Orlando, the Magic are a WHOLE lot more fun to watch. There's just so much more enjoyment and chemistry in this team. Yes, different players, but you can see it in Jameer escpecially. The young guys are all in good spirits and connecting well. There's no big clown dramab*tch dragging everybody down or publicly throwing them under the bus.

Dwight is a self-centered, overly-selfattached, d*ckhead who takes no responsibility or leads a team. JJ Redick once laughed or chuckled when a reporter asked him about Dwight's words on him being a leader of the Magic. He isn't. He blames and points fingers. Everybody else is to blame, yet he is so often the main reason his teams lose. He and Harden suit eachother well.

It must be a joy to watch your boy Vuc not fumble his way around in the post.
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Post#42 » by KungFuJoe » Fri Nov 8, 2013 5:17 pm

DH on last nights game:

"WE missed some free throws"

On the last play:

"Guys just messed up on the play...it happens".

LOL.
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Post#43 » by TommyB » Fri Nov 8, 2013 5:19 pm

KungFuJoe wrote:DH on last nights game:

"WE missed some free throws"

On the last play:

"Guys just messed up on the play...it happens".

LOL.


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Post#44 » by KungFuJoe » Fri Nov 8, 2013 5:20 pm

AJ Valliant wrote:Have we become so soft that athletes yelling at each other about in game performance in the emotionaly charged moments after a loss is considered bullying? By this standard Jordan never would have been able to come within 100 yard of the arena because of all the restraining orders his teamamtes had against him. Man the F**k up, be a competitor, let it fuel you. This isn't kindergarten...show some f**king testosterone.


There's a difference when the guy yelling at you is also out there giving 110% himself. Kobe and Jordan excelled on both ends of the court.

It's a whole other thing watching Harden play lazy hero ball, not giving a **** on D, and then yelling at you for taking a bad shot when Parsons SHOULD have taken the three but YET AGAIN pump fakes, drives nowhere then has to dish the ball back to Lin with 3 seconds left. Dwight can't make a free throw and screws up the switch on the final play.

THESE are the guys yelling at Lin.
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Post#45 » by AJ Valliant » Fri Nov 8, 2013 5:22 pm

KungFuJoe wrote:
AJ Valliant wrote:Have we become so soft that athletes yelling at each other about in game performance in the emotionaly charged moments after a loss is considered bullying? By this standard Jordan never would have been able to come within 100 yard of the arena because of all the restraining orders his teamamtes had against him. Man the F**k up, be a competitor, let it fuel you. This isn't kindergarten...show some f**king testosterone.


There's a difference when the guy yelling at you is also out there giving 110% himself. Kobe and Jordan excelled on both ends of the court.

It's a whole other thing watching Harden play lazy hero ball, not giving a **** on D, and then yelling at you for taking a bad shot when Parsons SHOULD have taken the three but YET AGAIN pump fakes, drives nowhere then has to dish the ball back to Lin with 3 seconds left. Dwight can't make a free throw and screws up the switch on the final play.

THESE are the guys yelling at Lin.


Sure, it's unwarranted. It's **** being a overpaid rotation player...the stars yell at you. That's not bullying, that's the nature of professional sports. He can dry his tears with the tens of millions of dollars he makes to eat the occasional pile of unearned ****. To equate it to systematic bullying like an outraged soccer mom is weaksauce.
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Post#46 » by Sc0pe92 » Fri Nov 8, 2013 5:26 pm

In that gif it looks like Lin was being held by Nash not letting him to switch
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Post#47 » by MaxRider » Fri Nov 8, 2013 5:27 pm

litex wrote:
mg wrote:I see them dealing Lin and doing it fairly soon. Maybe to Toronto for Lowry or to Phoenix for Dragic? Rockets would have to throw in some future picks or something to get it done but it's starting to look like a potentially bad situation. Haven't commented on the Dwight/Asik frontcourt but don't see that working long term in today's NBA..it's not the 80's anymore.


In terms of game and temperament, Lin would be an ideal fit with San Antonio. I'd love to see him learn from Tony Parker and a coach who actually knows what he's doing.

i would love to see Lin and Asik traded to SAS
this way i can totally ignore the Rockets and rooting for the Spurs
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Post#48 » by TommyB » Fri Nov 8, 2013 5:28 pm

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KungFuJoe wrote:
AJ Valliant wrote:Have we become so soft that athletes yelling at each other about in game performance in the emotionaly charged moments after a loss is considered bullying? By this standard Jordan never would have been able to come within 100 yard of the arena because of all the restraining orders his teamamtes had against him. Man the F**k up, be a competitor, let it fuel you. This isn't kindergarten...show some f**king testosterone.


There's a difference when the guy yelling at you is also out there giving 110% himself. Kobe and Jordan excelled on both ends of the court.

It's a whole other thing watching Harden play lazy hero ball, not giving a **** on D, and then yelling at you for taking a bad shot when Parsons SHOULD have taken the three but YET AGAIN pump fakes, drives nowhere then has to dish the ball back to Lin with 3 seconds left. Dwight can't make a free throw and screws up the switch on the final play.

THESE are the guys yelling at Lin.


Sure, it's unwarranted. It's **** being a overpaid rotation player...the stars yell at you. That's not bullying, that's the nature of professional sports. He can dry his tears with the tens of millions of dollars he makes to eat the occasional pile of unearned ****. To equate it to systematic bullying like an outraged soccer mom is weaksauce.


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Re: Jeremy Lin getting bullied on the Rockets 

Post#49 » by Massamba » Fri Nov 8, 2013 5:28 pm

SoulInTheHole7 wrote:
Massamba wrote:BTW there is no big on Lin being bullied. On every teams it happens. They communicate.
Can someone explain this : When Kobe or Jordan act like this on their temates you say it's leadership. When it's Harden and Howard you say they are toxic.... :roll:


Kobe and Jordan in their primes generally gave full effort on both ends.

Harden simply wants to ISO, and pat his PPG numbers, and Howard is well...... Howard.

Howard gives full effort on both ends of the floor, but he isn't very skilled as an offensive player. Just look at Pau Gasol, he is very skilled, but last night he was like ZERO. Sucked in O and D.
Harden has to improve his D, but when he was in OKC he was a good defender. I guess he isn't the kind of athlete like Kobe or Jordan who can give 100% on both ends. He needs to work on it or use PED. :D
People act like this guy aren't humans. Maybe the coach should try to decrease Harden's responsabilities in Offense and give him more rest instead of waitting for Harden to be the heros in Offense. It's the exact same situation than Kobe last year. Kobe used to be great on both ends, but now he can't give it. He was horrible on D. Who's responsable for this?
In my opinion, Kobe wasn't gulty for the most part, the coache was. If you are the coache you have to manage your players energy.
And look at LeBron James, he isn't the athlete he used to be, but he can give 100% on Offense and 100% on Defense, because he doesn't have to carry his team on Offense. Paul Goerge is in the same situation. They move the ball, they just wait their time to shine in offense.
How can you expect a player like Harden to do what these super-athletes can't do?

McHale is gulty for this. This is why you have to give Howard more touches or plays for him. This is why you have to have good systems and ball movement. He isn't a great offensive player, but it can help Harden. D'Antoni should have made the same thing last year with the lakers. He made the same mistake with Nash and Amar'e in PHX. Don't expect them to give effort on D or ask them to use PED.
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Post#50 » by NiqtheAntiq » Fri Nov 8, 2013 5:32 pm

I saw a Houston game last weekend and the team looked pretty good except for the fact that its obvious Harden
needs help on the scoring load. Dwight just sort of just rebounds the ball and gets back on D. I don't think he really helps on the offensive end as much as Houston fans anticipated.

Love Lin and think he is a great team player yet he is being put in a position to be a go to guy and he is really more comfortable as a complimentary type player. Maybe Houston needs to trade him or Asik for a scorer?
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Post#51 » by AJ Valliant » Fri Nov 8, 2013 5:34 pm

TommyB wrote:

Sure, it's unwarranted. It's **** being a overpaid rotation player...the stars yell at you. That's not bullying, that's the nature of professional sports. He can dry his tears with the tens of millions of dollars he makes to eat the occasional pile of unearned ****. To equate it to systematic bullying like an outraged soccer mom is weaksauce.


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Re: Jeremy Lin getting bullied on the Rockets 

Post#52 » by khufure » Fri Nov 8, 2013 5:34 pm

Massamba wrote:And look at LeBron James, he isn't the athlete he used to be

uh what? he's in his prime, 28. he's at his physical peak.
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Post#53 » by No35 » Fri Nov 8, 2013 5:34 pm

NiqtheAntiq wrote:I saw a Houston game last weekend and the team looked pretty good except for the fact that its obvious Harden
needs help on the scoring load. Dwight just sort of just rebounds the ball and gets back on D. I don't think he really helps on the offensive end as much as Houston fans anticipated.

Love Lin and think he is a great team player yet he is being put in a position to be a go to guy and he is really more comfortable as a complimentary type player. Maybe Houston needs to trade him or Asik for a scorer?

Hard to score when your team doesn't even let you touch the ball.
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Post#54 » by Flash Falcon X » Fri Nov 8, 2013 5:37 pm

litex wrote:Btw, while I 100% agree that Howard and Harden are being whiny bitches, and that Lin doesn't deserve this ****, I question whether this can really be considered "bullying." Bullying to my mind is stuff like the Incognito situation with players threatening each other, or even some of Jordan's old antics with punching teammates and the like. This doesn't seem like abuse, more just like Harden and Howard are scapegoating Lin for their own screwups.


Either way it's still wrong. Harden needs to learn how to admit to his mistakes and play within the offensive plays and actually try on defense. Dwight Howard needs to stop acting high and mighty and learn to admit that his free throws are a big reason why Houston lost the game.
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Post#55 » by KungFuJoe » Fri Nov 8, 2013 5:40 pm

NiqtheAntiq wrote:I saw a Houston game last weekend and the team looked pretty good except for the fact that its obvious Harden
needs help on the scoring load. Dwight just sort of just rebounds the ball and gets back on D. I don't think he really helps on the offensive end as much as Houston fans anticipated.

Love Lin and think he is a great team player yet he is being put in a position to be a go to guy and he is really more comfortable as a complimentary type player. Maybe Houston needs to trade him or Asik for a scorer?


You sure you watched a Houston game?

You sure you didn't just have a DREAM about watching a Houston game?
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Re: Jeremy Lin getting bullied on the Rockets 

Post#56 » by LeBronte Jest » Fri Nov 8, 2013 5:40 pm

AddiFB wrote:All I can say is, after Dwight left Los Angeles, the Lakers are a WHOLE lot more fun to watch. There's just so much more enjoyment and chemistry in this team. Yes, different players, but you can see it in EVERYONE escpecially. The young guys are all in good spirits and connecting well. There's no big clown dramab*tch dragging everybody down or publicly throwing them under the bus.

Dwight is a self-centered, overly-selfattached, d*ckhead who takes no responsibility or leads a team. JJ Redick once laughed or chuckled when a reporter asked him about Dwight's words on him being a leader of the Magic. He isn't. He blames and points fingers. Everybody else is to blame, yet he is so often the main reason his teams lose. He and Harden suit eachother well.


Borrowed that from you, lol.
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Post#57 » by red32 » Fri Nov 8, 2013 5:41 pm

Maybe getting blamed but not bullied. Title needs to be changed.
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Post#58 » by Asianiac_24 » Fri Nov 8, 2013 5:41 pm

This just further proves that Dwight Howard is toxic and a even bigger locker room cancer than even guys like Kobe and Shaq ever was. Every team he goes to has locker room issues.
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Post#59 » by AddiFB » Fri Nov 8, 2013 5:41 pm

No35 wrote:
AddiFB wrote:All I can say is, after Dwight left Orlando, the Magic are a WHOLE lot more fun to watch. There's just so much more enjoyment and chemistry in this team. Yes, different players, but you can see it in Jameer escpecially. The young guys are all in good spirits and connecting well. There's no big clown dramab*tch dragging everybody down or publicly throwing them under the bus.

Dwight is a self-centered, overly-selfattached, d*ckhead who takes no responsibility or leads a team. JJ Redick once laughed or chuckled when a reporter asked him about Dwight's words on him being a leader of the Magic. He isn't. He blames and points fingers. Everybody else is to blame, yet he is so often the main reason his teams lose. He and Harden suit eachother well.

It must be a joy to watch your boy Vuc not fumble his way around in the post.


Oh you have no idea. Vuc is everything on offense that Dwight isn't. Yes, his D is lacking, but it has improved. Our D so far has been pretty good considering the average age and experience.
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Post#60 » by AddiFB » Fri Nov 8, 2013 5:42 pm

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AddiFB wrote:All I can say is, after Dwight left Los Angeles, the Lakers are a WHOLE lot more fun to watch. There's just so much more enjoyment and chemistry in this team. Yes, different players, but you can see it in EVERYONE escpecially. The young guys are all in good spirits and connecting well. There's no big clown dramab*tch dragging everybody down or publicly throwing them under the bus.

Dwight is a self-centered, overly-selfattached, d*ckhead who takes no responsibility or leads a team. JJ Redick once laughed or chuckled when a reporter asked him about Dwight's words on him being a leader of the Magic. He isn't. He blames and points fingers. Everybody else is to blame, yet he is so often the main reason his teams lose. He and Harden suit eachother well.


Borrowed that from you, lol.


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