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The Nets - What are they? 

Post#41 » by Paradise » Mon Dec 17, 2018 9:01 pm

Phish Tank wrote:Nets are a pretty fun team to watch. Will force teams to take them seriously. Coached damn well. Got a roster full of players without ego and play for their coach. They're doing it the right way. Sure, they'll lose their fair share of games, but it's alright.

Real question is what do they do next year? They have a lot of cap space if they renounce all their cap holds, including DLo and RHJ. But that leaves them with very few players to work with. And they now have Dinwiddie's new contract to account for. Is it enough to attract a star FA? Is there any room to add anyone else of significance after that?


I’m getting a sense that we’re trending to be in the market for Khris Middleton, Tobias Harris, Kemba Walker, Paul Millsap and possibly Kevin Love but they won’t hesitate to renounce both Russell/RHJ if there is any real noise to KD wanting to come here and that leaves us with $46 million.

LeVert, Allen, Dinwiddie, Harris, Kurucs, Napier (?), Musa, 2019 1st, 2019 DEN 1st, NYK 2nd is whats left once removing Russell, RHJ.

That’s nine total players under contract with Davis expected to be back and I’m sure we could bring back Carroll on the cheap. Napier has a team option but we could opt to replace him via the draft.

It doesn’t look sexy on paper but...

- Allen is one of the top rim protectors and a double double leader for his draft class.

- Harris is the best shooter in the league and an A+ finisher around the rim. Dude dropped 30 on LeBron. He’s significantly improved and now he’s adding playmaking to the list.

- Dinwiddie goes from Most Improved Award darkhorse to Sixth Man Of The Year contender. His shooting is cool and all but his finishing ability is starting to get scary good. I don’t see him as a long term starter unless it’s for a super team. As a personality, New York City is starting to catch on, appearing on Rachel Ray Show last year and 50 Cent just co-signed his new sneaker line.

- Kurucs is the steal of the draft. 6’9. Can go from SG to PF and his feel for the game is Kirilenko like. He’s been a projected 1st round pick since 2016 that GM’s botched horribly over fears of Barcelona’s buyout.

- Musa is tearing up the G-League as he continues to bulk up. He’s definitely good as advertised. He’ll be a contributor real soon.

Our two picks likely get packaged to move up. If not, Rui Hachimura, Morant, Nassir Little are among the list of likely candidates with our pick.

All of those elements in an offense that is generally mirroring the principles and analytics of the Houston Rockets and Golden State Warriors should be attractive to at least ONE Max FA.

Nets wanted Jimmy Butler but he quickly showed he’s a douchebag disliking Dinwiddie’s extension post on IG. So, he’s not coming here anymore and I’m sure the feeling is mutual.
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Post#42 » by Pachinko_ » Mon Dec 17, 2018 9:19 pm

The nets are doing well. It felt like they lost a million games in the last seconds but finally they're putting some wins together. IMO opinion they're doing a rebuild right: first you fix your system with whatever players you have available and then you start adding players that fit. The will be good soon.

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Post#43 » by Nuntius » Mon Dec 17, 2018 9:59 pm

They are a team I really, really like. I think that ultimately they'd want to have a high pick for one more year but they have a lot of young guys that I like a lot. I basically like all of the players 25 and under (Allen, LeVert, Hollis-Jefferson, Dinwiddie, Pinson, Kurucs) plus Joe Harris. Not that their vets are bad (I like Faried even though he rarely plays and I also really like Ed Davis) but you know, the young guys are the ones that I'd target to bring to my team :P
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Post#44 » by Nebkreb11 » Mon Dec 17, 2018 10:01 pm

As everyoen else has said, they have a fantastic structure in place - they need a superstar or two. Levert looked like he was making The Leap before he got hurt. Allen has become great and will hopefully become a game-changing big man on both ends. Dinwiddie just got rewarded with a nice (but team-friendly) deal after making his career out of nothing. They need that alpha dog to go to the next level. Absolute best-case scenario they get Durant (or someone in that stratosphere).

One thing no one has mentioned: literally every player has raved about the culture and infrastructure the team has built in Brooklyn. All of their facilities and training areas are state-of-the-art and every single player who plays against or coach who coaches against them raves about how great they're doing.
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Post#45 » by nbafan38 » Mon Dec 17, 2018 10:54 pm

They are 3 insane losses (76ers, Grizzlies, Thunder) like games a team loses 1 out of 100 times type losses from being over .500 right now. With Levert I think they are a playoff team, without him probably not but close in the weak east.
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Post#46 » by dakomish23 » Mon Dec 17, 2018 11:43 pm

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THE J0KER wrote:Nets have no stars but were a super-deep team, especially before LeVert injury. 8 starter level players are a great achievement for team management considering they have no own draft picks lately. But they desperately need a star, and should finally to start to use since next summer the fact that Brooklyn is a much bigger market than New Jersey.


They're the same market but ok, lol.


its very much not the same.


Yep. Even just when it comes to going to games. Knicks fans sometimes go to their games to see the other teams / players. They weren’t taking that trek to Jersey.

I went to Jersey for a playoff game vs MIA and I said never again. Way too long. Now? 30 min train ride from western Long Island to Atlantic terminal. It’s my daily commute for work.
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Post#47 » by dakomish23 » Mon Dec 17, 2018 11:43 pm

I think I may have higher hopes for Musa than actual BKN fans
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Post#48 » by Sixerscan » Mon Dec 17, 2018 11:56 pm

Echoing what others have said: they've done a good job making do with what the have, being patient and establishing a culture. Need to maintain that while getting some top end talent to go from plucky underdog to actual contender.
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Post#49 » by Paradise » Tue Dec 18, 2018 12:16 am

dakomish23 wrote:I think I may have higher hopes for Musa than actual BKN fans

We’re aware he’s got a lot of upside here but he’s now out indefinitely with a shoulder injury. We’ve got a little trouble finding minutes for everybody so we’re stashing him for development.

Alot of General fans forget we’re also missing Trevon Graham who was playing solid defense before tearing his hammy. He’s almost close to returning and he could still be another surprise signing based off the small preseason sample size. He’s going to add a physical element and he shoots it around 37–40% from three.

Theo Pinson and Alan Williams still hasn’t even seen time despite playing really well.
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Post#50 » by GYK » Tue Dec 18, 2018 12:17 am

I love the front office. I think they great coaching. they move the ball/take care of the ball. they rebound well. shoot well. they don't have consistent talent. I would have thought with having their picks again they would start to tank for talent. but if they are going to be this sort of team. resembling the Jazz they have to become an elite defense and they are far from it.
I believe in the front office enough that tanking for talent should still keep them their jobs.
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Post#51 » by dakomish23 » Tue Dec 18, 2018 12:18 am

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dakomish23 wrote:I think I may have higher hopes for Musa than actual BKN fans

We’re aware he’s got a lot of upside here but he’s now out indefinitely with a shoulder injury. We’ve got a little trouble finding minutes for everybody so we’re stashing him for development.

Alot of General fans forget we’re also missing Trevon Graham who was playing solid defense before tearing his hammy. He’s almost returning and he could still be another surprise signing based off the small preseason sample size. He’s going to add a physical element and he shoots it around 37–40% from three.

Theo Pinson and Alan Williams still hasn’t even seen time despite playing really well.


Graham was the one guy I wanted the Knicks to go after in FA. Felt like he was a nice bargain bin value signing
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Post#52 » by Soulyss » Tue Dec 18, 2018 12:28 am

Rebuilding.... its gonna take time... don't get impatient.
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Post#53 » by SpeedyG » Tue Dec 18, 2018 5:07 pm

azcatz11 wrote:They're fun to watch and a low key good LP team. I watch them for RHJ and Ian Eagle
Eagle is a legit GOAT. If you ever catch him and Richard Jefferson on the same broadcast, it's a great. Especially because RJ isn't afraid to dish out really great player insights.

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Post#54 » by SpeedyG » Tue Dec 18, 2018 5:14 pm

dakomish23 wrote:I think I may have higher hopes for Musa than actual BKN fans
Nets fans are very high on Musa. But we realize he just isn't ready quite yet. He's barely older than the guys were discussing for the 2019 draft . The guard rotation is fairly tough to crack also with Dinwiddie/Russell/Crabbe/Harris.

Napier played a significant role for Blazers last season and he's getting DNP to make room for Kurucs.

Graham (an Atkinson favorite) and Caris will eventually return. There's just no way Musa cracks the rotation unless guys are traded.

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Post#55 » by dakomish23 » Tue Dec 18, 2018 5:52 pm

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dakomish23 wrote:I think I may have higher hopes for Musa than actual BKN fans
Nets fans are very high on Musa. But we realize he just isn't ready quite yet. He's barely older than the guys were discussing for the 2019 draft . The guard rotation is fairly tough to crack also with Dinwiddie/Russell/Crabbe/Harris.

Napier played a significant role for Blazers last season and he's getting DNP to make room for Kurucs.

Graham (an Atkinson favorite) and Caris will eventually return. There's just no way Musa cracks the rotation unless guys are traded.

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I think he’s going to be better than all those guys listed. I think his ceiling is a high scoring wing. I’m irrationally too high on him :lol:

Is he still down in the GL? I need to go to Nassau Coliseum to watch this kid.
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Post#56 » by dakomish23 » Tue Dec 18, 2018 5:54 pm

azcatz11 wrote:They're fun to watch and a low key good LP team. I watch them for RHJ and Ian Eagle


Eagle might be the best in the business. I wish he’d do national games instead of some of the guys we get instead.
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Post#57 » by GatorbaitDD » Tue Dec 18, 2018 6:07 pm

I love what the Nets are doing and want the Magic to try and emulate it.
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Post#58 » by SpeedyG » Tue Dec 18, 2018 9:09 pm

dakomish23 wrote:
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dakomish23 wrote:I think I may have higher hopes for Musa than actual BKN fans
Nets fans are very high on Musa. But we realize he just isn't ready quite yet. He's barely older than the guys were discussing for the 2019 draft . The guard rotation is fairly tough to crack also with Dinwiddie/Russell/Crabbe/Harris.

Napier played a significant role for Blazers last season and he's getting DNP to make room for Kurucs.

Graham (an Atkinson favorite) and Caris will eventually return. There's just no way Musa cracks the rotation unless guys are traded.

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I think he’s going to be better than all those guys listed. I think his ceiling is a high scoring wing. I’m irrationally too high on him

Is he still down in the GL? I need to go to Nassau Coliseum to watch this kid.
He is still in the GL but recently had a shoulder injury that will likely sideline him for weeks

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Post#59 » by SlowPaced » Tue Dec 18, 2018 9:26 pm

Future is bright for them. Sean Marks has an eye for talent and makes smart moves. Kenny Atkinson is a good coach who gets his team to play hard and smart. They have a very nice young core, especially considering the difficult situation they were in draft wise.

I think Jarrett Allen-Caris LeVert-D'Angelo Russell with Spencer Dinwiddie as the sixth man is their main core going forward. One of Rondae Hollis-Jefferson, Rodions Kurucs or Dzanan Musa probably makes his way into the starting lineup going forward. The other starter probably needs to be a FA acquisition, they need a star to lead this core.
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Post#60 » by cuyankees » Wed Dec 19, 2018 3:16 am

A team better than the Lakers obviously. :)

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