NBA Bubble Winners and Losers

dhsilv2 · Post #41 » by **dhsilv2** » Sat Oct 3, 2020 8:44 pm

Brofessor24 wrote:
RaptorsLife wrote:Biggest loser gotta be the nba

The decline in the sport is more evident than ever when it comes to ratings

I personally don't let ratings determine how much I enjoy something.

I love the NBA now significantly more than the NBA of the 1990s/early 2000s.

I'd agree, but this wasn't real nba.It was just a money grab and a fake tourney to make money and nothing else. Nobody cares about fake nba summer league stuff.

Brofessor24 · Post #42 » by **Brofessor24** » Sat Oct 3, 2020 8:59 pm

dhsilv2 wrote:
Brofessor24 wrote:
RaptorsLife wrote:Biggest loser gotta be the nba

The decline in the sport is more evident than ever when it comes to ratings

I personally don't let ratings determine how much I enjoy something.

I love the NBA now significantly more than the NBA of the 1990s/early 2000s.

I'd agree, but this wasn't real nba.It was just a money grab and a fake tourney to make money and nothing else. Nobody cares about fake nba summer league stuff.

It was real NBA, not summer league at all lmao.

All pro sports leagues are trying to make money. Get with the program.

Brofessor24 · Post #43 » by **Brofessor24** » Sat Oct 3, 2020 9:29 pm

TommyPointGawd wrote:
Dupp wrote:Good thread and I mostly agree with your lists. However why is MPJ on both lists?

A little bit of joke. But he showed a glimpse of his potential as a player going forward. He also continues overate himself. I get the vibe that his teammates and Coaches don't like him.

I think that you are exaggerating.

dhsilv2 · Post #44 » by **dhsilv2** » Sat Oct 3, 2020 9:40 pm

Brofessor24 wrote:
dhsilv2 wrote:
Brofessor24 wrote:
I personally don't let ratings determine how much I enjoy something.

I love the NBA now significantly more than the NBA of the 1990s/early 2000s.

I'd agree, but this wasn't real nba.It was just a money grab and a fake tourney to make money and nothing else. Nobody cares about fake nba summer league stuff.

It was real NBA, not summer league at all lmao.

All pro sports leagues are trying to make money. Get with the program.

If that was real nba, the nba is done. That was a joke and we ALL know it!

DaGawd · Post #45 » by **DaGawd** » Sat Oct 3, 2020 9:40 pm

Losers: The delete 8
NBA really let 8 teams go possibly a year without playing any organized competition.. critical for mostly youngish teams developing talent

Brofessor24 · Post #46 » by **Brofessor24** » Sat Oct 3, 2020 9:49 pm

dhsilv2 wrote:
Brofessor24 wrote:
dhsilv2 wrote:
I'd agree, but this wasn't real nba.It was just a money grab and a fake tourney to make money and nothing else. Nobody cares about fake nba summer league stuff.

It was real NBA, not summer league at all lmao.

All pro sports leagues are trying to make money. Get with the program.

If that was real nba, the nba is done. That was a joke and we ALL know it!

IMO it isn't a joke at all. I am enjoying it a lot more than the NBA of the 1990s/early 2000s.

Meeksology · Post #47 » by **Meeksology** » Sat Oct 3, 2020 10:19 pm

Lu Dort should be on that winners liat

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Optms · Post #48 » by **Optms** » Sat Oct 3, 2020 10:24 pm

Warriorfan wrote:Lakers older injury prone players got a short season with long break to really make a run.

They got a little luck because I thought the Heat were on Mavericks type run.

Lakers were the team that took the biggest hit because of the break. lol

They were slaughtering the league before the shutdown and it took them a while to start slaughtering everyone else again.

Meeksology · Post #49 » by **Meeksology** » Sat Oct 3, 2020 10:26 pm

dhsilv2 wrote:
Brofessor24 wrote:
RaptorsLife wrote:Biggest loser gotta be the nba

The decline in the sport is more evident than ever when it comes to ratings

I personally don't let ratings determine how much I enjoy something.

I love the NBA now significantly more than the NBA of the 1990s/early 2000s.

I'd agree, but this wasn't real nba.It was just a money grab and a fake tourney to make money and nothing else. Nobody cares about fake nba summer league stuff.

For someone who doesn't care about it, u seem to have a very strong opinion on it.

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theFireBlanket · Post #50 » by **theFireBlanket** » Sat Oct 3, 2020 10:30 pm

dhsilv2 wrote:
Brofessor24 wrote:
dhsilv2 wrote:
I'd agree, but this wasn't real nba.It was just a money grab and a fake tourney to make money and nothing else. Nobody cares about fake nba summer league stuff.

It was real NBA, not summer league at all lmao.

All pro sports leagues are trying to make money. Get with the program.

If that was real nba, the nba is done. That was a joke and we ALL know it!

Yeah,... the reffing in the bubble has been crazy bad. When you get a game full of highlights, that Ronnie Nunn can question a plethora of calls. And he concludes his commentary by saying that the NBA's new head referees have a lot to learn when it comes to nuances of the game. Something is definitely off.

I saw it happen to my team vs. Miami & then I saw it happen to Denver vs. the Lakers. Call a consistent game, or you're going to lose a lot of fans. It really is getting WWE with flopping, favoritism, some players get away with hacking & others can't just play honest straight up defense. Last night Kendrick Nunn got to experience what Khris Middleton did playing Jimmy Butler straight up.

KIRAG · Post #51 » by **KIRAG** » Sun Oct 4, 2020 2:22 am

winner: Morris, Markief

loser: Morris, Marcus

LesGrossman · Post #52 » by **LesGrossman** » Sun Oct 4, 2020 3:24 am

Soulyss wrote:
TommyPointGawd wrote:
Soulyss wrote:Gary Trent Jr. Belongs on the winners list... he significantly changed his profile in the 2nd half of the season and was RED HOT during the bubble.

edit: Also why is Porter Jr. both a winner and a loser?

I missed Trent. He is one of the biggest winners imo. I almost want to edit him in. Porter is also a big winner. But to me continues to over rate himself and be a bit a diva.

Oh yes, he's clearly a diva, and frankly not all that bright. Of course being a DIVA in the NBA is more par for the course (Durant, Kyrie, Lebron, Shaq, Howard, etc..) than the exception (Dame, Butler, Duncan, etc..) for good players.

Dame is not a diva? Wow.

LesGrossman · Post #53 » by **LesGrossman** » Sun Oct 4, 2020 3:26 am

Optms wrote:
Warriorfan wrote:Lakers older injury prone players got a short season with long break to really make a run.

They got a little luck because I thought the Heat were on Mavericks type run.

Lakers were the team that took the biggest hit because of the break. lol

They were slaughtering the league before the shutdown and it took them a while to start slaughtering everyone else again.

They took the slaughtering a bit too literally vs. Denver (and got away with it). :lol:

LesGrossman · Post #54 » by **LesGrossman** » Sun Oct 4, 2020 3:28 am

I think biggest losers were the Clippers and Milwaukee, they did so much less than we expected. Winners - Nuggets, (Heat). And the league itself, as we saw one more playoff increment with favoritism and obvious, ugly shifting of games. The stuff was brutal, even officials agreed with the eye test. But at this point it has happened so often that we just deal with it (and note an asterisk if it was significant).

Post #55 » by **Doctor MJ** » Sun Oct 4, 2020 3:30 am

Off the top of my head:

Winners:

TJ Warren
Devin Booker
DeAndre Ayton
Monty Williams
Michael Porter Jr.
Damian Lillard
Luka Doncic
Tim Hardaway Jr.
Trey Burke
Rick Carlisle
Donovan Mitchell
Jamal Murray
Nikola Jokic
Mike Malone
Anthony Davis
LeBron James
Dwight Howard
Ramon Rondo
KCP
Frank Vogel
Kyle Lowry
Jaylen Brown
Jimmy Butler
Bam Adebayo
Goran Dragic
Tyler Herro
Jae Crowder
Andre Iguodala
Erik Spoelstra

Losers
Zion Williamson
Jrue Holiday
Brandon Ingram
Lonzo Ball
Alvin Gentry
Russell Westbrook
Paul George
Montez Harrell
Lou Williams
Doc Rivers
Victor Oladipo
Nate McMillan
Pascal Siakam
Giannis Antetokounmpo
Eric Bledsoe
Mike Budenholzer

As for biggest winner, probably AD.
Biggest loser, I’m thinking Harrell.

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Da ThRONe · Post #56 » by **Da ThRONe** » Sun Oct 4, 2020 3:44 am

Doctor MJ wrote:Off the top of my head:

Winners:

TJ Warren
Devin Booker
DeAndre Ayton
Monty Williams
Michael Porter Jr.
Damian Lillard
Luka Doncic
Tim Hardaway Jr.
Trey Burke
Rick Carlisle
Donovan Mitchell
Jamal Murray
Nikola Jokic
Mike Malone
Anthony Davis
LeBron James
Dwight Howard
Ramon Rondo
KCP
Frank Vogel
Kyle Lowry
Jaylen Brown
Jimmy Butler
Bam Adebayo
Goran Dragic
Tyler Herro
Jae Crowder
Andre Iguodala
Erik Spoelstra

Losers
Zion Williamson
Jrue Holiday
Brandon Ingram
Lonzo Ball
Alvin Gentry
Russell Westbrook
Paul George
Montez Harrell
Lou Williams
Doc Rivers
Victor Oladipo
Nate McMillan
Pascal Siakam
Giannis Antetokounmpo
Eric Bledsoe
Mike Budenholzer

As for biggest winner, probably AD.
Biggest loser, I’m thinking Harrell.

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This is a really good list.

Brofessor24 · Post #57 » by **Brofessor24** » Sun Oct 4, 2020 4:04 am

theFireBlanket wrote:
dhsilv2 wrote:
Brofessor24 wrote:
It was real NBA, not summer league at all lmao.

All pro sports leagues are trying to make money. Get with the program.

If that was real nba, the nba is done. That was a joke and we ALL know it!

Yeah,... the reffing in the bubble has been crazy bad. When you get a game full of highlights, that Ronnie Nunn can question a plethora of calls. And he concludes his commentary by saying that the NBA's new head referees have a lot to learn when it comes to nuances of the game. Something is definitely off.

I saw it happen to my team vs. Miami & then I saw it happen to Denver vs. the Lakers. Call a consistent game, or you're going to lose a lot of fans. It really is getting WWE with flopping, favoritism, some players get away with hacking & others can't just play honest straight up defense. Last night Kendrick Nunn got to experience what Khris Middleton did playing Jimmy Butler straight up.

I personally have no problem with the reffing. Basketball is naturally a hard sport to ref. I have no complaints.

narmerguy · Post #58 » by **narmerguy** » Sun Oct 4, 2020 4:07 am

Brofessor24 wrote:
theFireBlanket wrote:
dhsilv2 wrote:
If that was real nba, the nba is done. That was a joke and we ALL know it!

Yeah,... the reffing in the bubble has been crazy bad. When you get a game full of highlights, that Ronnie Nunn can question a plethora of calls. And he concludes his commentary by saying that the NBA's new head referees have a lot to learn when it comes to nuances of the game. Something is definitely off.

I saw it happen to my team vs. Miami & then I saw it happen to Denver vs. the Lakers. Call a consistent game, or you're going to lose a lot of fans. It really is getting WWE with flopping, favoritism, some players get away with hacking & others can't just play honest straight up defense. Last night Kendrick Nunn got to experience what Khris Middleton did playing Jimmy Butler straight up.

I personally have no problem with the reffing. Basketball is naturally a hard sport to ref. I have no complaints.

*Every* year is the supposed worse year reffing ever. It's just the nature of reffing, players miss shots and refs miss calls. It happens.

NZB2323 · Post #59 » by **NZB2323** » Sun Oct 4, 2020 4:14 am

I disagree with Dipo and Zion being losers.

Dipo returned to playing on January 29th 371 days after his knee surgery. Then in March the season is suspended for COVID and Sabonis decides to get treatment on his foot, and the Pacers don’t get Sabonis for the bubble.

Zion is 20 years old, had limited minutes, returned from an injury this season, and had emergency leave/quarantine during the bubble.

If people are selling Dipo and Zion stock, I’ll buy it.

Richard Miller · Post #60 » by **Richard Miller** » Sun Oct 4, 2020 11:35 am

TommyPointGawd wrote:
Dupp wrote:Good thread and I mostly agree with your lists. However why is MPJ on both lists?

A little bit of joke. But he showed a glimpse of his potential as a player going forward. He also continues overate himself. I get the vibe that his teammates and Coaches don't like him.

He does think very highly of himself, he's well liked however