Cade Cunningham breaks Kobe's record of most missed FG's in a game (14/45, 31 missed shots)

[cupcakesnake]

I wasn't going against anything you said, it was more of a FYI thing to pass along.

Fair enough!

I think against a weak defense like Washington's, Detroit should have been able to generate more team offense. Robinson is a good movement shooter, Duren is an elite role man. Ron Holland averages 8 FGA this year and only took 4 shots last night.

The Pistons let their offense devolve into playing iso off the dribble, and that's a big part of why they were in a rock fight, relying immensely on offensive rebounding, against the 28th ranked defense in the NBA.

Cade chose to call his own number a LOT, and it was pretty stinky to watch.

Honestly, I think Detroit is sufficiently limited in terms of on-ball creation with so many guys missing that it was the right choice. You can only get so many spot-up jumpers and roll actions.

Ron Holland averages 8 FGA and took 4, sure, but Daniss Jenkins averages 5 and took 17.

Meantime, Duren took 10 (he averages 10.8), Green 11 (averages 5.5), Robinson 11 (averages 8.5). Lots of guys were above their averages. Chaz Lanier took 7 shots and he's averaged 8.7 mpg so far this season.

Cade wasn't cannibalizing other guys that much, there's just a limit on how often you can create ideal shots when you're surrounded by your bench and guys who don't create for themselves.

These are still NBA players who can do things. I'm not asking them all to become all-stars. I'm also not looking for ideal shots, but I can't get on board with how little they managed to create anything besides Cade pull ups off the dribble. There's no way Cade taking 45 (of 114) shots is the correct shot distribution. We've all seen worse lineups than what the Pistons put out last night.

I would expect guys to shoot over their average FGA when other guys are out. I was surprised to see one player absorb basically the entire sum of the FGA of the missing players.

[UcanUwill]

Just came back from work. Just in case some of you were wondering, I did not make this thread with intention to bash Cade, he is great, most importnatly, turnovers with him are finally down, as I said, the load on this guy right now is insane. Also, just like in Kobes game, it had overtime. Also, I know we already have Cade thread on first page, but I thought this had to be shared, just as headline on a page at least, because again, not bashing Cade, but this was still fascinating and I could have missed the fact he missed most shots in history myself if not for one news article. Annd they win the game.

[tsherkin]

These are still NBA players who can do things. I'm not asking them all to become all-stars. I'm also not looking for ideal shots, but I can't get on board with how little they managed to create anything besides Cade pull ups off the dribble. There's no way Cade taking 45 (of 114) shots is the correct shot distribution. We've all seen worse lineups than what the Pistons put out last night.

I would expect guys to shoot over their average FGA when other guys are out. I was surprised to see one player absorb basically the entire sum of the FGA of the missing players.

I dunno. I don't really have faith in the array of bench players he had with him on a team which was already starved for creation outside of Cade to begin with.

If he KEEPS doing it, then MAYBE? But they're missing a half-dozen different players, including a pair of starters. So if there's a time for it, then it's now. He was getting looks that none of those other players were going to get, and a bunch of them got a lot more shots than usual even still.

[JujitsuFlip]

who else was going to take those shots?

I think against a weak defense like Washington's, Detroit should have been able to generate more team offense. Robinson is a good movement shooter, Duren is an elite role man. Ron Holland averages 8 FGA this year and only took 4 shots last night.

The Pistons let their offense devolve into playing iso off the dribble, and that's a big part of why they were in a rock fight, relying immensely on offensive rebounding, against the 28th ranked defense in the NBA.

Cade chose to call his own number a LOT, and it was pretty stinky to watch.

jb offense 101.

[reload141]

Yeah let’s pump the brakes on Cade, dude was historically bad.

[Ice Man]

Without knowing what had happened in the game, I clicked on a video that hyped Cade's brilliant "breakout" performance.

[balrog27]

I still remember when most of realgm thought scottie was much better than him haha.

[Van_Trump]

I remember during the Vince Carter era in Toronto, a few games he was surrounded by a cast of incredible brick layers.

Vince would receive double and triple teams, pass to a wide open teammate: BRICK.

Posters on the Toronto Realgm site would complain about Vince taking contested jump shots. The bottom line was it was more efficient for Vince to take a contested jump shop than pass it to a wide open bricklayer.

Detroit won. Move on.