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Post#401 » by Revived » Fri Mar 4, 2016 8:50 am

[tweet]https://twitter.com/EthanJSkolnick/status/705597710678814720[/tweet]

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6dCXqTqVT4[/youtube]

If you notice, he did much of his damage against the best defensive rookie in the NBA in Winslow as well.
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Post#402 » by cyclix » Fri Mar 4, 2016 3:10 pm

All rookie First and Second Team so far

First Team
Russell
Booker
Winslow
Porzingis
KAT

Second Team
Mudiay
Hezonja
Johnson
Turner
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Post#403 » by NewWolvesOrder » Fri Mar 4, 2016 8:04 pm

SF88 wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/EthanJSkolnick/status/705597710678814720[/tweet]

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6dCXqTqVT4[/youtube]

If you notice, he did much of his damage against the best defensive rookie in the NBA in Winslow as well.


Looks like his last bucket came with 4:28 left in the game. Was he shut down by the Heat after that or he wasn't on the floor for whatever reason?
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Post#404 » by LedeniZZZ » Sat Mar 5, 2016 1:17 am

TOWNS 11pts in 4 minutes 5-5 (1-1 3pt) so far
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Post#405 » by Domejandro » Sat Mar 5, 2016 1:18 am

Towns is on pace for 132 points, haha. Obviously it will not hold, but God, he is so talented.
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Post#406 » by Domejandro » Sat Mar 5, 2016 1:23 am

Towns just got triple teamed, haha. He got an assist, but he is getting doubled every time.

In the first seven minutes of the game he has FIFTEEN POINTS. 7-7 from the field!

Guys, I am losing my mind, at the moment. :lol:
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Post#407 » by Domejandro » Sat Mar 5, 2016 3:33 am

john2jer wrote:21/7 on 10-14 shooting, and only played 22 minutes. Good job, SMitch. Save those knees for when he's 55.


Apologies for the triple post, but this is absurd. Sam Mitchell should be fired on the spot.
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Post#408 » by Kabookalu » Sat Mar 5, 2016 3:40 am

If he wasn't on the Raptors Norman Powell would be a rotation player for someone. Hell I'm confident he'd be starting on the Thunder. He's not a bad shooter, and his defense is absolutely fantastic, Tony Allen like.
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Post#409 » by Goudelock » Sat Mar 5, 2016 3:48 am

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john2jer wrote:21/7 on 10-14 shooting, and only played 22 minutes. Good job, SMitch. Save those knees for when he's 55.


Apologies for the triple post, but this is absurd. Sam Mitchell should be fired on the spot.


I know how you feel :banghead:

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Post#410 » by Nuggets_Talk » Sat Mar 5, 2016 5:25 am

cyclix wrote:All rookie First and Second Team so far

First Team
Russell
Booker
Winslow
Porzingis
KAT

Second Team
Mudiay
Hezonja
Johnson
Turner
Okafor


uh sorry. jokic (who didnt even make your second team) is playing better than winslow this year.

edit: the more I look at the stats, I realize its not even close.

jokic has better ppg, rpg, apg, spg, bpg, and shoots better from the field, the line and on 3 pointers. also does all this in about 30% less minutes per game.

and then as if that wasnt enough...jokic PER of 22. winslow around 8.
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Post#411 » by Slava » Sat Mar 5, 2016 6:45 pm

Nuggets_Talk wrote:
cyclix wrote:All rookie First and Second Team so far

First Team
Russell
Booker
Winslow
Porzingis
KAT

Second Team
Mudiay
Hezonja
Johnson
Turner
Okafor


uh sorry. jokic (who didnt even make your second team) is playing better than winslow this year.

edit: the more I look at the stats, I realize its not even close.

jokic has better ppg, rpg, apg, spg, bpg, and shoots better from the field, the line and on 3 pointers. also does all this in about 30% less minutes per game.

and then as if that wasnt enough...jokic PER of 22. winslow around 8.


Not sure the point of comparing those two, Jokic is not a SF, Winslow is. The all rookie teams are usually picked pretty close by position. If not even Myles Turner has a better case than both to be in the first team.
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Post#412 » by QUIZ » Sat Mar 5, 2016 6:59 pm

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Nuggets_Talk wrote:
cyclix wrote:All rookie First and Second Team so far

First Team
Russell
Booker
Winslow
Porzingis
KAT

Second Team
Mudiay
Hezonja
Johnson
Turner
Okafor


uh sorry. jokic (who didnt even make your second team) is playing better than winslow this year.

edit: the more I look at the stats, I realize its not even close.

jokic has better ppg, rpg, apg, spg, bpg, and shoots better from the field, the line and on 3 pointers. also does all this in about 30% less minutes per game.

and then as if that wasnt enough...jokic PER of 22. winslow around 8.


Not sure the point of comparing those two, Jokic is not a SF, Winslow is. The all rookie teams are usually picked pretty close by position. If not even Myles Turner has a better case than both to be in the first team.

Pretty much this, plus Winslow's actually contributing 30mpg as part of a playoff rotation. He's helping us win games. He's never gonna win the stats battle, most of what he does doesn't show up in the box score.

But since we adjusted our offense and stopped trying to make him shoot corner three's he's averaged 7.7pts 7.1rebs in 31mpg while shooting 50FG% in his past 18 games.
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Post#413 » by DaFan334 » Sat Mar 5, 2016 8:54 pm

While I don't necessarily agree with this, positions actually have no baring on All-Rookie Teams. With that said, wonder what the All-Rookie teams will look like.

First Team:
KAT
Prozingis
Okafor
Russell
Jokic

Second Team:
Booker
Mudiay
Turner
Winslow
Johnson
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Post#414 » by LedeniZZZ » Sat Mar 5, 2016 11:01 pm

Slava wrote:
Nuggets_Talk wrote:
cyclix wrote:All rookie First and Second Team so far

First Team
Russell
Booker
Winslow
Porzingis
KAT

Second Team
Mudiay
Hezonja
Johnson
Turner
Okafor


uh sorry. jokic (who didnt even make your second team) is playing better than winslow this year.

edit: the more I look at the stats, I realize its not even close.

jokic has better ppg, rpg, apg, spg, bpg, and shoots better from the field, the line and on 3 pointers. also does all this in about 30% less minutes per game.

and then as if that wasnt enough...jokic PER of 22. winslow around 8.


Not sure the point of comparing those two, Jokic is not a SF, Winslow is. The all rookie teams are usually picked pretty close by position. If not even Myles Turner has a better case than both to be in the first team.



Jokic
9.7pts 6.2reb 2as 1stl 0.6bl 1.4to 2.6pf 52.2FG% 37.7% 3pt (20/53) 80.9 FT % in 20.2min
21.8 PER 4.7WS .186 WS/48 TS% 59.3% BPM +4.7 VORP 2.1

Turner
10.6 pts 5reb 0.5as 0.3st 1.5 bl 0.9to 2.6 pf 51.9fg % 28.6% 3pt (2/7) 68.5 FT% in 22.3min
16.6 PER 2.4WS .130 WS/48 TS% 54.8% BPM -2.1 VORP 0

Is it really a better case ? I mean right now ? Maybe it will be but right now Jokic showed more.

This rookie class is insane. So deep.
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Post#415 » by LedeniZZZ » Sun Mar 6, 2016 3:32 am

Karl Magic Towns
28pts (14-18), 6reb, 7as (career high), 2 stl, 3 bl, 4to, 4pf in 38min.

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Post#416 » by Zeitgeister » Sun Mar 6, 2016 3:43 am

Towns has really been filling up the assist column lately, the past 10 games he's averaging 3.3 APG. I'm not surprised by this, the kid has very impressive vision and he knows how to exploit double teams.
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Post#417 » by Nuggets_Talk » Sun Mar 6, 2016 4:45 am

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uh sorry. jokic (who didnt even make your second team) is playing better than winslow this year.

edit: the more I look at the stats, I realize its not even close.

jokic has better ppg, rpg, apg, spg, bpg, and shoots better from the field, the line and on 3 pointers. also does all this in about 30% less minutes per game.

and then as if that wasnt enough...jokic PER of 22. winslow around 8.


Not sure the point of comparing those two, Jokic is not a SF, Winslow is. The all rookie teams are usually picked pretty close by position. If not even Myles Turner has a better case than both to be in the first team.

Pretty much this, plus Winslow's actually contributing 30mpg as part of a playoff rotation. He's helping us win games. He's never gonna win the stats battle, most of what he does doesn't show up in the box score.

But since we adjusted our offense and stopped trying to make him shoot corner three's he's averaged 7.7pts 7.1rebs in 31mpg while shooting 50FG% in his past 18 games.


as already mentioned positions do not count when dealing with all rookie teams.

secondly, neither does team success. so getting to play for miami doesnt give winslow bonus points or anything.

jokic is far out playing winslow this year.
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Post#418 » by QUIZ » Sun Mar 6, 2016 4:46 am

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Not sure the point of comparing those two, Jokic is not a SF, Winslow is. The all rookie teams are usually picked pretty close by position. If not even Myles Turner has a better case than both to be in the first team.

Pretty much this, plus Winslow's actually contributing 30mpg as part of a playoff rotation. He's helping us win games. He's never gonna win the stats battle, most of what he does doesn't show up in the box score.

But since we adjusted our offense and stopped trying to make him shoot corner three's he's averaged 7.7pts 7.1rebs in 31mpg while shooting 50FG% in his past 18 games.


as already mentioned positions do not count when dealing with all rookie teams.

secondly, neither does team success. so getting to play for miami doesnt give winslow bonus points or anything.

jokic is far out playing winslow this year.

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Post#419 » by Slava » Sun Mar 6, 2016 4:49 am

Nuggets_Talk wrote:
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Not sure the point of comparing those two, Jokic is not a SF, Winslow is. The all rookie teams are usually picked pretty close by position. If not even Myles Turner has a better case than both to be in the first team.

Pretty much this, plus Winslow's actually contributing 30mpg as part of a playoff rotation. He's helping us win games. He's never gonna win the stats battle, most of what he does doesn't show up in the box score.

But since we adjusted our offense and stopped trying to make him shoot corner three's he's averaged 7.7pts 7.1rebs in 31mpg while shooting 50FG% in his past 18 games.


as already mentioned positions do not count when dealing with all rookie teams.

secondly, neither does team success. so getting to play for miami doesnt give winslow bonus points or anything.

jokic is far out playing winslow this year.


Mentioned by who? You? If Jokic makes the all rookie team, he will have to beat out Porzingis.
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Post#420 » by Nuggets_Talk » Sun Mar 6, 2016 4:54 am

QUIZ wrote:
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QUIZ wrote:Pretty much this, plus Winslow's actually contributing 30mpg as part of a playoff rotation. He's helping us win games. He's never gonna win the stats battle, most of what he does doesn't show up in the box score.

But since we adjusted our offense and stopped trying to make him shoot corner three's he's averaged 7.7pts 7.1rebs in 31mpg while shooting 50FG% in his past 18 games.


as already mentioned positions do not count when dealing with all rookie teams.

secondly, neither does team success. so getting to play for miami doesnt give winslow bonus points or anything.

jokic is far out playing winslow this year.

Ok man he can have the award.


which award? you mean all rookie first team over winslow?

then yes, he should. hes earned it. not sure why you are so upset about it.

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