ECQF | P2 (2) Toronto Raptors vs (7) Orlando Magic

[Jadoogar]

Augustin has been completely nullified by the Nurse's decision to throw Green at him. Hope he enjoyed his minute of fame.

The Magic shouldn't really be depending on Augustin to carry them to wins, he had a fluke good game. He's already done more than they could have reasonably expected.

[RookieStar]

Well the Magic and Raps both gave and recieve their shots fot thr opening salvo. Now that its is in Orlando for game 3, both teams settle down to both exploit their advantages and work on their weaknesses.

Hopefully for my Magic being young as they are, they take this as experience for moving on and responding. They havr to know that in later years these situations happen and they have to respond

[MagicFrenchie]

DJ Augustin really has more FTA in 2 games than Kawhi........ that's crazy

The disrespect continues. Kawhi gets hacked consistently and no calls.

Either way, this series is a wrap. Raps in 5. Have a great summer, Magic fans.

Arrogance from some Raptors fans is just hilarious man. Saw some others calling us plebs on their forum. I'm not going either start to talk about an entire thread to whine about the refs. Talking about 5vs8 basketball. You'd think they 've won like about 50 championships to have that amount of trash talking and disrespect. I know they have a large fanbase and proportionally a lot of 6th graders, but still.

Anyway , see you in Game 3.

[ATLTimekeeper]

DJ Augustin really has more FTA in 2 games than Kawhi........ that's crazy

Pascal Siakam is averaging 13 shots at the rim and has 3 total free throws. That is actually crazy. It's not like he's getting dump off dunks. He's driving to the rim on high volume and has one more free throw than Jeremy Lin.

Problem is neither Siakam or Kawhi flop to try and draw fouls... they're more focused on fighting through the slaps and grabs when getting to the rim. If the refs don't see some kind of adverse reaction impeding progress, they won't make a call.

After Augustin goes in for a layup, nine times out of ten he's lying on his back to draw a call... like FVV and Lowry.

Siakam and Kawhi both yell for calls, like they've done all year. They just haven't gotten them so far.

FTA advantage so far is Magic 22, Raptors 15.5. Magic are up about 3 FTAs from the regular season, the Raptors are down 6.5. A regular whistle and this is probably a 2-0 series right now.

Looking at the rest of the league, the Sixers have a huge FTA advantage over the lower seed +9.5. The Warriors have a huge advantage over the Clippers +6. The Bucks have a huge advantage over the Pistons +8.5. Even the 2 seed Nuggets have an advantage over the Spurs +2.5. All the high seeds are getting a favourable whistle. Every other series is close to even, except the Raptors are -6.5 to an underdog that drew the fewest fouls in the regular season this year.

I expect this to even out in Orlando. It's just too much of an anomaly. The Raptors have the points in the paint advantage (46-36), are driving the ball way more than Orlando (57-41) and are taking more shots at the rim (31.5-25).

[Anticon]

Pascal Siakam is averaging 13 shots at the rim and has 3 total free throws. That is actually crazy. It's not like he's getting dump off dunks. He's driving to the rim on high volume and has one more free throw than Jeremy Lin.

Problem is neither Siakam or Kawhi flop to try and draw fouls... they're more focused on fighting through the slaps and grabs when getting to the rim. If the refs don't see some kind of adverse reaction impeding progress, they won't make a call.

After Augustin goes in for a layup, nine times out of ten he's lying on his back to draw a call... like FVV and Lowry.

Siakam and Kawhi both yell for calls, like they've done all year. They just haven't gotten them so far.

FTA advantage so far is Magic 22, Raptors 15.5. Magic are up about 3 FTAs from the regular season, the Raptors are down 6.5. A regular whistle and this is probably a 2-0 series right now.

Looking at the rest of the league, the Sixers have a huge FTA advantage over the lower seed +9.5. The Warriors have a huge advantage over the Clippers +6. The Bucks have a huge advantage over the Pistons +8.5. Even the 2 seed Nuggets have an advantage over the Spurs +2.5. All the high seeds are getting a favourable whistle. Every other series is close to even, except the Raptors are -6.5 to an underdog that drew the fewest fouls in the regular season this year.

I expect this to even out in Orlando. It's just too much of an anomaly. The Raptors have the points in the paint advantage (46-36), are driving the ball way more than Orlando (57-41) and are taking more shots at the rim (31.5-25).

I’m not one for conspiracies but this is strange.

[Statlanta]

DJ Augustin really has more FTA in 2 games than Kawhi........ that's crazy

The disrespect continues. Kawhi gets hacked consistently and no calls.

Either way, this series is a wrap. Raps in 5. Have a great summer, Magic fans.

There really isn't disrespect. Besides Augustin on occasion there aren't really any floppers on the team. With Toronto being the more physical team(4 former All-D players) and Orlando being the soft regular season team that they are(26th in steals, 5th in Opponent FTA, overall lack of technical fouls and ejections on the roster) there is just a control of pace that they have on the game.

Toronto's, clearly the better team, they don't need equal FTs or calls to win the series. Magic players aren't really playing in a way that makes it seem they have the refs in the back pocket.

[macNcheese3]

DJ Augustin really has more FTA in 2 games than Kawhi........ that's crazy

The disrespect continues. Kawhi gets hacked consistently and no calls.

Either way, this series is a wrap. Raps in 5. Have a great summer, Magic fans.

There really isn't disrespect. Besides Augustin on occasion there aren't really any floppers on the team. With Toronto being the more physical team(4 former All-D players) and Orlando being the soft regular season team that they are(26th in steals, 5th in Opponent FTA, overall lack of technical fouls and ejections on the roster) there is just a control of pace that they have on the game.

Toronto's, clearly the better team, they don't need equal FTs or calls to win the series. Magic players aren't really playing in a way that makes it seem they have the refs in the back pocket.

Yup. I applaud the magic for winning one game. However, I’m quite confident it ends there. Regardless, Clifford has done an exceptional job.

[Scorpion King]

Patrick McCaw should be back for Game 3. Will be interesting to see if he can slow down TRoss.

[MiltPalacioFan]

Raps in 5! if youre relying for Ross and Augustin to win you games, then your team sucks. Both are Raptor scrubs

[NickAnderson]

Man, I never really paid any attention why so many other fan bases don’t like raps fans. Now I know, some much crap talking for no reason. It’s actually quite funny

[The Real Dalic]

Man, I never really paid any attention why so many other fan bases don’t like raps fans. Now I know, some much crap talking for no reason. It’s actually quite funny

Friendly trash talk is fine, but they are being straight up disrespectful. I have officially jumped off the Raptors to the Finals bandwagon. There's just too many bad people from their board to root for them. Hoping the Bucks/Celtics/Sixers spank that ass if we don't. Acting like they've been there and done that before when they've never even made it out of the East before.

[SpiderMunn]

Man, I never really paid any attention why so many other fan bases don’t like raps fans. Now I know, some much crap talking for no reason. It’s actually quite funny

I hate when people fuel this, every fan-base of everything ever has this. We are just larger than your fan-base here so it's more obvious, but along with that we also have way more people saying nothing than you do but that won't be noticed because the don't write a thing!

[whysoserious]

Man, I never really paid any attention why so many other fan bases don’t like raps fans. Now I know, some much crap talking for no reason. It’s actually quite funny

Talking crap or having immature posters is not something unique to the Raptors, it's a volume and numbers game. Largest base with many posting pure non-sense.

Still doens't mean some posts are wrong like the ones discussing the FT discrepancy and how every top seed has the advantage yet in this series the lower seeded team and one that doesn't draw a lot of FTA during the RS suddenly is getting a huge boost while the Raptors aren't even getting the calls they normally do. Magic won game 1 by 3 points, it's not unreasonable to think had the Raps got some more calls they deserved, this series could be 2-0.

[Cosmic_Backlash]

The Magic all year have fouled the least amount of any team. Looking at raw numbers like Magic FT vs Raptors FT isn't the right way to look at it. The Magic draw very few fouls and give up very few also. I don't expect the Magic to have more than the raptors every game, but it's not an anomaly what is happening.

[whysoserious]

The Magic all year have fouled the least amount of any team. Looking at raw numbers like Magic FT vs Raptors FT isn't the right way to look at it. The Magic draw very few fouls and give up very few also. I don't expect the Magic to have more than the raptors every game, but it's not an anomaly what is happening.

That doesn't explain why the Magic FTA have jumped and they are the only lower seeded team getting an advantage over the higher seeded team. I'm not even suggesting that it's a conspiracy, there's multiple variables at play. The point is the Raps are used to this, being one of the better teams at drawing fouls all season long and then the whistle goes away completely for the playoffs. This happens to most teams but it's crazy how far the swing is in Raptors series when compared to everything else.

[Coco Costanza]

Man, I never really paid any attention why so many other fan bases don’t like raps fans. Now I know, some much crap talking for no reason. It’s actually quite funny

Friendly trash talk is fine, but they are being straight up disrespectful. I have officially jumped off the Raptors to the Finals bandwagon. There's just too many bad people from their board to root for them. Hoping the Bucks/Celtics/Sixers spank that ass if we don't.

[Sisqo]

Man, I never really paid any attention why so many other fan bases don’t like raps fans. Now I know, some much crap talking for no reason. It’s actually quite funny

Friendly trash talk is fine, but they are being straight up disrespectful. I have officially jumped off the Raptors to the Finals bandwagon. There's just too many bad people from their board to root for them. Hoping the Bucks/Celtics/Sixers spank that ass if we don't. Acting like they've been there and done that before when they've never even made it out of the East before.

Sorry but i can almost promise you that you are wrong about that. "too many bad people" . The majority of us are actually good, but like most cases the **** are the loudest.

[ATLTimekeeper]

Problem is neither Siakam or Kawhi flop to try and draw fouls... they're more focused on fighting through the slaps and grabs when getting to the rim. If the refs don't see some kind of adverse reaction impeding progress, they won't make a call.

After Augustin goes in for a layup, nine times out of ten he's lying on his back to draw a call... like FVV and Lowry.

Siakam and Kawhi both yell for calls, like they've done all year. They just haven't gotten them so far.

FTA advantage so far is Magic 22, Raptors 15.5. Magic are up about 3 FTAs from the regular season, the Raptors are down 6.5. A regular whistle and this is probably a 2-0 series right now.

Looking at the rest of the league, the Sixers have a huge FTA advantage over the lower seed +9.5. The Warriors have a huge advantage over the Clippers +6. The Bucks have a huge advantage over the Pistons +8.5. Even the 2 seed Nuggets have an advantage over the Spurs +2.5. All the high seeds are getting a favourable whistle. Every other series is close to even, except the Raptors are -6.5 to an underdog that drew the fewest fouls in the regular season this year.

I expect this to even out in Orlando. It's just too much of an anomaly. The Raptors have the points in the paint advantage (46-36), are driving the ball way more than Orlando (57-41) and are taking more shots at the rim (31.5-25).

I’m not one for conspiracies but this is strange.

It's way too small a sample to be anything. Marc Davis games are always going to be a unusual. If it doesn't balance out by game 3, stats like these will make their rounds in the media, Nurse will do the typical "taking a fine by ****ing on the refs in the post game presser" which always seems to buy a team a playoff game. All I'm pointing out is that the favourite isn't getting its due from the first two games and the typical arguments about the star or the aggressor getting the favourable whistle hasn't come through as of yet.

[The Real Dalic]

Man, I never really paid any attention why so many other fan bases don’t like raps fans. Now I know, some much crap talking for no reason. It’s actually quite funny

Friendly trash talk is fine, but they are being straight up disrespectful. I have officially jumped off the Raptors to the Finals bandwagon. There's just too many bad people from their board to root for them. Hoping the Bucks/Celtics/Sixers spank that ass if we don't. Acting like they've been there and done that before when they've never even made it out of the East before.

Sorry but i can almost promise you that you are wrong about that. "too many bad people" . The majority of us are actually good, but like most cases the **** are the loudest.

I'm not saying you all are, but just look at the guy above your post, it's clear that you guys tend to have a troll problem. They are clearly not good people and are feeling themselves because they beat a 7 seed in one game. It's enough to root against you guys even though there are still obviously a lot of level headed Raptors fans like yourself.

[The Real Dalic]

Man, I never really paid any attention why so many other fan bases don’t like raps fans. Now I know, some much crap talking for no reason. It’s actually quite funny

Friendly trash talk is fine, but they are being straight up disrespectful. I have officially jumped off the Raptors to the Finals bandwagon. There's just too many bad people from their board to root for them. Hoping the Bucks/Celtics/Sixers spank that ass if we don't.

Thanks for proving my point!