James Harden Wants To Be Traded To Philadelphiia; Won’t Formally Demand Trade Due To Public Backlash

[Mamba81p]

Ummm...you are kidding - right?

What is your point here - that because the Sixers are trading Simmons and his contract for Harden and whatever financial commitment they will need to make to keep him, that the Nets are better off with Simmons (and whatever non-Maxey/Thybulle assets they get)?

Err...OK.

Mills and Aldridge? LOL, Marks should tell Morey to sign Harden in the summer if he likes/can.
KD liking the post is not giving Sixers any leverage. It's just a green light to go ahead and try to trade him. Without KD's consent, nothing was going to happen. Or maybe a trade is already done...
We don't know anything about Simmons at this point, so I am not sure if bringing him in February is the best idea, or bringing him at all.

Yeah 6ers can't even sign him out right. They are just as desperate

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It looks like everyone involved in this saga is desperate, including us

[DusterBuster]

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This is the softest **** I’ve ever heard After all the criticism that Simmons took for demanding a trade, 76ers fans are cheering Harden forcing his way out. The NBA is truly amazing

Gotta love it.

Sixer fans beating their chests when…

A) No deal is official yet.
B) They’re basically getting the same player they are trading away who can (and likely will) turn/quit on them at the drop of a hat.

It’s just… :chefskiss:

So funny. Even if the deal happens, Sixer fans will still be in for more seasons of lockerroom drama.

[durka]

There's a way of going about this without being a complete ass. If Harden quietly went to the Nets and said "Hey, I'm not resigning here and will probably be going to Philly in the offseason", that would be completely respectable. Having this be so public and dealt with through the media pretty much confirms everything people were saying about him during the HOU fiasco.

The Nets should just concede the L and take Simmons. He's definitely not the worst consolation prize you could get here, and at thispoint its a low risk-high reward type of move. He could flourish beside 2 stars who will stretch the floor and take the heat off him from the media/fans to a certain degree.

I also can't be the only one who has doubts about paying Harden the max well into his 30s. The players who are able to stay effective late into their careers are generally the ones who are taking care of their bodies. Harden is the guy who comes to training camp out of shape. His games not as reliant on athleticism as some, but I'd have my reservations making that kind of commitment.

[Bum Adebayo]

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This is the softest **** I’ve ever heard After all the criticism that Simmons took for demanding a trade, 76ers fans are cheering Harden forcing his way out. The NBA is truly amazing

If you expect unbiased analysis and opinions, you are not in the right place.

[DusterBuster]

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This is the softest **** I’ve ever heard After all the criticism that Simmons took for demanding a trade, 76ers fans are cheering Harden forcing his way out. The NBA is truly amazing

If you expect unbiased analysis and opinions, you are not in the right place.

Great for a laugh and freezing cold takes tho!

[Murray_17]

Sounds like Harden as well.

Both teams know they're gonna lose a player. Difference is the Sixers are using that cap space for FOUR YEARS, and other teams know it, so the Sixers will either waste the next 4 years of Joel's prime, or they'll bend to the demands of another team.

If the Sixers dump Harris they still can move close to the cap and they have the option to move Simmons this off season or on the next deadline thinking teams are gonna be just as desperate as now.

Simmons can be retain for 2 or 3 more years with his contract, Harden on the other hand can walk out of Brooklyn after they send Allen, Levert, had to move Dinwiddie and used 7 picks to get it done.

This is not even close in terms of leverage.

[Slacktard]

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If Harden is passing up going to Miami for the strip clubs something serious is going down.

[TheNetsFan]

I'm with Geltzeiler who said the Nets need 2 of Maxey, Curry, Thybulle plus at least 2 picks. Sixers can pick which player they want to keep.

I lay out the following options & let Morey decide what he wants to do:
Harden & Millsap for Simmons+Thybulle+ one 1st +
Option A) Maxey
Option B) Curry + one more 1st (get back Brown & Carter)
Option C) 2 more 1sts

The same fanbase that state the Nets should take anything they can get for Harden have had Ben sitting out all season. Harden is desperate for a ring. If the deadline passes, I doubt he'll still be half hearted, especially after KD returns.

As far as the threat of signing Harden outright goes, the Sixers would need to get to about $76mil in team salary (after cap holds for roster spots & picks) to even get in the Harden ballpark (Harden would still be leaving some money on the table). That means they have to pay whatever it takes to get no salary back for Tobias & Simmons (the thought that teams will give Philly pure cap space & picks for Simmons is ludicrous) & renounce Green. Harris, while overpaid, is currently a better player than Maxey, Curry or Thybulle. One would think the Sixers are better off with Harris as the third best player than Maxey (who you could argue would be hampered by the presence of Harden) or Curry. I'm not sure why fans are quicker to attach picks to be rid Harris & in turn Green than one or two of Maxey, Curry & Thybulle.

[DusterBuster]

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If Harden is passing up going to Miami for the strip clubs something serious is going down.

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[Pointgod]

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This is the softest **** I’ve ever heard After all the criticism that Simmons took for demanding a trade, 76ers fans are cheering Harden forcing his way out. The NBA is truly amazing

Gotta love it.

Sixer fans beating their chests when…

A) No deal is official yet.
B) They’re basically getting the same player they are trading away who can (and likely will) turn/quit on them at the drop of a hat.

It’s just… :chefskiss:

So funny. Even if the deal happens, Sixer fans will still be in for more seasons of lockerroom drama.

James Harden couldn’t get along with Dwight Howard, Chris Paul, Russell Westbrook. Dude has the easiest path ever in Brooklyn, all he has to do is show up and play hard. Now he’s bitching to get out of there. It’s safe to say James Harden has a losers mentality. A ton of talent but this guy is not a winner at all. Give it a year before the finger pointing and him and Embiid at each other’s throats.

[bebopdeluxe]

I'm with Geltzeiler who said the Nets need 2 of Maxey, Curry, Thybulle plus at least 2 picks. Sixers can pick which player they want to keep.

I lay out the following options & let Morey decide what he wants to do:
Harden & Millsap for Simmons+Thybulle+ one 1st +
Option A) Maxey
Option B) Curry + one more 1st (get back Brown & Carter)
Option C) 2 more 1sts

The same fanbase that state the Nets should take anything they can get for Harden have had Ben sitting out all season. Harden is desperate for a ring. If the deadline passes, I doubt he'll still be half hearted, especially after KD returns.

As far as the threat of signing Harden outright goes, the Sixers would need to get to about $76mil in team salary (after cap holds for roster spots & picks) to even get in the Harden ballpark (Harden would still be leaving some money on the table). That means they have to pay whatever it takes to get no salary back for Tobias & Simmons (the thought that teams will give Philly pure cap space & picks for Simmons is ludicrous) & renounce Green. Harris, while overpaid, is currently a better player than Maxey, Curry or Thybulle. One would think the Sixers are better off with Harris as the third best player than Maxey (who you could argue would be hampered by the presence of Harden) or Curry. I'm not sure why fans are quicker to attach picks to be rid Harris & in turn Green than one or two of Maxey, Curry & Thybulle.

If this is the position that Sean Marks takes - that he needs two of Maxey, Thybulle or Curry PLUS picks, I would expect a 2:59PM announcement that the Sixers have traded Tobias Harris to the Thunder.

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If Harden is passing up going to Miami for the strip clubs something serious is going down.

He will demand a trade to Miami during next season, don't worry.

[Mamba81p]

I'm with Geltzeiler who said the Nets need 2 of Maxey, Curry, Thybulle plus at least 2 picks. Sixers can pick which player they want to keep.

I lay out the following options & let Morey decide what he wants to do:
Harden & Millsap for Simmons+Thybulle+ one 1st +
Option A) Maxey
Option B) Curry + one more 1st (get back Brown & Carter)
Option C) 2 more 1sts

The same fanbase that state the Nets should take anything they can get for Harden have had Ben sitting out all season. Harden is desperate for a ring. If the deadline passes, I doubt he'll still be half hearted, especially after KD returns.

As far as the threat of signing Harden outright goes, the Sixers would need to get to about $76mil in team salary (after cap holds for roster spots & picks) to even get in the Harden ballpark (Harden would still be leaving some money on the table). That means they have to pay whatever it takes to get no salary back for Tobias & Simmons (the thought that teams will give Philly pure cap space & picks for Simmons is ludicrous) & renounce Green. Harris, while overpaid, is currently a better player than Maxey, Curry or Thybulle. One would think the Sixers are better off with Harris as the third best player than Maxey (who you could argue would be hampered by the presence of Harden) or Curry. I'm not sure why fans are quicker to attach picks to be rid Harris & in turn Green than one or two of Maxey, Curry & Thybulle.

If this is the position that Sean Marks takes - that he needs two of Maxey, Thybulle or Curry PLUS picks, I would expect a 2:59PM announcement that the Sixers have traded Tobias Harris to the Thunder.

I would be shocked if Thunder takes him without some serious costs. I doubt they will take him at all, but everything has a price. Better to try with another team

[DusterBuster]

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If Harden is passing up going to Miami for the strip clubs something serious is going down.

He will demand a trade to Miami during next season, don't worry.

Genuinely shocked he hasn’t already. Maybe Heat know they shouldn’t do it since they’d never get him to leave the clubs for game time.

[Pointgod]

I'm with Geltzeiler who said the Nets need 2 of Maxey, Curry, Thybulle plus at least 2 picks. Sixers can pick which player they want to keep.

I lay out the following options & let Morey decide what he wants to do:
Harden & Millsap for Simmons+Thybulle+ one 1st +
Option A) Maxey
Option B) Curry + one more 1st (get back Brown & Carter)
Option C) 2 more 1sts

The same fanbase that state the Nets should take anything they can get for Harden have had Ben sitting out all season. Harden is desperate for a ring. If the deadline passes, I doubt he'll still be half hearted, especially after KD returns.

As far as the threat of signing Harden outright goes, the Sixers would need to get to about $76mil in team salary (after cap holds for roster spots & picks) to even get in the Harden ballpark (Harden would still be leaving some money on the table). That means they have to pay whatever it takes to get no salary back for Tobias & Simmons (the thought that teams will give Philly pure cap space & picks for Simmons is ludicrous) & renounce Green. Harris, while overpaid, is currently a better player than Maxey, Curry or Thybulle. One would think the Sixers are better off with Harris as the third best player than Maxey (who you could argue would be hampered by the presence of Harden) or Curry. I'm not sure why fans are quicker to attach picks to be rid Harris & in turn Green than one or two of Maxey, Curry & Thybulle.

If this is the position that Sean Marks takes - that he needs two of Maxey, Thybulle or Curry PLUS picks, I would expect a 2:59PM announcement that the Sixers have traded Tobias Harris to the Thunder.

If this trade was going through, it would have happened already. Way too much chatter and media talking heads getting attention. Sixers will have to wait until the summer to make this trade work.

[zshawn10]

I’m curious why anyone thinks Harden won’t pull the same ish in Philly. Would anyone be shocked if by next season Harden isn’t half assing it at the deadline and there is reports he and Embiid don’t like each other and Harden wants out again?

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[gmoney411]

There's a way of going about this without being a complete ass. If Harden quietly went to the Nets and said "Hey, I'm not resigning here and will probably be going to Philly in the offseason", that would be completely respectable. Having this be so public and dealt with through the media pretty much confirms everything people were saying about him during the HOU fiasco.

The Nets should just concede the L and take Simmons. He's definitely not the worst consolation prize you could get here, and at thispoint its a low risk-high reward type of move. He could flourish beside 2 stars who will stretch the floor and take the heat off him from the media/fans to a certain degree.

I also can't be the only one who has doubts about paying Harden the max well into his 30s. The players who are able to stay effective late into their careers are generally the ones who are taking care of their bodies. Harden is the guy who comes to training camp out of shape. His games not as reliant on athleticism as some, but I'd have my reservations making that kind of commitment.

How is Harden responsible for this being so pubic? It might be true I'm not sure what it's based on.

[DusterBuster]

This is the softest **** I’ve ever heard After all the criticism that Simmons took for demanding a trade, 76ers fans are cheering Harden forcing his way out. The NBA is truly amazing

Gotta love it.

Sixer fans beating their chests when…

A) No deal is official yet.
B) They’re basically getting the same player they are trading away who can (and likely will) turn/quit on them at the drop of a hat.

It’s just… :chefskiss:

So funny. Even if the deal happens, Sixer fans will still be in for more seasons of lockerroom drama.

James Harden couldn’t get along with Dwight Howard, Chris Paul, Russell Westbrook. Dude has the easiest path ever in Brooklyn, all he has to do is show up and play hard. Now he’s bitching to get out of there. It’s safe to say James Harden has a losers mentality. A ton of talent but this guy is not a winner at all. Give it a year before the finger pointing and him and Embiid at each other’s throats.

I’d be adding KD and Kyrie to that list. That’s said, every one of these players have been hard-to-work-with teammates.

Still though, totally 100% right. He was on a short deal too, he could just give it one real go here in Brooklyn then pick his own team this summer and avoided all this nonsense. If he’s worried about perception, that was the route to go, not this way.

I agree, middle of next season when the stories start leaking that Embiid and him don’t get along.

[whatisacenter]

It’s going to be funny when this trade doesn’t happen by the deadline.

[Statlanta]

If Harden truly wants Philly then Morey will wait for him. Nothing is going to happen on his front unless Marks thinks the season is compromised.