Marc Gasol Wins Defensive Player of the Year

[Paradise]

Well, the Grizzlies have the best defense in the league and without Gasol, their defense is terrible inside and that is with Allen on the floor.

Well deserved. Gasol is their MVP.

[OneWhoKnocks]

Not sure how I feel about this... Gasol was no slouch on defense, don't get me wrong but DPOY? Ehh...

[Nuntius]

Well, the Grizzlies have the best defense in the league.

The Grizzlies do NOT have the best defense in the league. They have the #2 defense in the league. They are, of course, a great defensive team.

[I_Love_NYK]

Ron Artest was the last perimeter player to win the award. It's sad that Tim Duncan will retire never winning the award. Well deserved to Marc Gasol, and who said Europeans can't play defense?

[TheChosen618]

Can't believe Tim Duncan has never won one of these.

Bruce Bowen was why although I cant think of any year he should have won it except maybe 2007.

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[Dupp]

Not sure how I feel about this... Gasol was no slouch on defense, don't get me wrong but DPOY? Ehh...

How i feel too. Actually really surprised with this pick.

[Sting3r]

Tim duncan doesn't deserve it this year cause he was practically non existent first half of the season.

[Dupp]

Tim duncan doesn't deserve it this year cause he was practically non existent first half of the season.

What are you talking about?

[Doormatt]

Top 10 defensive players by defensive contribution (Defensive RAPM weighted by minutes).

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Rk  Player             Team    MP       D-RAPM     MP x D-RAPM

1   Paul George        IND     2972     3.8        11421
2   Marc Gasol         MEM     2896     3.9        11000
3   Andre Iguodala     DEN     2799     3.5        9918
4   Tony Allen         MEM     2109     4.7        9875
5   Thabo Sefolosha    OKC     2229     4.4        9744     
6   Kevin Garnett      BOS     2022     4.7        9458
7   Dwight Howard      LAL     2722     3.3        9086
8   Luol Deng          CHI     2903     2.7        7883
9   Tim Duncan         SAS     2078     3.6        7470
10  Taj Gibson         CHI     1459     5.0        7301

Yup looks about right, is this from the IPV defensive numbers (which i think is prior informed right?)or the RAPM? Duncan certainly deseves a DPOY for his career and it's a damn shame he's never won, but he just doesn't have the minutes played this year. Gasol certainly deseves it he's been great this year.

[dballislife]

marc is a great defender but where did this DPOY come from, like seriously hes the best defender in all of nba this year? grizz has zbo whos prob top 5 rebounder in league, gay n prince are good defenders at the 3, allen probably best perimeter defender in league along with iggy, and conley is top 5 defensive pg easily...i guess he got it cus of the overall team, but dont kid urselves there are many better defenders in basketball

[SideshowBob]

Top 10 defensive players by defensive contribution (Defensive RAPM weighted by minutes).

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Rk  Player             Team    MP       D-RAPM     MP x D-RAPM

1   Paul George        IND     2972     3.8        11421
2   Marc Gasol         MEM     2896     3.9        11000
3   Andre Iguodala     DEN     2799     3.5        9918
4   Tony Allen         MEM     2109     4.7        9875
5   Thabo Sefolosha    OKC     2229     4.4        9744     
6   Kevin Garnett      BOS     2022     4.7        9458
7   Dwight Howard      LAL     2722     3.3        9086
8   Luol Deng          CHI     2903     2.7        7883
9   Tim Duncan         SAS     2078     3.6        7470
10  Taj Gibson         CHI     1459     5.0        7301

Yup looks about right, is this from the IPV defensive numbers (which i think is prior informed right?)or the RAPM? Duncan certainly deseves a DPOY for his career and it's a damn shame he's never won, but he just doesn't have the minutes played this year. Gasol certainly deseves it he's been great this year.

That was by RAPM.

This is by IPV

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Rk  Player             Team    MP       D-IPV      MP x D-IPV

1   Paul George        IND     2972     4.1        10402
2   Dwight Howard      LAL     2722     3.7        8983
3   Omer Asik          HOU     2799     2.2        8624
4   Marc Gasol         MEM     2896     3.6        8108
5   Kevin Garnett      BOS     2022     4.8        8088
6   Tony Allen         MEM     2109     2.8        8014
7   Tim Duncan         SAS     2078     4.8        7481
8   Andre Iguodala     DEN     2799     2.9        7223
9   Josh Smith         ATL     2683     2.7        6976
10  Luol Deng          CHI     2903     2.5        6967

[SideshowBob]

Garnett and Duncan are insane. They're both top 10 despite playing only 75% of the minutes of the other 8. Garnett manages to even stay above the mean contribution in both cases.

[Doormatt]

Garnett and Duncan are insane. They're both top 10 despite playing only 75% of the minutes of the other 8. Garnett manages to even stay above the mean contribution in both cases.

Yup. Impressive that Paul George is first in both. Will be interesting to see if he can keep up his defensive intensity and ability as he grows as a player overall and offensively.

[LALegend]

Duncan should have won imo. Gasol only wins because of minutes (and because the media voters have always skimped out on Duncan's DPOY), but Duncan's the better defensive player especially when it comes to defending the interior. Last night showed a glimpse of that too, taken from Spurstalk:

DPOY Gasol: 2rebs/0stls/0blks in 41 minutes. His team allowed 112 points(55% FG).
Lost the rebounding battle: 23-47

37 yr old Duncan: 10 rebs/3stls/0blks in 36 minutes. His team allowed 79 points(41% FG)
Lost the rebounding battle: 43-44

Honestly, your stat on Duncan isn't exactly impressive. The Lakers scoring so few points can be attributed to not having Kobe and the resulting lack of perimeter scoring. Dwight and Pau both had good games last night as well and dominated the boards.

[tms386]

Duncan should have won imo. Gasol only wins because of minutes (and because the media voters have always skimped out on Duncan's DPOY), but Duncan's the better defensive player especially when it comes to defending the interior. Last night showed a glimpse of that too, taken from Spurstalk:

DPOY Gasol: 2rebs/0stls/0blks in 41 minutes. His team allowed 112 points(55% FG).
Lost the rebounding battle: 23-47

37 yr old Duncan: 10 rebs/3stls/0blks in 36 minutes. His team allowed 79 points(41% FG)
Lost the rebounding battle: 43-44

Honestly, your stat on Duncan isn't exactly impressive. The Lakers scoring so few points can be attributed to not having Kobe and the resulting lack of perimeter scoring. Dwight and Pau both had good games last night as well and dominated the boards.

Not only that, but Memphis was on the road against a very potent Clipper team , where as the Spurs were at home.

Not only that, but a large majority of the Clippers points came from the perimeter.

[E-Balla]

Duncan loses again. I feel bad for him.

[Doctor MJ]

The Big Spainard!!

RT @ChrisVernonShow: I was just told that Marc Gasol will be named NBA Defensive Player of Year.

Also reported by CBSSports Twitter handle.

I gotta say: I'm shocked to see a white player without outstanding athletism win this award. Not that I wasn't expecting it given the press this year, I just never would have expected this to happen before this year.

Pretty amazing.

[Doctor MJ]

Duncan should have won imo. Gasol only wins because of minutes (and because the media voters have always skimped out on Duncan's DPOY), but Duncan's the better defensive player especially when it comes to defending the interior. Last night showed a glimpse of that too, taken from Spurstalk:

To my mind, Duncan & Garnett have been the best per minute defenders in the league for a very long time and continue to be so...but minutes gotta count.

[hype_2004]

Hibbert deserved it more than Duncan period

Duncan has deserved this award for over 10 years running, so what you saying again?

[Ayt]

Well deserved.