Pennebaker wrote:Won't matter if they have to face LeBron and AD in the Finals. They still won't be good enough.
Really think LeBron is just gonna play at a top 3 level into perpetuity? Hold onto that rope I guess
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Pennebaker wrote:Won't matter if they have to face LeBron and AD in the Finals. They still won't be good enough.
levon wrote:How would they afford 2 max + Butler?

HeartBreakKid wrote:There's hardly any good free agents this summer.

levon wrote:How would they afford 2 max + Butler?
Rapcity_11 wrote:HeartBreakKid wrote:There's hardly any good free agents this summer.
This thread is about 2021.
drosereturn wrote:Riley is the type to s&t herro and bam for Giannis tho bc Masai can easily acquire Giannis.
It guarantees a top 3 player and gets rid of players who will get big payday so its not all bad.
Butler, Giannis, and someone like PG 13 will form a dynasty.


bstein14 wrote:Pat Riley has set the heat up to become the next elite team in the NBA. Already a finals caliber team this year, next summer they will have an almost empty roster and they'll be able to add to the Butler/Herro/Bam trio.
Herro will be on $4 million on his rookie deal.
Bam will be an RFA but his cap hold will be only $12 million, so they can sign two max deals and then resign him after.
Butler is making $36 million.
Insane to think they could add Giannis /Oladipo to that trio. Or Giannis and just about any other of a ton of good FAs.
Even if they just land one max guy and resign a few of their current role players I think they're just in an incredible position to really leapfrog the rest of the East including Brooklyn and Boston.
Paz wrote:levon wrote:How would they afford 2 max + Butler?
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iamoti wrote:Honestly i'm not sure adding a max player is the only way to go. We have 2 young guys in Bam and Herro with tons of potential and room to grow. Bam is just exploring his offensive potential and if he adds a solid jumpshot + decent 3pt shot he would be unstoppable. Herro has shown he can be a quality playmaker and can only get better. Adding a max guy would only slow their progress down. Spo has let them make all the mistakes possible and trusted them to learn and it shows in this playoffs.
What i would do is add someone like Lowry/Jrue Holiday as a starting PG. Move Dragic back to the bench and keep him fresh for the playoffs. We are talking about a 34yo Dragic after all who has a record of injuries.
Beside a PG i would try to replace Olynyk with someone like Ibaka. Maybe package him to the Raptors with Nunn for a sign and trade. I think he's an expiring contract next season.
Resign Dragic to a 1 year 20m+ for the next season and a team friendly deal in 2021
Resign Crowder with the MLE
Resign Meyers Leonard to vet min
Draft a wing player with the 1st round pick
Let DJJ go, He will probably get a good offer elsewhere.
A lineup like this:
Lowry/Dragic/vet min
Robinson/Herro/1st round pick
Butler/Iggy/1st round pick
Crowder/Ibaka/KZ Okpala
Bam/Ibaka/Leonard
I really feel we can win with such a lineup.

gom wrote:iamoti wrote:Honestly i'm not sure adding a max player is the only way to go. We have 2 young guys in Bam and Herro with tons of potential and room to grow. Bam is just exploring his offensive potential and if he adds a solid jumpshot + decent 3pt shot he would be unstoppable. Herro has shown he can be a quality playmaker and can only get better. Adding a max guy would only slow their progress down. Spo has let them make all the mistakes possible and trusted them to learn and it shows in this playoffs.
What i would do is add someone like Lowry/Jrue Holiday as a starting PG. Move Dragic back to the bench and keep him fresh for the playoffs. We are talking about a 34yo Dragic after all who has a record of injuries.
Beside a PG i would try to replace Olynyk with someone like Ibaka. Maybe package him to the Raptors with Nunn for a sign and trade. I think he's an expiring contract next season.
Resign Dragic to a 1 year 20m+ for the next season and a team friendly deal in 2021
Resign Crowder with the MLE
Resign Meyers Leonard to vet min
Draft a wing player with the 1st round pick
Let DJJ go, He will probably get a good offer elsewhere.
A lineup like this:
Lowry/Dragic/vet min
Robinson/Herro/1st round pick
Butler/Iggy/1st round pick
Crowder/Ibaka/KZ Okpala
Bam/Ibaka/Leonard
I really feel we can win with such a lineup.
I disagree. I feel Miami needs to add a max player. I'd like AD or Giannis or Kawhi. I don't think Lowry or Jrue are good enough.
A few other issues:
Robinson is not a shooting guard.
Meyers Leonard will not sign a vet min. He is worth more. He was our starting center for 50 games.
Likewise, Crowder is worth considerably more than an MLE. You might get him in a multiyear contract for 3/50, but then it complicates bringing a max in 7/2021
I agree that someone will offer Derrick Jones a good deal and Miami should not match. As important as he is (esp the D), we also have Okpala and Silva (who I don't see on your list, btw)).
my take:
Miami should continue to improve organically and sign a star in 2021 if they cannot get AD. If we whiff on AD this offseason, we should go all in on Giannis or Kawhi (it doesn't matter which one).

lakers2020 wrote:Pennebaker wrote:Won't matter if they have to face LeBron and AD in the Finals. They still won't be good enough.
or PG, they would be the favorites
Zenzibar wrote:Nevertheless, Payton is not a finished product yet and unless the team moves him in a couple of weeks, I anticipate him trending upward with this coaching staff.