The OFFICIAL Rookie impressions thread pt. II

Shem · Post #661 » by **Shem** » Thu Dec 27, 2012 5:14 am

Lillard with 17 points, 11 assists, and 8 rebounds tonight. Flirted with the triple-double!

Big Jaffa · Post #662 » by **Big Jaffa** » Thu Dec 27, 2012 5:19 am

Robinson is listed as 6'10" on the nba website, I think he was half an inch shorter than that in the combine but dam he looks much shorter than that. Babbit who's 6'8", maybe 9 on a good day looked at least an inch or two taller than him.

what's the deal.

DusterBuster · Post #663 » by **DusterBuster** » Thu Dec 27, 2012 5:59 am

Big Jaffa wrote:Robinson is listed as 6'10" on the nba website, I think he was half an inch shorter than that in the combine but dam he looks much shorter than that. Babbit who's 6'8", maybe 9 on a good day looked at least an inch or two taller than him.

what's the deal.

At the pre-draft combine, he measured 6-8 and a half in shoes. Luke Babbitt listed 6-8 and a 3rd in shoes.

Big Jaffa · Post #664 » by **Big Jaffa** » Thu Dec 27, 2012 6:21 am

Even then, he just looks so undersized. Way too early to tell but what's he got going for him? At the draft all I heard was how he is an athletic power forward but the NBA is littered with those, does he have a workable jumpshot or a good post game?

Haven't seen much of him outside the four Portland games

DusterBuster · Post #665 » by **DusterBuster** » Thu Dec 27, 2012 6:30 am

Big Jaffa wrote:Even then, he just looks so undersized. Way too early to tell but what's he got going for him? At the draft all I heard was how he is an athletic power forward but the NBA is littered with those, does he have a workable jumpshot or a good post game?

Haven't seen much of him outside the four Portland games

The Kings have done such a poor job of ever getting him minutes that it's impossible to tell what he is right now.

King d · Post #666 » by **King d** » Thu Dec 27, 2012 7:08 am

Big Jaffa wrote:Robinson is listed as 6'10" on the nba website, I think he was half an inch shorter than that in the combine but dam he looks much shorter than that. Babbit who's 6'8", maybe 9 on a good day looked at least an inch or two taller than him.

what's the deal.

Noticed that before, he doesn't look much taller than Chuck Hayes...

Shem · Post #667 » by **Shem** » Thu Dec 27, 2012 7:21 am

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8TveBjh2UY[/youtube]

TwentyOne920 · Post #668 » by **TwentyOne920** » Thu Dec 27, 2012 7:30 am

He's a good dunker but he's not a super jumping guy like Westbrook.

Cro_Ruption · Post #669 » by **Cro_Ruption** » Thu Dec 27, 2012 7:37 am

TwentyOne920 wrote:He's a good dunker but he's not a super jumping guy like Westbrook.

agreed, he's more like a jeff teague dunker

Optms · Post #670 » by **Optms** » Thu Dec 27, 2012 4:24 pm

That isn't a bad thing though. Dunking is overrated if you think it amounts to anything or that it makes one player have an advantage over another. Gerald Green can dunk too. Jaw dropping elevation. He's still a scrub.

The Bandit · Post #671 » by **The Bandit** » Thu Dec 27, 2012 4:36 pm

Not much chat about Meyers Leonard lately. I noticed he has slipped behind Babbit in the rotation. How's he progressing? Has he learned a shred of defense yet?

DowJones · Post #672 » by **DowJones** » Thu Dec 27, 2012 5:24 pm

crazybranman360 wrote:How has Dion Waiters been so far?

He has been good. His jumper is streaky but where he needs the most improvement is finishing at the rim. He makes a really good move and gets right to the basket, but he seems miss the finish too often.

He has been better than every rookie that was even considered a Top-10 pick except for Davis, Drummond, Gilchrist, and Lillard. The only guy I would take ahead of him that Cleveland had a chance to get was Drummond. Lillard would have been a terrible fit with Irving being here already. I really wanted Drummond though. Of course if we took Drummond, we probably don't take Zeller and I think Zeller has looked like a Top-10 pick so far this year. I have been VERY impressed by him. He has a bunch of Pau Gasol in his game.

T-Will20 · Post #673 » by **T-Will20** » Thu Dec 27, 2012 6:00 pm

Cro_Ruption wrote:
TwentyOne920 wrote:He's a good dunker but he's not a super jumping guy like Westbrook.

agreed, he's more like a jeff teague dunker

Teague is more explosive as well...

monopoman · Post #674 » by **monopoman** » Thu Dec 27, 2012 6:05 pm

The Bandit wrote:Not much chat about Meyers Leonard lately. I noticed he has slipped behind Babbit in the rotation. How's he progressing? Has he learned a shred of defense yet?

He has gotten slightly better as the year has gone along on the defensive end. He still has a lot of work to do though on that end before the Blazers make him the starter. I think Portland drafted him knowing he had some deficiencies that would take time to work through.

EvanZ · Post #675 » by **EvanZ** » Thu Dec 27, 2012 6:06 pm

DowJones wrote:
crazybranman360 wrote:How has Dion Waiters been so far?

He has been good. His jumper is streaky but where he needs the most improvement is finishing at the rim. He makes a really good move and gets right to the basket, but he seems miss the finish too often.

Good = 45% TS? :lol:

Except for Rivers, I'd take every player in the top 10 before Waiters.

Cro_Ruption · Post #676 » by **Cro_Ruption** » Thu Dec 27, 2012 7:01 pm

The Bandit wrote:Not much chat about Meyers Leonard lately. I noticed he has slipped behind Babbit in the rotation. How's he progressing? Has he learned a shred of defense yet?

hasn't really slipped behind babbit

the athleticism, agility, speed and just raw talent for a 7'1 20 year old is all there. Just needs help putting it together and if he does, he will be a starter in the league for a long time.

Shem · Post #677 » by **Shem** » Thu Dec 27, 2012 7:21 pm

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16kzyqEstnA[/youtube]

Shem · Post #678 » by **Shem** » Thu Dec 27, 2012 7:45 pm

Rookie Ladder update:

http://www.nba.com/rookie-ladder/

1. Damian Lillard
2. Anthony Davis
3. Alexey Shved
4. Bradley Beal
5. Michael Kidd-Gilchrist
6. Dion Waiters
7. Andre Drummond
8. Tyler Zeller
9. Kyle Singler
10. Terrence Ross

Post #679 » by **roc** » Thu Dec 27, 2012 8:18 pm

Beal/Waiters both = too high on that ladder IMO

EvanZ · Post #680 » by **EvanZ** » Thu Dec 27, 2012 8:51 pm

Shem wrote:Rookie Ladder update:

http://www.nba.com/rookie-ladder/

1. Damian Lillard
2. Anthony Davis
3. Alexey Shved
4. Bradley Beal
5. Michael Kidd-Gilchrist
6. Dion Waiters
7. Andre Drummond
8. Tyler Zeller
9. Kyle Singler
10. Terrence Ross

That 40 percent overall is actually pretty good for Waiters, but surprisingly he's 0-for-12 from beyond the arc since his return.

"Surprisingly" :lol: