Woj: Some Players getting cold feet about playing in Orlando

[Mind_Odyssey]

You sound like Antifa in your mom's basement.

You have quadruple the amount of posts I do on a basketball website. Let’s talk about who spends too much time on their moms internet

[basketballRob]

We don't fully know the long term effects of covid yet either ...some people have scarring in lungs post infection ...for an athlete if they get that their pro career is going to be over if that happens to them

as i said, 'reasonably well'. We understand virology well too. All things considered, for most young and healthy people, this is taking a fast tracked vaccine for a virus that, at an individual level, isnt very injurious and very to extremely far from lethal.

With no live virus in it... what is you imagination picturing that's in it that is so incredibly harmful? A 100 grams of Cyanide?

And far from lethal and isn't injurious is just willfully ignorant.

If you don't understand virology or exposure rates to minuscule harmful chemicals now, you're not likely to understand it when the vaccine is ready, so I see little changing with you're anti-vax stance. Which IS what this is.

We understand that it's very unlikely we'll have a vaccine in November. Also coronavirus will likely be here forever now.

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[jokeboy86]

Now with players referring to the social justice discussion as a reason to not play its going to be very interesting to hear the media's response specifically the league's main TV partner, ESPN. Every talking head at ESPN has been advocating hard for the season to continue and has never wanted the season cancelled, hell a lot of them would even downplay any stories mentioning it. It makes sense cause without sports what are they supposed to talk about and how do they get paid. Now they're in a weird position because they don't want to minimize some of the players stance on social issues since George Floyd and come off as insensitive by saying they should still play right now. It'll be curious how they approach this topic unless they're just waiting for Lebron to chime in.

[Roscoe Sheed]

The players views will be heard by a much wider audience if they play. I understand their feelings and agree that change is needed but sitting out won’t be as beneficial as playing- they can gesture and speak about their grievances- Silver would likely encourage them to do so

[MagicBagley18]

The only thing I need to understand and get more information on is the social justice dynamic. I don’t see how playing basketball or playing competitively at the highest level would diminish or take away from anything that’s going on right now.

Just consider that Sony delayed the release of their PlayStation and why.

They stated that they don't want to drown out any other voices.

OFFICIALLY they did.

Snidely, some insiders ( ok maybe a few store owners that I know of ) claimed they didn't want their PS5 be a reason to have another riot just to be looted from their stores.

When did this happen? As far I’ve seen and read it’s still on for holiday 2020. Same as it ever was....if I’m wrong show me where you see this.

They delayed the announcement of the ps5- not the release as far as I know. And they delayed that announcement by a week.

[G R E Y]

Per wiretap:
https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/258445/Danny-Green-On-Orlando-Plans-The-Biggest-Concern-For-Most-Teams-Is-Hotels

Some good points made by DG here. It's those 20% of details left to be worked out that seem to be a focus. Can't the NBA get its own employees or arrange for Disney's to be in the bubble to make food? To take in food delivery? To turn down the beds? All other services at hotels? I understand the league doesn't have all the answers right now, but these concerns are legitimate AND workable. It doesn't have to be the case that workers go freely back and forth and without even being tested. What a Trojan horse to a good plan. Hope they figure it out because it's a serious detriment to the stated 'health first' mandate.

[mtron929]

Per wiretap:
https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/258445/Danny-Green-On-Orlando-Plans-The-Biggest-Concern-For-Most-Teams-Is-Hotels

Some good points made by DG here. It's those 20% of details left to be worked out that seem to be a focus. Can't the NBA get its own employees or arrange for Disney's to be in the bubble to make food? To take in food delivery? To turn down the beds? All other services at hotels? I understand the league doesn't have all the answers right now, but these concerns are legitimate AND workable. It doesn't have to be the case that workers go freely back and forth and without even being tested. What a Trojan horse to a good plan. Hope they figure it out because it's a serious detriment to the stated 'health first' mandate.

I suspect that more effort put into preserving the bubble will be met with more criticism from the general public. You would think that the whole fate of the world will depend on whether coronavirus somehow gets into the bubble. However, if they don't put maximum effort and coronavirus does get in, the NBA will be in big trouble. This is a disaster ready to happen.

[Johnny Bball]

Per wiretap:
https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/258445/Danny-Green-On-Orlando-Plans-The-Biggest-Concern-For-Most-Teams-Is-Hotels

Some good points made by DG here. It's those 20% of details left to be worked out that seem to be a focus. Can't the NBA get its own employees or arrange for Disney's to be in the bubble to make food? To take in food delivery? To turn down the beds? All other services at hotels? I understand the league doesn't have all the answers right now, but these concerns are legitimate AND workable. It doesn't have to be the case that workers go freely back and forth and without even being tested. What a Trojan horse to a good plan. Hope they figure it out because it's a serious detriment to the stated 'health first' mandate.

In March when they talked a bout one day opening again one day I think everyone figured that support staff would be in the bubble and overpaid as well. I have no idea what they are thinking, or why this is a problem.

I'll volunteer to work it and cook!

[G R E Y]

Per wiretap:
https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/258445/Danny-Green-On-Orlando-Plans-The-Biggest-Concern-For-Most-Teams-Is-Hotels

Some good points made by DG here. It's those 20% of details left to be worked out that seem to be a focus. Can't the NBA get its own employees or arrange for Disney's to be in the bubble to make food? To take in food delivery? To turn down the beds? All other services at hotels? I understand the league doesn't have all the answers right now, but these concerns are legitimate AND workable. It doesn't have to be the case that workers go freely back and forth and without even being tested. What a Trojan horse to a good plan. Hope they figure it out because it's a serious detriment to the stated 'health first' mandate.

I suspect that more effort put into preserving the bubble will be met with more criticism from the general public. You would think that the whole fate of the world will depend on whether coronavirus somehow gets into the bubble. However, if they don't put maximum effort and coronavirus does get in, the NBA will be in big trouble. This is a disaster ready to happen.

Well each business makes provisions relative to its ability to do so, with the perception of not taking anything away from the general public close in mind. So yeah, the NBA should make provisions to ensure that support staff - hotel and facilities, etc., are in the bubble. It's those details that can blow the whole thing out of the water. In / out of bubble AND without testing shouldn't even be a consideration.

[G R E Y]

Per wiretap:
https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/258445/Danny-Green-On-Orlando-Plans-The-Biggest-Concern-For-Most-Teams-Is-Hotels

Some good points made by DG here. It's those 20% of details left to be worked out that seem to be a focus. Can't the NBA get its own employees or arrange for Disney's to be in the bubble to make food? To take in food delivery? To turn down the beds? All other services at hotels? I understand the league doesn't have all the answers right now, but these concerns are legitimate AND workable. It doesn't have to be the case that workers go freely back and forth and without even being tested. What a Trojan horse to a good plan. Hope they figure it out because it's a serious detriment to the stated 'health first' mandate.

In March when they talked a bout one day opening again one day I think everyone figured that support staff would be in the bubble and overpaid as well. I have no idea what they are thinking, or why this is a problem.

I'll volunteer to work it and cook!

Yeah I was shocked when I read the in /out of bubble AND without testing. Right this way, Trojan horse! Like you said, pay people more, have them commit to strict in-the-bubble measures, or just say **** it we're going to New Zealand or Australia.

[moderndarwin]

This going to end poorly no matter what.

It’s a lose lose situation for Silver.

If i was him i’d make it as public as possible that it’s the players that want to come back. Like make the players basically sign off on coming back and that they understand and accept the risks. Cuz no matter what the owners, league, and Silver going to get blamed when something inevitably goes bad. Be it major injury to a star, a few people getting COVId, relative of a NBA player passing due to COVID etc.

[RookieStar]

Just to.interject.. Im gonna say this..

To those of us fans who thought july 31 starting was waaaay to far away.. with these kinds of obstacles.. i think the date is just perfect. Lol

[Sark]

This going to end poorly no matter what.

It’s a lose lose situation for Silver.

If i was him i’d make it as public as possible that it’s the players that want to come back. Like make the players basically sign off on coming back and that they understand and accept the risks. Cuz no matter what the owners, league, and Silver going to get blamed when something inevitably goes bad. Be it major injury to a star, a few people getting COVId, relative of a NBA player passing due to COVID etc.

So you want him to publicly lie about it? He would get roasted and probably lose his job if he did something like that.

[Milbucks96]

The players views will be heard by a much wider audience if they play. I understand their feelings and agree that change is needed but sitting out won’t be as beneficial as playing- they can gesture and speak about their grievances- Silver would likely encourage them to do so

I keep seeing this and how is that exactly? What makes people so sure about that?


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[Roscoe Sheed]

The players views will be heard by a much wider audience if they play. I understand their feelings and agree that change is needed but sitting out won’t be as beneficial as playing- they can gesture and speak about their grievances- Silver would likely encourage them to do so

I keep seeing this and how is that exactly? What makes people so sure about that?


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Because they will be on tv with millions of people watching everyday. It is very hard to reach that many people otherwise

[Mister Ze]

Bunch of Einstein’s approving a hurricane hot-bed as the place to resume the season

Not sure why the NBA makes players go to Canada in the winter. We should just have summer league up there and nothing else.

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Looks like someone never studied science in school

[basketballRob]

Bunch of Einstein’s approving a hurricane hot-bed as the place to resume the season

Not sure why the NBA makes players go to Canada in the winter. We should just have summer league up there and nothing else.

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Looks like someone never studied science in school

Every Toronto fan that I've seen hates the NBA coming back in Orlando. I just give some stupid logic back.

Like everything shuts down because of a hurricane in Orlando. Maybe for a few hours if one passes through. The odds of that even happening are low.

So you guys like to talk stupid stuff about Orlando and i can't talk about Toronto?

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[Milbucks96]

The players views will be heard by a much wider audience if they play. I understand their feelings and agree that change is needed but sitting out won’t be as beneficial as playing- they can gesture and speak about their grievances- Silver would likely encourage them to do so

I keep seeing this and how is that exactly? What makes people so sure about that?


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Because they will be on tv with millions of people watching everyday. It is very hard to reach that many people otherwise

Wearing some shirts during warmup then giving an out of breath speech about needing change after just playing a game entertaining people who could care less about what’s going on isn’t going to do anything. Everybody in America knows what’s going on, people don’t care. The reason I’m so sure canceling would be more effective is from the response of everybody who’s pissed that they would even think about it. The only way to get people to really listen is to be inconvenient.
Now I support both outcomes, and at the end of the day it doesn’t even matter to me right now but I’m sick and tired of people pulling this out when it’s not true at all. People don’t need to be reached, it’s the age of social media. They need to be affected and need to feel what’s going on. Playing basketball ain’t gone do that.


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[zshawn10]

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[CS707]

The league should just make it optional and let the teams work it out with their players. If a player is willing to suffer the blow back from their organization and the fans, so be it.