Who's the most overrated player in the NBA?

[Ssj16]

Of all-time? Toss up between Kobe, I.Thomas, Iverson and Bob Cousy.

I enjoy that Kobe lives in this person's head, rent free.

RIP Mamba.

[dhsilv2]

Embiid hate incoming.

his mvp argues for it...

But the answer is Edwards it seems based on recent threads where we got liars claiming everyone thinks he'll be the best player in 3 years.

[dhsilv2]

Embiid hate incoming.

Hard to consider him OVERrated when every conversation about involves health, playoff dropping and never passing the 2nd round...

But with an MVP over a top 20 all time season from Jokic. It's nuanced.

[dhsilv2]

Only because he gets thrown into the goat debate around here; He’s Jokic

prove that's happened. People have thrown him in the goat PEAK discussion...two completely different talks.

[dhsilv2]

The correct answer is: Draymond Green.

Put him in almost any other scenario and he could be out of the league.

You can't be serious...

Draymond would've been way better in 2024 in the Olympics for team USA vs Hali & Tatum

True Point Forward with way better defense & High IQ
I'm not even a Green fan but he's a winning player

Why are you talking about Olypmics....the question is NBA player. Olympics is a different sport all together.

[LaLover11]

The correct answer is: Draymond Green.

Put him in almost any other scenario and he could be out of the league.

You can't be serious...

Draymond would've been way better in 2024 in the Olympics for team USA vs Hali & Tatum

True Point Forward with way better defense & High IQ
I'm not even a Green fan but he's a winning player

Why are you talking about Olypmics....the question is NBA player. Olympics is a different sport all together.

Replace Tatum with Draymond and they would still win the NBA Championship in 2024

Brown would simply score more and give Porz more shots.

Draymond/Jrue/White/Brown is a elite defensive team with a lot of team ball.

Jrue/White/Brown/Green/ Porz is a championship team
If you disagree with this point, I won't have anything else to say to you about this topic

This isn't about Tatum, it's just a point that Draymond isn't overrated and still can win you a championship at his old age with team ball, defense and high IQ

[dhsilv2]

You can't be serious...

Draymond would've been way better in 2024 in the Olympics for team USA vs Hali & Tatum

True Point Forward with way better defense & High IQ
I'm not even a Green fan but he's a winning player

Why are you talking about Olypmics....the question is NBA player. Olympics is a different sport all together.

Replace Tatum with Draymond and they would still win the NBA Championship in 2024

Brown would simply score more and give Porz more shots.

Draymond/Jrue/White/Brown is a elite defensive team with a lot of team ball.

Jrue/White/Brown/Green/ Porz is a championship team
If you disagree with this point, I won't have anything else to say to you about this topic

This isn't about Tatum, it's just a point that Draymond isn't overrated and still can win you a championship at his old age with team ball, defense and high IQ

OK you're a crazy person...

[LaLover11]

Why are you talking about Olypmics....the question is NBA player. Olympics is a different sport all together.

Replace Tatum with Draymond and they would still win the NBA Championship in 2024

Brown would simply score more and give Porz more shots.

Draymond/Jrue/White/Brown is a elite defensive team with a lot of team ball.

Jrue/White/Brown/Green/ Porz is a championship team
If you disagree with this point, I won't have anything else to say to you about this topic

This isn't about Tatum, it's just a point that Draymond isn't overrated and still can win you a championship at his old age with team ball, defense and high IQ

OK you're a crazy person...

You're right Tatum carried the Celtics like Dirk in 2011
Goodnight normal person

[dhsilv2]

Replace Tatum with Draymond and they would still win the NBA Championship in 2024

Brown would simply score more and give Porz more shots.

Draymond/Jrue/White/Brown is a elite defensive team with a lot of team ball.

Jrue/White/Brown/Green/ Porz is a championship team
If you disagree with this point, I won't have anything else to say to you about this topic

This isn't about Tatum, it's just a point that Draymond isn't overrated and still can win you a championship at his old age with team ball, defense and high IQ

OK you're a crazy person...

You're right Tatum carried the Celtics like Dirk in 2011
Goodnight normal person

Yeah there's not between those two...

[MavsDirk41]

Replace Tatum with Draymond and they would still win the NBA Championship in 2024

Brown would simply score more and give Porz more shots.

Draymond/Jrue/White/Brown is a elite defensive team with a lot of team ball.

Jrue/White/Brown/Green/ Porz is a championship team
If you disagree with this point, I won't have anything else to say to you about this topic

This isn't about Tatum, it's just a point that Draymond isn't overrated and still can win you a championship at his old age with team ball, defense and high IQ

OK you're a crazy person...

You're right Tatum carried the Celtics like Dirk in 2011
Goodnight normal person

I hope that is some serious sarcasm

[dc]

Not most overrated but Wembanyama has Williamson like hype and people already think he is a top20 player in the league (some even say top10?!).

He has to grow his offensive game before he gets there.

He's had far more than Zion hype, but he kind of deserves it. He legitimately had some games last year where he looked like an adult playing against kids in a driveway and he may as well have been 8 feet tall.

As he starts to have more and more of those games, that's going to start becoming the norm and he'll be the most dominant player in the league. That's probably going to happen sooner rather than later. For the life of me, I can't remember the last rookie (never mind 19/20 year old rookie) who was 1st team all defense.

IMO, it's not going to be long before most people talk about how unfair the guy (already talked plenty about how unfair the Spurs lotto luck has been) is and that he's basically ruined basketball.

[LaLover11]

Not most overrated but Wembanyama has Williamson like hype and people already think he is a top20 player in the league (some even say top10?!).

He has to grow his offensive game before he gets there.

He's had far more than Zion hype, but he kind of deserves it. He legitimately had some games last year where he looked like an adult playing against kids in a driveway and he may as well have been 8 feet tall.

As he starts to have more and more of those games, that's going to start becoming the norm and he'll be the most dominant player in the league. That's probably going to happen sooner rather than later. For the life of me, I can't remember the last rookie (never mind 19/20 year old rookie) who was 1st team all defense.

IMO, it's not going to be long before most people talk about how unfair the guy (already talked plenty about how unfair the Spurs lotto luck has been) is and that he's basically ruined basketball.

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Wemby is not at that level yet until he gets his adult body
Zion if healthy would be unstoppable

[dc]

Wemby is not at that level yet until he gets his adult body
Zion if healthy would be unstoppable

Zion so far hasn't been able to string together 2 healthy seasons in a row. He's a dominant offensive player when healthy, but given his weight problems, style of play and injury history at a young age, I'm not betting on the guy's health.

Wemby simply being an oversized guy (anything over 7'2" in my own definition) obviously presents longterm health concerns, but we haven't seen anything so far that suggests any problems. If he starts having Curry like ankle issues (just a hypothetical) as an oversized guy, that would be something scary, but we haven't seen anything like that yet.

Bottom line is that if I'm some western conference team, I'm a lot more concerned about the prospects of facing Wemby over the next 10 years than I am Zion.

[JN61]

Curry. He is literally not making it to playoffs without support of multiple all-stars

[LaLover11]

Wemby is not at that level yet until he gets his adult body
Zion if healthy would be unstoppable

Zion so far hasn't been able to string together 2 healthy seasons in a row. He's a dominant offensive player when healthy, but given his weight problems, style of play and injury history at a young age, I'm not betting on the guy's health.

Wemby simply being an oversized guy (anything over 7'2" in my own definition) obviously presents longterm health concerns, but we haven't seen anything so far that suggests any problems. If he starts having Curry like ankle issues (just a hypothetical) as an oversized guy, that would be something scary, but we haven't seen anything like that yet.

Bottom line is that if I'm some western conference team, I'm a lot more concerned about the prospects of facing Wemby over the next 10 years than I am Zion.

You said it..... There is definitely a possibility of future ankle problems

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[tsherkin]

Embiid hate incoming.

Hard to consider him OVERrated when every conversation about involves health, playoff dropping and never passing the 2nd round...

But with an MVP over a top 20 all time season from Jokic. It's nuanced.

Sure. Voter fatigue took out Jokic but Embiid had just won his 2nd scoring title and was up there in most of the statistical angles. I dont know that it's a hot case to call him overrated, since he surely had an MVP-caliber season. Id bitch that he won with 66 GP, sure, but still.

[UcanUwill]

That's my point

He played terrible for team USA when they got bounced and during the playoffs

You talking about the FIBA team? You putting that on Brunson?

Yes he played terrible

Yet you talk up Austin Reaves badly, and Austin Reaves was a freaking disaster in World cup, probably the biggest defensive liability in the entire tournament, brutal liability in every game. And I am not saying Reaves is bad, I am rather high on Reaves myself, but you talking out of both sides of your mouth. You are down on Brunson for being meh in WC, but you still so high on Austin Reaves... Brunson had statistically season very reminiscent of prime Steph Curry, dude is a superstar in the NBA...

[LaLover11]

You talking about the FIBA team? You putting that on Brunson?

Yes he played terrible

Yet you talk up Austin Reaves badly, and Austin Reaves was a freaking disaster in World cup, probably the biggest defensive liability in the entire tournament, brutal liability in every game. And I am not saying Reaves is bad, I am rather high on Reaves myself, but you talking out of both sides of your mouth. You are down on Brunson for being meh in WC, but you still so high on Austin Reaves... Brunson had statistically season very reminiscent of prime Steph Curry, dude is a superstar in the NBA...

Austin Reaves: In 2024-25, Reaves will earn a base salary of $12,976,362, while carrying a cap hit of $12,976,362


Brunson:

$24,960,001

[UcanUwill]

Yes he played terrible

Yet you talk up Austin Reaves badly, and Austin Reaves was a freaking disaster in World cup, probably the biggest defensive liability in the entire tournament, brutal liability in every game. And I am not saying Reaves is bad, I am rather high on Reaves myself, but you talking out of both sides of your mouth. You are down on Brunson for being meh in WC, but you still so high on Austin Reaves... Brunson had statistically season very reminiscent of prime Steph Curry, dude is a superstar in the NBA...

Austin Reaves: In 2024-25, Reaves will earn a base salary of $12,976,362, while carrying a cap hit of $12,976,362


Brunson:

$24,960,001

Both guys are underpaid, but Brunson still more underpaid. Kid should be making over 40 mil easily by now. I understand the skepticism of 6'0 Superstar, but Brunson doesn't even have to be best player and is not paid in a way it shackles a team, he is best Knicks player now simply because he is that good.

[LaLover11]

Yet you talk up Austin Reaves badly, and Austin Reaves was a freaking disaster in World cup, probably the biggest defensive liability in the entire tournament, brutal liability in every game. And I am not saying Reaves is bad, I am rather high on Reaves myself, but you talking out of both sides of your mouth. You are down on Brunson for being meh in WC, but you still so high on Austin Reaves... Brunson had statistically season very reminiscent of prime Steph Curry, dude is a superstar in the NBA...

Austin Reaves: In 2024-25, Reaves will earn a base salary of $12,976,362, while carrying a cap hit of $12,976,362


Brunson:

$24,960,001

Both guys are underpaid, but Brunson still more underpaid. Kid should be making over 40 mil easily by now. I understand the skepticism of 6'0 Superstar, but Brunson doesn't even have to be best player and is not paid in a way it shackles a team, he is best Knicks player now simply because he is that good.

Brunson a good player most people might think I'm a hater but just imagine this.

Reaves, Hart, OG, Randle, Robinson

You have a extra 12 million to get another helpful player give you depth.

I understand Brunson has more talent than Reaves.
But I feel and think Reaves would thrive in that type of team where he can run the offense and have non superstar players but great players to play team ball.

You will also have extra money to get a player to backup Randle or Robinson