madmaxmedia wrote: bwgood77 wrote:
Richfield wrote:Must see from Cuomo..
from 2 days ago, missed this..
Goes off a little bit, haven't seen him like that before..
I think he means 29,600
I was watching that live and saw that too, obviously we all know what he meant. But the more important number I was really curious about was the '1-2%' of the population
that he said we were all doing this for. I think perhaps he is trying not to panic the population, but I would have to think the percentage of our population that is vulnerable to serious or fatal COVID-19 symptoms is significantly higher than 1-2%.
I am thinking, how many people are 70+, are suffering from some for of asthma, are recovering cancer patients, are diabetic or significantly obese, or have other immune system complications. Even just the elderly portion is far higher than 1-2%.
You can argue for a different age cutoff as being vulnerable, maybe 75 or 80, or maybe younger than 70. If I was 60 or 65+ I would definitely consider myself vulnerable, unless I was some super-athlete marathon runner type.
It always depends on how you look at it. If you are going to use %s of the population it would impact in a serious way, you'd have to know what % would be infected. So it would be easier to start with a projection of 100% infection rate.
So then you could say, maybe 2.5% have serious issues, and anywhere from 1-2% of those die, depending on hospital capacity.
Right now it worldometer says 5% of confirmed patients are in serious or critical condition, but of course only people with severe symptoms are being tested, so that # would have to be high.
I think it's just hard to speak in general terms. We all know around the age of 70 and higher, death rates start to go way up, and to a lesser extent in the 60s, and even lesser in the 50s. But then you have others with underlying conditions and maybe others withut underlying conditions.
I do wonder if the virus just kind of randomly hits people in different ways. Like if someone has slightly elevated blood pressure due to stress and then they start to get more anxiety, then they catch the virus, and the stress and anxiety skyrockets and it just compounds even though they didn't really have what people would really call hypertension in the first place. Now I don't know if blood pressure can increase THAT much due to stress and anxiety, but I imagine there are many unique cases that are hard to explain because there were not any known underlying conditions.