Who's the G.O.A.T. ?

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Who's the G.O.A.T. ?

Michael Jordan
201
56%
LeBron James
110
31%
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
18
5%
Bill Russell
12
3%
Wilt Chamberlain
10
3%
Other
8
2%
 
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Post#81 » by Run DLC » Sun Oct 18, 2020 2:13 am

Drygon wrote:
dynamic duo wrote:Image

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*260 playoff games.

lebron has now been the clear-cut best player in the finals 8 times and is still the best in the world in his 17th/18th season, east... west... don't matter, lebron is a one man dynasty.


By this logic, Karl Malone > Lebron

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I’m very impressed that Karl finished with 5k assists. I doubt KD will even manage that.
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Post#82 » by LesGrossman » Sun Oct 18, 2020 3:32 am

Magic Is Magic wrote:
JN61 wrote:
dynamic duo wrote:Image

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*260 playoff games.

lebron has now been the clear-cut best player in the finals 8 times and is still the best in the world in his 17th/18th season, east... west... don't matter, lebron is a one man dynasty.

How many more years, yet still chasing the ghost.


Oh the chase is over now, I think you might have missed the thread where Real GM declared Lebron the GOAT. I don't think its anything to be ashamed about as a Jordan fan. He was goat for at least 18 years (1998 to 2016) or even 22 years (1998 to 2020). If Lebron can maintain his GOAT status for 22 years I will be impressed because this league is filled with talented players but I question their consistency. LeBron pretty much never took a break for his entire career. He made 9 Finals in the last 10 years. If that ever gets duplicated and that person ends up with more than 7500 playoff points then I can declare them the new GOAT. I don't see that happening but if it did I would have to be realistic.

This post has to take the price for the most nonsensical ramble on the G.O.A.T. topic. Do you even understand what G.O.A.T. means.
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Post#83 » by JB2 » Sun Oct 18, 2020 3:35 am

Kareem, MJ, LeBron are top 3. Put them in whatever order you want.
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Post#84 » by twyzted » Sun Oct 18, 2020 3:48 am

LesGrossman wrote:
Magic Is Magic wrote:
JN61 wrote:How many more years, yet still chasing the ghost.


Oh the chase is over now, I think you might have missed the thread where Real GM declared Lebron the GOAT. I don't think its anything to be ashamed about as a Jordan fan. He was goat for at least 18 years (1998 to 2016) or even 22 years (1998 to 2020). If Lebron can maintain his GOAT status for 22 years I will be impressed because this league is filled with talented players but I question their consistency. LeBron pretty much never took a break for his entire career. He made 9 Finals in the last 10 years. If that ever gets duplicated and that person ends up with more than 7500 playoff points then I can declare them the new GOAT. I don't see that happening but if it did I would have to be realistic.

This post has to take the price for the most nonsensical ramble on the G.O.A.T. topic. Do you even understand what G.O.A.T. means.


Hes talking about some thread made on the lebron circlejerk board. You had to apply and be approved by some other panel. To get to vote.
Well we cant reject what the realgm hivemind concluded :lol:
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Post#85 » by Metallikid » Sun Oct 18, 2020 4:09 am

MJ stans are legit cultish.
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Post#86 » by Pg81 » Sun Oct 18, 2020 4:54 am

twyzted wrote:
Kingsway_fan wrote:Chamberlain holds 72 NBA records, 68 by himself. Among his records are several that are considered unbreakable, such as averaging 22.9 rebounds for a career or 50.4 points per game in a season, scoring 100 points or 55 rebounds in a single game, scoring 65 or more points 15 times, 50 or more points 118 times.


What a absolut unit of a stat padder.

Obviously joking. I did not know that he held 68 records thats insane. :o shame we dont have a video of that 100 point game


Those are without blocks and steals being recorded at the time. If blocks had been recorded he probably would have added a a couple or even handful of records extra.
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Post#87 » by jaymo123 » Sun Oct 18, 2020 5:20 am

MJ is the GOAT to me because of two reasons, Jason Terry and J.J. Barea. If Lebron didn't p%ss the bed against the Mavs, I might consider him the GOAT but damn, I can't stop thinking about how JT & JJ punked Lebron in 2011. It still shocks till this day.
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Post#88 » by KGtabake » Sun Oct 18, 2020 6:50 am

Still Wilt.
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Post#89 » by Triple7 » Sun Oct 18, 2020 8:24 am

MJ no doubt!
Lebron probably 4th or 5th best all time.
He can’t take back all those 6 finals losses and that choke job against the Mavs was hilarious! 8pts in almost 46mins????? In a finals game? Against JJ Barea and Jason Terry? Wtf hahaha
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Post#90 » by Roddy » Sun Oct 18, 2020 9:05 am

1- MJ
2- Bill Russell
3- Larry Bird

Lebron might be 7th behind Kevin McHale, John Havlicek and Bob Cousy...
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Post#91 » by Gregoire » Sun Oct 18, 2020 10:52 am

I take Jordan for now. Lebron's 4 rings have some astericks each:
2012 - lockout season
2013 - Allen and Bosh saved him.
2016 - Irving, injuries, DQ saved him.
2020 - bubble season
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Yeah, when ever I make all time comparisons, I pretty much ignore the pre-3PT-line era. The game was so different then. It's apples and oranges. Those guys may be better or may be worse, we're never really going to know.
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Post#92 » by preldzic » Sun Oct 18, 2020 11:10 am

Gregoire wrote:I take Jordan for now. Lebron's 4 rings have some astericks each:
2012 - lockout season
2013 - Allen and Bosh saved him.
2016 - Irving, injuries, DQ saved him.
2020 - bubble season


Please tell me this is a prank... and Ashton Kutcher put you up to this.
What's up with this asterisks logic? If LeBron haters can place asterisks to all his rings, then LeBron homers are allowed to place asterisks to all the Finals he lost since 2011:
2011 - first time in the playoffs with a new team
2014 - incredible record setting Spurs offense
2015 - first time in the playoffs with a new team, Kyrie injury
2017 - GSW stacked, Big 4
2018 - GSW stacked, Big 4
I can't believe I just wrote that, it doesn't make any sense, just like you asterisks don't. You win 4 games in the Finals, you're the champion. You are the best player on a winning team, you're named FMVP. Period.
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Post#93 » by sunsbg » Sun Oct 18, 2020 11:17 am

preldzic wrote:
Gregoire wrote:I take Jordan for now. Lebron's 4 rings have some astericks each:
2012 - lockout season
2013 - Allen and Bosh saved him.
2016 - Irving, injuries, DQ saved him.
2020 - bubble season


Please tell me this is a prank... and Ashton Kutcher put you up to this.
What's up with this asterisks logic? If LeBron haters can place asterisks to all his rings, then LeBron homers are allowed to place asterisks to all the Finals he lost since 2011:
2011 - first time in the playoffs with a new team
2014 - incredible record setting Spurs offense
2015 - first time in the playoffs with a new team, Kyrie injury
2017 - GSW stacked, Big 4
2018 - GSW stacked, Big 4
I can't believe I just wrote that, it doesn't make any sense, just like you asterisks don't. You win 4 games in the Finals, you're the champion. You are the best player on a winning team, you're named FMVP. Period.


Context always matters, we are not robots to look at numbers only, so both his and your points make perfect sense.
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Post#94 » by preldzic » Sun Oct 18, 2020 11:30 am

sunsbg wrote:
preldzic wrote:
Gregoire wrote:I take Jordan for now. Lebron's 4 rings have some astericks each:
2012 - lockout season
2013 - Allen and Bosh saved him.
2016 - Irving, injuries, DQ saved him.
2020 - bubble season


Please tell me this is a prank... and Ashton Kutcher put you up to this.
What's up with this asterisks logic? If LeBron haters can place asterisks to all his rings, then LeBron homers are allowed to place asterisks to all the Finals he lost since 2011:
2011 - first time in the playoffs with a new team
2014 - incredible record setting Spurs offense
2015 - first time in the playoffs with a new team, Kyrie injury
2017 - GSW stacked, Big 4
2018 - GSW stacked, Big 4
I can't believe I just wrote that, it doesn't make any sense, just like you asterisks don't. You win 4 games in the Finals, you're the champion. You are the best player on a winning team, you're named FMVP. Period.


Context always matters, we are not robots to look at numbers only, so both his and your points make perfect sense.


I am a statistician by training and telling me that numbers don't matter is like telling a 5-year-old there's no Santa! :D
But I forgive you coz you might as well be the first person to ever tell me that my points make sense when even I don't think they do.
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Post#95 » by sunsbg » Sun Oct 18, 2020 11:38 am

preldzic wrote:
sunsbg wrote:
Context always matters, we are not robots to look at numbers only, so both his and your points make perfect sense.


I am a statistician by training and telling me that numbers don't matter is like telling a 5-year-old there's no Santa! :D
But I forgive you coz you might as well be the first person to ever tell me that my points make sense when even I don't think they do.


There is no Santa, whattt ?!? ;)

Well, I didn't say numbers don't matter at all, but when talking about basketball they are certainly not all that matters.
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Post#96 » by Magic Is Magic » Sun Oct 18, 2020 7:22 pm

LesGrossman wrote:
Magic Is Magic wrote:
JN61 wrote:How many more years, yet still chasing the ghost.


Oh the chase is over now, I think you might have missed the thread where Real GM declared Lebron the GOAT. I don't think its anything to be ashamed about as a Jordan fan. He was goat for at least 18 years (1998 to 2016) or even 22 years (1998 to 2020). If Lebron can maintain his GOAT status for 22 years I will be impressed because this league is filled with talented players but I question their consistency. LeBron pretty much never took a break for his entire career. He made 9 Finals in the last 10 years. If that ever gets duplicated and that person ends up with more than 7500 playoff points then I can declare them the new GOAT. I don't see that happening but if it did I would have to be realistic.

This post has to take the price for the most nonsensical ramble on the G.O.A.T. topic. Do you even understand what G.O.A.T. means.


All facts, so I suggest that you feel free to refute anything I mentioned or be smart about this and roll over and concede. That decision is yours to live with.
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Post#97 » by Kurt Heimlich » Sun Oct 18, 2020 9:01 pm

Roddy wrote:1- MJ
2- Bill Russell
3- Larry Bird

Lebron might be 7th behind Kevin McHale, John Havlicek and Bob Cousy...


Lol I'm glad you finished the joke because your top 3 could have been mistaken for serious.
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Post#98 » by Sark » Sun Oct 18, 2020 9:49 pm

Metallikid wrote:MJ stans are legit cultish.



Same could be said about Lebron stains.
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Post#99 » by CarMalone » Sun Oct 18, 2020 10:06 pm

Gregoire wrote:I take Jordan for now. Lebron's 4 rings have some astericks each:
2012 - lockout season
2013 - Allen and Bosh saved him.
2016 - Irving, injuries, DQ saved him.
2020 - bubble season

I have MJ>LBJ. There are a lot of reasons why MJ>LBJ, but those “asterisks” are not one of them.
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Post#100 » by Kurt Heimlich » Sun Oct 18, 2020 11:09 pm

Sark wrote:
Metallikid wrote:MJ stans are legit cultish.



Same could be said about Lebron stains.


Yup that's the sweet hilarity of it all. And another example of how hilariously dull this debate is when it comes down to it. "You're brainwashed, X is better than Y!" "No u"

EL BJ is as close as they've come to MJ's throne and I don't blame people for getting excited. Keep arguing one way or the other as it suits you. I'm just hear to laugh and make my own petty judgements. Way more fun than the actual debate itself.

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