Will we ever see an organic champion again?

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Will we ever see an organic champion again? 

Post#1 » by GrandTheftRondo » Wed Jan 13, 2021 10:43 pm

Seriously. The NBA is completely rooted in my opinion.

The players clearly have all the power. A top 5 player can now force his out of while contracted for a pile of steaming ****.

Nobody wants to preserve through anything it seems like and they’d rather force their way to go play with LeBron, KD etc.

Does anyone actually find this **** entertaining?
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Post#2 » by so_bored » Wed Jan 13, 2021 10:46 pm

Lebron started this BS. It's really all his fault. Can't wait for this fraud to retire.
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Post#3 » by MrPerfect1 » Wed Jan 13, 2021 10:47 pm

Wait until the next CBA. I expect the owners to take extraordinary steps to reverse what has been going on.
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Post#4 » by Questionquest » Wed Jan 13, 2021 10:48 pm

I believe Michael Porter Jr. Is 100% organic, i see a championship in his future
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Post#5 » by xxSnEaKyPxx » Wed Jan 13, 2021 10:49 pm

No.
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Post#6 » by Yeggo Poleggo » Wed Jan 13, 2021 10:49 pm

Kobe Bryant was the very last one.
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Post#7 » by Liam_Gallagher » Wed Jan 13, 2021 10:49 pm

Were the Lakers not organic last year? I thought they were a middle-of-the-pact team with aging role players/left-overs like Rondo, Howard, Green and Cousins.

Funny how the goal posts change so often.
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Post#8 » by CelticSooner » Wed Jan 13, 2021 10:50 pm

No, once players finish their second contract while entering their prime they all want to go somewhere else.
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Post#9 » by IgorK » Wed Jan 13, 2021 10:50 pm

so_bored wrote:Lebron started this BS. It's really all his fault. Can't wait for this fraud to retire.


Typical hater rhetoric. Superteams were built before LeBron's exit from Cleveland.
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Post#10 » by Statlanta » Wed Jan 13, 2021 10:50 pm

The foreigners will have to end this era of American AAU friendships. Giannis/Luka will be our saviors.

As long as people call KG, LBJ, Curry, Kawhi and KD top players in NBA history (and not put asterisks due to collusion) it will continue
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Post#11 » by Eddy_JukeZ » Wed Jan 13, 2021 10:51 pm

Liam_Gallagher wrote:Were the Lakers not organic last year? I thought they were a middle-of-the-pact team with aging role players/left-overs like Rondo, Howard, Green and Cousins.

Funny how the goal posts change so often.


A champion is a champion to me.

But going by the OP's definition, the Lakers were anything but organic.
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Post#12 » by TrustFundBaby » Wed Jan 13, 2021 10:51 pm

Liam_Gallagher wrote:Were the Lakers not organic last year? I thought they were a middle-of-the-pact team with aging role players/left-overs like Rondo, Howard, Green and Cousins.

Funny how the goal posts change so often.


That has nothing to do with them being inorganic

LeBron signed there and then AD forced his way there

OP is talking about teams that had homegrown talent lead them to a championship, like the 15 Warriors, 14 Spurs, and 11 Mavs.
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Post#13 » by IgorK » Wed Jan 13, 2021 10:52 pm

Define "organic".

Is signing free agents organic? Is trading for players organic? Is changing coaches organic? Are there degrees to everything?

In reality, nobody has the right to define this concept universally. We all have opinions about it and everybody is right and wrong at the same time.
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Post#14 » by nzahir » Wed Jan 13, 2021 10:53 pm

so_bored wrote:Lebron started this BS. It's really all his fault. Can't wait for this fraud to retire.

Yes Lebron started the big 3 in boston

You do realize Wilt and Kareem wanted out in the 60s and 70s right?

And then many examples after that?

KD is the only guy I can recall who joined a prime MVP and has now played with THREE mvps in THEIR PRIME
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Post#15 » by Benedict_Boozer » Wed Jan 13, 2021 10:53 pm

Yeggo Poleggo wrote:Kobe Bryant was the very last one.


Didn't he demand his way to the Lakers before the draft? Even that situation wasn't totally by the book.

To answer the OP question nope, there is too much pressure on these guys to win rings so they will stack and when one team does it, it forces other teams to do it also.
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Post#16 » by 1993Playoffs » Wed Jan 13, 2021 10:53 pm

Organic = white guys in suits making decisions for the team because I don’t want players having any power ...........except for guys like Luka and Jokic.
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Post#17 » by iamworthy » Wed Jan 13, 2021 10:54 pm

Who cares. James harden going to the nets is super exciting.
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Post#18 » by Pacernation » Wed Jan 13, 2021 10:54 pm

I hope Luka will be that dude. Those American players just have no loyalty in them anymore.
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Post#19 » by DaddyCool19 » Wed Jan 13, 2021 10:54 pm

Weren't the Raptors kinda organic? I mean sure they traded for a Top 3 player, but the rest of the team sans Gasol was there for a while.

Or are you looking fir a team like the pre KD Warriors?
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Post#20 » by nitocobola » Wed Jan 13, 2021 10:55 pm

I agree. Nba is just **** awful at this point and I don't think that that will change any time soon.

People clown giannis for staying with the bucks. He will probably won't win a ring there but at least he would rather player for them than creating another superteam somewhere.

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