Top 10 SGs Right Now:

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Re: Top 10 SGs Right Now: 

Post#21 » by SpreeS » Thu Jul 14, 2022 12:56 pm

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SpreeS wrote:I have never thought that SG would be by far the weakest position in NBA. We dont have SG in TOP10 at the moment and I dont see top caliber young shooting guards.

It's been like that for a long time and been like that for most of the NBA's history.


We have decades for MJ/Drexler, Kobe/Wade, West and Harden as a TOP players. Now is f.... Booker is best SG in the league...and I dont see between young players TOP talents
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Re: Top 10 SGs Right Now: 

Post#22 » by HeartBreakKid » Thu Jul 14, 2022 12:59 pm

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HeartBreakKid wrote:
SpreeS wrote:I have never thought that SG would be by far the weakest position in NBA. We dont have SG in TOP10 at the moment and I dont see top caliber young shooting guards.

It's been like that for a long time and been like that for most of the NBA's history.


We have decades for MJ/Drexler, Kobe/Wade, West and Harden as a TOP players. Now is f.... Booker is best SG in the league...and I dont see between young players TOP talents

Yeah, Jordan and Kobe. They played a long ass time ago and the NBA existed for a long time before them. Clyde Drexler was not a real superstar.


James Harden is basically a point guard, and has even been officially labeled as such by his team (on occasion). He was just called an SG because he is usually the tallest guard on his team - ie someone like Beverly gets the nod as a PG even though Beverly plays like an SG and Harden plays like a PG.

Jerry West was definitely a point guard, and played before the distinction mattered.



But back to James Harden. Even if we pretend he is a shooting guard, which he is called that for arbitrary reasons, who was the 2nd best SG then? Or third? Bradley Beal and Klay Thompson basically. It's been like that for years...SG is the weakest position in basketball, and has been extra bad for the last decade or so - not a recent phenomenon at all.



SG is Kobe, Wade and Jordan - so yeah, big time stars and they all played around an age where most posters would be very impressionable. That gives this illusion that SG was greater than it is. It's been pretty ass, the fact that Clyde Drexler is mentioned here speaks volumes.

Compare Drexler to the 4th best PG, SF, PF, C and it's not a contest.
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Re: Top 10 SGs Right Now: 

Post#23 » by SpreeS » Thu Jul 14, 2022 1:17 pm

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SpreeS wrote:
HeartBreakKid wrote: It's been like that for a long time and been like that for most of the NBA's history.


We have decades for MJ/Drexler, Kobe/Wade, West and Harden as a TOP players. Now is f.... Booker is best SG in the league...and I dont see between young players TOP talents

Yeah, Jordan and Kobe. They played a long ass time ago and the NBA existed for a long time before them. Clyde Drexler was not a real superstar.


James Harden is basically a point guard, and has even been officially labeled as such by his team (on occasion). He was just called an SG because he is usually the tallest guard on his team - ie someone like Beverly gets the nod as a PG even though Beverly plays like an SG and Harden plays like a PG.

Jerry West was definitely a point guard, and played before the distinction mattered.



But back to James Harden. Even if we pretend he is a shooting guard, which he is called that for arbitrary reasons, who was the 2nd best SG then? Or third? Bradley Beal and Klay Thompson basically. It's been like that for years...SG is the weakest position in basketball, and has been extra bad for the last decade or so - not a recent phenomenon at all.



SG is Kobe, Wade and Jordan - so yeah, big time stars and they all played around an age where most posters would be very impressionable. That gives this illusion that SG was greater than it is. It's been pretty ass, the fact that Clyde Drexler is mentioned here speaks volumes.

Compare Drexler to the 4th best PG, SF, PF, C and it's not a contest.


West and Harden were the most career SG for me.
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Re: Top 10 SGs Right Now: 

Post#24 » by LukaTheGOAT » Fri Jul 15, 2022 8:48 am

I still believe Donovan Mitchell is the best 2 guard in the league

Donovan Mitchell the last 3 Playoffs

• 31.7 PPG
• 5.3 APG
• 60.6 TS% (+4.3 rTS)
• Utah had a +7.3 rOrTG which would qualify for first during that span.

I then would go Booker. Some guys too watch out for moving forward are Anthony Edwards and Shai Gilgeous-Alexander, 2 guys who can really put pressure on the rim.
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Re: Top 10 SGs Right Now: 

Post#25 » by LewisnotMiller » Fri Jul 15, 2022 11:56 am

HeartBreakKid wrote:
SpreeS wrote:I have never thought that SG would be by far the weakest position in NBA. We dont have SG in TOP10 at the moment and I dont see top caliber young shooting guards.

It's been like that for a long time and been like that for most of the NBA's history.


People of a certain vintage grew up watching Jordan dominate the league as a shooting guard. And whilst not at the same level, Kobe, even guys like T-Mac were high profile players. The depth wasn't amazing, even then, but I think it could give a skewed sense of how historically impactful the position has been.
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Re: Top 10 SGs Right Now: 

Post#26 » by SpreeS » Fri Jul 15, 2022 12:09 pm

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HeartBreakKid wrote:
SpreeS wrote:I have never thought that SG would be by far the weakest position in NBA. We dont have SG in TOP10 at the moment and I dont see top caliber young shooting guards.

It's been like that for a long time and been like that for most of the NBA's history.


People of a certain vintage grew up watching Jordan dominate the league as a shooting guard. And whilst not at the same level, Kobe, even guys like T-Mac were high profile players. The depth wasn't amazing, even then, but I think it could give a skewed sense of how historically impactful the position has been.


Exactly. Jordan/Iverson/McGrady/Carter/Wade/Kobe/Miller had so much more fans than way better bigs.

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