Elpolo_14 wrote:Deuce33 wrote:Too easy, Kobe and Melo
Explanation?
Brother do you see these dates
LBJ/Wade v Kobe/Melo
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LOL...I thought the same thing. Far too many people saying Kobe and Melo. Even the "Lebron can't play off ball" canard.
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Triangle Theory wrote:Who you got?
The team with Lebron, and it's not close.
Warspite wrote:Billups was a horrible scorer who could only score with an open corner 3 or a FT.
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Not sure the reason for digging up such a random comparison post from 17 years ago lol.
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Generally opposed to thread necromancy, but it's fascinating to see how opinions have developed over time, both in terms of the thinking and also how careers played out...
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rrravenred wrote:Generally opposed to thread necromancy, but it's fascinating to see how opinions have developed over time, both in terms of the thinking and also how careers played out...
To me the most interesting thing is to see the level of player comparison discussions now compared to what was going on in 2008. The nuance and detailed analysis we have now compared to then…this might as well be a discussion for 1980.
lessthanjake wrote:Kyrie was extremely impactful without LeBron, and basically had zero impact whatsoever if LeBron was on the court.
lessthanjake wrote: By playing in a way that prevents Kyrie from getting much impact, LeBron ensures that controlling for Kyrie has limited effect…
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homecourtloss wrote:To me the most interesting thing is to see the level of player comparison discussions now compared to what was going on in 2008. The nuance and detailed analysis we have now compared to then…this might as well be a discussion for 1980.
Couple of years after this we instituted a "no post padding" rule, partially due to that level of response. Being fair, the use (and availability) of advanced stats was still pretty uneven at this point.
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Kobe and Melo would have been a horrendous pairing. Two primary isolation players, one of them a fairly weak playmaker and an awful defender. That fit is terrible. Lebron and Wade had their issues, but they were both very good passers and defenders... and then James adapted his game to post more and shoot better from 3, which helped a lot.
Kobe and Melo would be a selection entirely driven by fan preference for the aesthetic of playground isolation, and little else.
Kobe and Melo would be a selection entirely driven by fan preference for the aesthetic of playground isolation, and little else.
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Acknowledging this was mid playoffs in Kobe's MVP year...even at the time these were bad opinions.
- "Wade and Lebron are too ball dominant."
- "At least Kobe and Melo can play off the ball."
- "Wade and Lebron are too ball dominant."
- "At least Kobe and Melo can play off the ball."
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OmniDEN wrote:LeBron and Wade are too ball dominant, atleast with Kobe and Carmelo you know that Carmelo would make a living getting open looks off the ball.
…what?
Edit: didn’t realize this was a 17 year old post lol.