Retro POY '63-64 (voting complete)

[Optimism Prime]

'63-64 Results

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Player               1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th Pts   POY Shares
1. Wilt Chamberlain    9   6   1   0   0  137   0.856
2. Bill Russell        5   8   3   2   0  121   0.756
3. Oscar Robertson     2   2  12   0   0   94   0.588
4. Jerry West          0   0   0  15   1   55   0.344
5. Bob Pettit          0   0   0   1  15   18   0.113


Just at a glance, I see Russell totals 18 votes while the others all total 16. Is that a typo?

Yup. I just copied the table from a previous thread and forgot to take out that field. It's been corrected, and shouldn't have affected the points at all (since I calculated them on paper before typing them in).

[JordansBulls]

'63-64 Results

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Player               1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th Pts   POY Shares
1. Wilt Chamberlain    9   6   1   0   0  137   0.856
2. Bill Russell        5   8   3   0   0  121   0.756
3. Oscar Robertson     2   2  12   0   0   94   0.588
4. Jerry West          0   0   0  15   1   55   0.344
5. Bob Pettit          0   0   0   1  15   18   0.113


I'm wondering is Oscar going to finish higher than 3rd any year?

[Optimism Prime]

'63-64 Results

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Player               1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th Pts   POY Shares
1. Wilt Chamberlain    9   6   1   0   0  137   0.856
2. Bill Russell        5   8   3   0   0  121   0.756
3. Oscar Robertson     2   2  12   0   0   94   0.588
4. Jerry West          0   0   0  15   1   55   0.344
5. Bob Pettit          0   0   0   1  15   18   0.113


I'm wondering is Oscar going to finish higher than 3rd any year?

If not, it's no reflection on, or slight against, him--just bad luck to be going against Wilt and Russ the whole time.

[Dr Positivity]

Oscar's actually done a little better than I expected, share wise. I thought people would put him below West a lot cause of team success and he'd really get burned with 4th places every year. But Oscar's great ORTGs helped him get through those mediocre W/L records. He should end up around Kobe which is about right

[JordansBulls]

'63-64 Results

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Player               1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th Pts   POY Shares
1. Wilt Chamberlain    9   6   1   0   0  137   0.856
2. Bill Russell        5   8   3   0   0  121   0.756
3. Oscar Robertson     2   2  12   0   0   94   0.588
4. Jerry West          0   0   0  15   1   55   0.344
5. Bob Pettit          0   0   0   1  15   18   0.113


I'm wondering is Oscar going to finish higher than 3rd any year?

If not, it's no reflection on, or slight against, him--just bad luck to be going against Wilt and Russ the whole time.

Anyway to update the title to say Voting complete?

[shawngoat23]

Hey, not that this is Bush v. Gore or anything, but I think you miscounted the Pettit/West votes, because drza and I both had Pettit at #4.

I'm not really particular either way because I think West is a great candidate at #4 as well, plus I like him a lot.

[JordansBulls]

Hey, not that this is Bush v. Gore or anything, but I think you miscounted the Pettit/West votes, because drza and I both had Pettit at #4.

I'm not really particular either way because I think West is a great candidate at #4 as well, plus I like him a lot.

Also I think he counted a few posters twice. Some posters give there rankings twice. I know Dr Mufasa does at times.

[Optimism Prime]

Hey, not that this is Bush v. Gore or anything, but I think you miscounted the Pettit/West votes, because drza and I both had Pettit at #4.

I'm not really particular either way because I think West is a great candidate at #4 as well, plus I like him a lot.

Also I think he counted a few posters twice. Some posters give there rankings twice. I know Dr Mufasa does at times.

Actually, I missed drza entirely. Recalculated the tally (see below).

And no, JB, pretty sure I got everyone (now including drza) once: You, Dr Mufasa, penbeast0, drza, tkb, semi-sentient, Dr MJ, TrueLAFan, ronnymac2, bastillon, Sedale Threatt, fatal9, shawngoat23, DavidStern, tharegul8r, myself, and ElGee.

'63-64 Results

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Player               1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th Pts   POY Shares
1. Wilt Chamberlain   10   6   1   0   0  147   0.864
2. Bill Russell        5   9   3   0   0  128   0.753
3. Oscar Robertson     2   2  13   0   0   99   0.582
4. Jerry West          0   0   0  15   2   56   0.329
5. Bob Pettit          0   0   0   2  15   21   0.124


[semi-sentient]

Site updated: www.dolem.com/poy

Wilt moves up past Dr J. and is now eye-balling Shaq, Bird, and Duncan. Russell leap frogs Kobe, Hakeem, and Malone to take the #9 spot just being Dr. J. I'm expecting russell to pass both Dr J and Wilt after the next round of voting is completed. West is likely done moving up, but he did pass up both Garnett and Malone.

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1.  Kareem Abdul-Jabbar   10.221
2.  Michael Jordan         9.578
3.  Magic Johnson          7.114
4.  Tim Duncan             6.153
5.  Larry Bird             6.147
6.  Shaquille O'Neal       5.910
7.  Wilt Chamberlain       5.524
8.  Julius Erving          5.046
9.  Bill Russell           4.726
10. Karl Malone            4.649
11. Hakeem Olajuwon        4.380
12. Kobe Bryant            4.326
13. Jerry West             3.661
14. Moses Malone           3.478
15. Kevin Garnett          3.388

[Doctor MJ]

Back again.

I want to thank OP for shouldering the load while I was gone, and everyone else for their politeness and additional sets of eyes. The whole tallying process is pain-staking, and it's easy to make mistakes, particularly if you're new to it, and the old guy doesn't tell you everything.

Cheers,
Doc