The LeBron Thread 2021 Off-Season Edition

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Post#1761 » by Fadeaway_J » Thu Aug 12, 2021 2:44 am

nzahir wrote:Any reason we went for Wayne instead of JJ?

JJ likely will end up in BKN, insane how much talent and shooting they got

There's a distinct possiblity JJ is washed. He was trash last season.

Either way, I strongly doubt he's playing important playoff minutes for anyone next season.
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Post#1762 » by falcolombardi » Thu Aug 12, 2021 3:45 am

joe johnson??? who is jj?
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Post#1763 » by HeartBreakKid » Thu Aug 12, 2021 4:15 am

falcolombardi wrote:joe johnson??? who is jj?


I'm assuming JJ Reddick.
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Post#1764 » by falcolombardi » Thu Aug 12, 2021 4:44 am

didnt he stop hitting 3's in pelicans ? along with (i assume) being a bad defender at his age and size
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Post#1765 » by GSP » Thu Aug 12, 2021 5:04 am

nzahir wrote:Any reason we went for Wayne instead of JJ?

JJ likely will end up in BKN, insane how much talent and shooting they got


Jj is done.... Him and Iggy are in the same boat and the oldest players in the league IIRC

Ellington is better now. Jj has been perennially injured and just shot to bits. He'd do nothing for Brooklyn anyways I mean they have Kyrie, Harden, Joe, Patty, Brown.... Does anyone think he's gonna get actual playing time in the playoffs? He wouldn't be part of their rotation and is a garbage time guy at this point in his career. Jevon Carter and Embry are more useful for their team than Jj would be
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Post#1766 » by Freighttrain » Thu Aug 12, 2021 12:04 pm

thebigbird wrote:
Greyhound wrote:Bradley would be a better signing for that team.

No interest in Bradley after he quit on them in the bubble tbh


His kid had a history of respiratory illness and he chose to opt-out in a period in time where things were still unclear about COVID. I mean you can't really fault him for taking the precautionary road at that moment
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Post#1767 » by Freighttrain » Thu Aug 12, 2021 12:06 pm

Getting Milsap for the minimum would be a steal. Is that even possible? He's probably going to any of the contenders such as Brooklyn or us to have the best chance. Golden State as an outsider and Denver aswell.
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Post#1768 » by Greyhound » Thu Aug 12, 2021 1:10 pm

Freighttrain wrote:Getting Milsap for the minimum would be a steal. Is that even possible? He's probably going to any of the contenders such as Brooklyn or us to have the best chance. Golden State as an outsider and Denver aswell.

There are enough Golden boys on the Lakers. Give that spot to a young big trying to come up (like Cacok or someone from the G league).
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Post#1769 » by trickshot » Thu Aug 12, 2021 1:22 pm



Thought this was a great flashback to the finals Lebron had in 13. Diaw really couldn't guard Lebron in well spaced lineups but with Wade on the floor Spurs just clogged a bunch of defenders into every possible path he could blow round him. We all remembered Lebron's jumper being shaky but that alone should never have been enough to have Diaw on him if the interior wasn't packed with help defenders.

Bringing us to the present day, am curious to see how the Lakers overcome this kind of defense in the playoffs. All I can say is be ready to ditch the politics to bench Westbrook if it's in the best interest of AD and Lebron in 4th quarters and final possessions. Especially AD who is appalling against doubles.

Westbrook should be the defacto initiator but I think AD and Lebron will still need space to run isolation to break most opponents gameplans. Don't overcomplicate it, just have Monk or Nunn in if things aren't working out. Even Rondo was pulled from a couple closing possessions in favour of Caruso.
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Post#1770 » by Homer38 » Thu Aug 12, 2021 1:34 pm

donnieme wrote:

Thought this was a great flashback to the finals Lebron had in 13. Diaw really couldn't guard Lebron in well spaced lineups but with Wade on the floor Spurs just clogged a bunch of defenders into every possible path he could blow round him. We all remembered Lebron's jumper being shaky but that alone should never have been enough to have Diaw on him if the interior wasn't packed with help defenders.

Bringing us to the present day, am curious to see how the Lakers overcome this kind of defense in the playoffs. All I can say is be ready to ditch the politics to bench Westbrook if it's in the best interest of AD and Lebron in 4th quarters and final possessions. Especially AD who is appalling against doubles.

Westbrook should be the defacto initiator but I think AD and Lebron will still need space to run isolation to break most opponents gameplans. Don't overcomplicate it, just have Monk or Nunn in if things aren't working out. Even Rondo was pulled from a couple closing possessions in favour of Caruso.


At the same time, I don't think that a current NBA team have a great protection rim like the spurs had with Duncan still great in this role
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Post#1771 » by trickshot » Thu Aug 12, 2021 1:38 pm

Homer38 wrote:
donnieme wrote:

Thought this was a great flashback to the finals Lebron had in 13. Diaw really couldn't guard Lebron in well spaced lineups but with Wade on the floor Spurs just clogged a bunch of defenders into every possible path he could blow round him. We all remembered Lebron's jumper being shaky but that alone should never have been enough to have Diaw on him if the interior wasn't packed with help defenders.

Bringing us to the present day, am curious to see how the Lakers overcome this kind of defense in the playoffs. All I can say is be ready to ditch the politics to bench Westbrook if it's in the best interest of AD and Lebron in 4th quarters and final possessions. Especially AD who is appalling against doubles.

Westbrook should be the defacto initiator but I think AD and Lebron will still need space to run isolation to break most opponents gameplans. Don't overcomplicate it, just have Monk or Nunn in if things aren't working out. Even Rondo was pulled from a couple closing possessions in favour of Caruso.


At the same time, I don't think that a current NBA team have a great protection rim like the spurs had with Duncan still great in this role

For sure, no doubt, but those teams wouldn't need a Duncan, remember even Roy Hibbert was enough for the Pacers. Many lesser bigmen can fill that role. Some teams just become exponentially harder to beat when their big can camp in the paint.
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Post#1772 » by Freighttrain » Thu Aug 12, 2021 1:38 pm

Greyhound wrote:
Freighttrain wrote:Getting Milsap for the minimum would be a steal. Is that even possible? He's probably going to any of the contenders such as Brooklyn or us to have the best chance. Golden State as an outsider and Denver aswell.

There are enough Golden boys on the Lakers. Give that spot to a young big trying to come up (like Cacok or someone from the G league).


We don't need a young guy that needs to get experience on this roster as minutes will be hard to get behind AD. Someone like Milsap can shoot and stretch the floor as a big and can be of better value.
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Post#1773 » by The Master » Thu Aug 12, 2021 2:23 pm

Freighttrain wrote:Getting Milsap for the minimum would be a steal. Is that even possible? He's probably going to any of the contenders such as Brooklyn or us to have the best chance. Golden State as an outsider and Denver aswell.

It would be insanely good steal, but I don't think it will happen, he's still good enough to play in contender-level team for tax-level MLE if he's interested in that.

James Ennis? I observed him for two seasons in Sixers and regardless of his shooting splits last year it would be meeh move, another roster filler for RS only, I wish to get a little bit bigger upside at least for one roster spot (assuming the other is for Dudley). Rumors about Isaiah are meh as well, it doesn't make any sense at this point.
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Post#1774 » by thebigbird » Thu Aug 12, 2021 2:33 pm

Freighttrain wrote:
thebigbird wrote:
Greyhound wrote:Bradley would be a better signing for that team.

No interest in Bradley after he quit on them in the bubble tbh


His kid had a history of respiratory illness and he chose to opt-out in a period in time where things were still unclear about COVID. I mean you can't really fault him for taking the precautionary road at that moment

I know that’s the reason that he gave, but a month after the bubble he signed with the Miami Heat. If you’re trying to avoid Covid for your kid’s sake, Florida was probably the worst state he could’ve signed to play in. Plus, the bubble was probably the safest place in the world to be at that time. So, I’m skeptical of the reason he gave, but it doesn’t really matter at this point.
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The LeBron Thread 2021 Off-Season Edition 

Post#1775 » by Greyhound » Fri Aug 13, 2021 3:22 am

Freighttrain wrote:
Greyhound wrote:
Freighttrain wrote:Getting Milsap for the minimum would be a steal. Is that even possible? He's probably going to any of the contenders such as Brooklyn or us to have the best chance. Golden State as an outsider and Denver aswell.

There are enough Golden boys on the Lakers. Give that spot to a young big trying to come up (like Cacok or someone from the G league).


We don't need a young guy that needs to get experience on this roster as minutes will be hard to get behind AD. Someone like Milsap can shoot and stretch the floor as a big and can be of better value.


A young G League player (like Cacok) would not need experience or minutes. His role would be as a practice champion and a guy ready to plug in if guys are out or injured. It’s the role he has played for two seasons now (he can just move to the active roster instead of two way deal to do it).

The Lakers do not need another mid to high 30 year old player on the roster (they have maxed out on those). Give that spot to a young able-bodied individual.

Not a prospect with “potential”, but a G League grinder type who is happy just to be in the league.

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A James Ennis type would be good too.
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Post#1776 » by Slava » Fri Aug 13, 2021 7:59 am

nzahir wrote:Any reason we went for Wayne instead of JJ?

JJ likely will end up in BKN, insane how much talent and shooting they got


He has nerve issues in his back, the same thing Nash suffered from when he got to LA.
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Post#1777 » by zimpy27 » Fri Aug 13, 2021 8:08 am

Slava wrote:
nzahir wrote:Any reason we went for Wayne instead of JJ?

JJ likely will end up in BKN, insane how much talent and shooting they got


Heh as nerve issues in his back, the same thing Nash suffered from when he got to LA.


Also, JJ has been wanting Brooklyn for a long time, he lives there. Doubt Lakers had a shot.
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Post#1778 » by PistolPeteJR » Sat Aug 14, 2021 3:57 am

donnieme wrote:
Homer38 wrote:
donnieme wrote:

Thought this was a great flashback to the finals Lebron had in 13. Diaw really couldn't guard Lebron in well spaced lineups but with Wade on the floor Spurs just clogged a bunch of defenders into every possible path he could blow round him. We all remembered Lebron's jumper being shaky but that alone should never have been enough to have Diaw on him if the interior wasn't packed with help defenders.

Bringing us to the present day, am curious to see how the Lakers overcome this kind of defense in the playoffs. All I can say is be ready to ditch the politics to bench Westbrook if it's in the best interest of AD and Lebron in 4th quarters and final possessions. Especially AD who is appalling against doubles.

Westbrook should be the defacto initiator but I think AD and Lebron will still need space to run isolation to break most opponents gameplans. Don't overcomplicate it, just have Monk or Nunn in if things aren't working out. Even Rondo was pulled from a couple closing possessions in favour of Caruso.


At the same time, I don't think that a current NBA team have a great protection rim like the spurs had with Duncan still great in this role

For sure, no doubt, but those teams wouldn't need a Duncan, remember even Roy Hibbert was enough for the Pacers. Many lesser bigmen can fill that role. Some teams just become exponentially harder to beat when their big can camp in the paint.


Not fully true. Hibbert was nowhere the passer Duncan was.
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Re: The LeBron Thread 2021 Off-Season Edition 

Post#1779 » by trickshot » Sat Aug 14, 2021 10:51 am

PistolPeteJR wrote:
donnieme wrote:
Homer38 wrote:
At the same time, I don't think that a current NBA team have a great protection rim like the spurs had with Duncan still great in this role

For sure, no doubt, but those teams wouldn't need a Duncan, remember even Roy Hibbert was enough for the Pacers. Many lesser bigmen can fill that role. Some teams just become exponentially harder to beat when their big can camp in the paint.


Not fully true. Hibbert was nowhere the passer Duncan was.

Don't do me like that man, read the establishing post. People are now going to think we were comparing Roy Hibbert to Duncan.
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