A.Randolph vs M.Beasley

[J-Rich-]

Speaking about personalities... Anyone remember this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKuvbtFZFCY

Odom made Randolph cry.

Randolph will make the rest of the league cry in a year or two

[BBallFreak]

thats good i never hated on Beasley, now he has to sustain that type of level of play, not show it every ten games and prove y he was the #2 pick

Like Randolph has been doing? Seriously, dude had 2 good games at the beginning of March. Other than that, he really can't touch Beasley.

lets bring this thread up next season, since both players are showing the type of player we expect them to be, its going to be really interesting

Probably a good idea, since Beasley's going to get to do his thing in the playoffs while Randolph's sample size is about to end (not a shot at him or the W's, just a fact)...

[Wade2k6]

Beasley with 20 / 8.5 / 1.8 on 55.1 % from the field in the month of April.

[Flash3]

WadeKnicks getting owned in this thread. Darn, it must suck to be him right now

His team got Beasley'd Last night.

[WadeKnicks2010]

WadeKnicks getting owned in this thread. Darn, it must suck to be him right now

His team got Beasley'd Last night.

I thought there was a player on "Beasley's team" that got 55 points and is an MVP candidate but ok lets just ignore that.

[BBallFreak]

I thought there was a player on "Beasley's team" that got 55 points and is an MVP candidate but ok lets just ignore that.

Absolutely, but 28 and 16 certainly was a contributor...

[Flash3]

WadeKnicks getting owned in this thread. Darn, it must suck to be him right now

His team got Beasley'd Last night.

I thought there was a player on "Beasley's team" that got 55 points and is an MVP candidate but ok lets just ignore that.

So, be it. Beasley AND Wade shredded the Defense (NOT! -- Steve Smith on NBATV) last night.

Your dislike for Beasley is bleeding right through in this thread with some of the comments, or lack there of you've put forth that have done NOTHING to support your claims, from the ill-advised pastes of articles leaving out the other end of the story to posting non-sense....

[WadeKnicks2010]

Nah. Lets see what Beasley's done this week

NO: Gave up two huge shots to David West to win the Hornets the game

Celtics: Got the game deciding turnover.

Two losses right there, where he played a major part.

[BBallFreak]

Nah. Lets see what Beasley's done this week

NO: Gave up two huge shots to David West to win the Hornets the game

Celtics: Got the game deciding turnover.

Two losses right there, where he played a major part.

He's a rookie. Show me a rookie who hasn't lost a game or two and I'll call you a liar. You really are a hater, and that's ridiculous. Did Beasley sleep with your mom or something?

[Flash3]

Nah. Lets see what Beasley's done this week

NO: Gave up two huge shots to David West to win the Hornets the game

Celtics: Got the game deciding turnover.

Two losses right there, where he played a major part.

What???-- Beasley was DRAPED ALL OVER HIM WITH GREAT DEFENSE! Shows how much you know/watched....

Once again, you're proving what I said to the point; your dislike for the player is bleeding right through in your posts.

The NO's game wasn't his fault, in the end, it was Wade's who could've iced the game with a 4pt lead by hitting that FT at the end, and even that miraculous Butler 3 went in, NO would've still been down 1, with no time on the clock. -- But, no one's blaming Wade here, and I'm definitely not.

Plus, David West was held under his normal average, way under until he went for the rest in OT. -- Why not bring up the 1st 4 quarters? -- Why hide that in your blatant attempt to discredit the kid?And, Wade had a chance to tie the game at the end, but turned it over, is that Beasley's fault?

Come on, dude! - Give it up. You're throwing non-sense hoping it will stick, but it's not. You say only what you want to say, which hides the truth, bringing no substance to your posts, in essence pure fabrication.

[Wade2k6]

Nah. Lets see what Beasley's done this week

NO: Gave up two huge shots to David West to win the Hornets the game

Celtics: Got the game deciding turnover.

Two losses right there, where he played a major part.

What do you mean "gave up" two huge shots to West? His hand was in his face on both of those shots. Those are the type of shots where you give credit to the offensive player for just making a very tough shot. And i find it amusing that you forget to mention West shot 36% from the field in that game, as well as scoring under his season average and rebound average. But ya know, who cares about that when West took 2 very difficult shots at the end of OT and made them

It was a bad play. He's a rookie, do you expect him not to make any mistakes? Well I hate to break it to you but even all-time greats like MJ, Bird, Magic and great players in todays game like LeBron, Kobe, Wade all make mistakes, and have made mistakes since their rookie years.

I find it pretty amusing that you also keep the Knicks game out of it ( ), big suprise there. You refuse to give the kid credit, when he has had a better year then Randolph and has a higher ceiling. Give credit where credit is due.

[GswStorm3]

Nah. Lets see what Beasley's done this week

NO: Gave up two huge shots to David West to win the Hornets the game

Celtics: Got the game deciding turnover.

Two losses right there, where he played a major part.

What do you mean "gave up" two huge shots to West? His hand was in his face on both of those shots. Those are the type of shots where you give credit to the offensive player for just making a very tough shot. And i find it amusing that you forget to mention West shot 36% from the field in that game, as well as scoring under his season average and rebound average. But ya know, who cares about that when West took 2 very difficult shots at the end of OT and made them

It was a bad play. He's a rookie, do you expect him not to make any mistakes? Well I hate to break it to you but even all-time greats like MJ, Bird, Magic and great players in todays game like LeBron, Kobe, Wade all make mistakes, and have made mistakes since their rookie years.

I find it pretty amusing that you also keep the Knicks game out of it ( ), big suprise there. You refuse to give the kid credit, when he has had a better year then Randolph and has a higher ceiling. Give credit where credit is due.

I just disagree, Beasley is much closer to reaching his peak than Randolph.

[Flash3]

Nah. Lets see what Beasley's done this week

NO: Gave up two huge shots to David West to win the Hornets the game

Celtics: Got the game deciding turnover.

Two losses right there, where he played a major part.

What do you mean "gave up" two huge shots to West? His hand was in his face on both of those shots. Those are the type of shots where you give credit to the offensive player for just making a very tough shot. And i find it amusing that you forget to mention West shot 36% from the field in that game, as well as scoring under his season average and rebound average. But ya know, who cares about that when West took 2 very difficult shots at the end of OT and made them

It was a bad play. He's a rookie, do you expect him not to make any mistakes? Well I hate to break it to you but even all-time greats like MJ, Bird, Magic and great players in todays game like LeBron, Kobe, Wade all make mistakes, and have made mistakes since their rookie years.

I find it pretty amusing that you also keep the Knicks game out of it ( ), big suprise there. You refuse to give the kid credit, when he has had a better year then Randolph and has a higher ceiling. Give credit where credit is due.

I just disagree, Beasley is much closer to reaching his peak than Randolph.

How? -- he's yet to even have a FULL season of Playing Time with Normal minutes, and he's only shown this much. Project the kid playing 36-44 mins (starter mins) a nite, and the potential is limitless with what the Heat coaching staff can do with their youngsters in the off-season. Just take a look at the year 1- year 2 changes the most recent youngsters have gone through with the Heat.

-Dwyane Wade
-Caron Butler
-Rasual Butler
-Udonis Haslem
-Daequan Cook

Working with the staff in the offseason will give Michael more knowledge on how to take advantage of certain match-ups with his talent/skills, that right now he's just not doing, given he is a rookie and that's expected.

[Wade2k6]

I just disagree, Beasley is much closer to reaching his peak than Randolph.

What makes you think Beasley is closer to his peak then Randolph, much less MUCH closer?

[J-Rich-]

It's simple, Beasley is getting a decent amount of minutes so he's showing more right now. Randolph is getting held back by the lack of minutes by our horrible coach even though Randolph deserves at least 38 minutes a game right now with the way he's played for a very long time but will end up with less than 18mpg for the season. GS needs a pf and randolph is the missing piece that warriors have needed for years but Kurz, who is a loser scrub who will be playing in europe next year is getting some of Randolph's minutes. So like I said, Beasley has played more and shown what he is capable of doing in the future. Randolph has shown what he is capable of with limited amount of minutes but he isn't even close to reaching his peak because he's not getting the minutes he needs

[GswStorm3]

J Rich pretty much said what I was thinking.

I'll just continue to add that Randolph will always have the higher defensive upside than Beasley which makes or breaks a franchise power forward. Randolph's tremendous length smokes Beasley's length by a large margin.

[Tim_Hardawayy]

J Rich pretty much said what I was thinking.

I'll just continue to add that Randolph will always have the higher defensive upside than Beasley which makes or breaks a franchise power forward. Randolph's tremendous length smokes Beasley's length by a large margin.

Its too bad length and upside aren't basketball statistics or Randolph would really pwn Beasley.

[GswStorm3]

Wrong, his length only helps his great shot blocking. Of course you're going to look at upside with a 19 year old to project him down the road.

[Tim_Hardawayy]

Wrong, his length only helps his great shot blocking. Of course you're going to look at upside with a 19 year old to project him down the road.

Whoosh, right over your head huh?

Btw upside and potential don't really work in the manner that you assume they do. Just because a players minutes increase doesn't necessarily mean his production and efficiency will as well. If that were the case, Dorell Wright (who has barely played for the Heat this season) would be ready to break out and become the next T-Mac if he only got playing time. He has amazing length, and tons of upside! His potential is through the roof!

[GswStorm3]

One difference, Randolph is excelling at a high level his rookie season and Dorell Wright never got off the bench his first two seasons. Very poor example on upside and potential.