All-Time Fantasy Draft With FGA Limit - Meta Thread

[Doctor MJ]

the long beach longshoreman

T H E L O N G B E A C H L O N G S H O R E M A N

Ah yeah. Glad someone noticed that.

[MisterHibachi]

Awesome, awesome pick. I thought for sure you had someone else in mind, but West was a guy I was strongly targeting and hoping against hope he was gonna fall through the cracks.

Thank you, and thanks everyone saying nice things. This one really worked out for me. When the 2nd round began West was at the top of my list to pair with Bird. I kinda can't believe I actually got him.

You're lucky. I had like 4 guys I wanted with my back to back, and all of them gone lol

[Doctor MJ]

Awesome, awesome pick. I thought for sure you had someone else in mind, but West was a guy I was strongly targeting and hoping against hope he was gonna fall through the cracks.

Thank you, and thanks everyone saying nice things. This one really worked out for me. When the 2nd round began West was at the top of my list to pair with Bird. I kinda can't believe I actually got him.

You're lucky. I had like 4 guys I wanted with my back to back, and all of them gone lol

Yup. I know that feeling.

[lilroddyb]

I understand if some look at Kawhi pick like a reach but I really like it a lot. He has an impact on the defense like an elite defensive big and he might be the best wing defender of alltime. His offense has been growing a lot over the years and now he has one of the best three point shot in the league shooting at 44% on 4 attempts per game.

[E-Balla]

I understand if some look at Kawhi pick like a reach but I really like it a lot. He has an impact on the defense like an elite defensive big and he might be the best wing defender of alltime. His offense has been growing a lot over the years and now he has one of the best three point shot in the league shooting at 44% on 4 attempts per game.

He's one of the worst players taken so far but far from the worst pick. He fits anywhere well. I almost took him instead of Nash actually.

[Clyde Frazier]

Went back and forth in my head a million times with one pick in between my next one, but going with my gut here:

2010 Dwight Howard



I love the fit with lebron on both ends of the floor. They’d be flat out deadly in the P&R (lebron very solid from mid range in 2013 and dwight has always been an elite roll man), and both guys fill the lane in transition as well as anyone at their positions.

Defensively, dwight’s a great anchor in his own right, but also mobile enough to switch with ease and even trap with lebron when the opportunity presents itself. His 59% FT shooting isn’t great by any means, but not disastrous, either. He also had an overall TS% of 63% that season.

At this point in his career, dwight still had his head on straight for the most part. I can see lebron getting the most out of him as far as focus is concerned, with on court chemistry playing a large role in that.

[May switch to 09 or 2011, but i’ll stick with 2010 for the time being]

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You're up.

[Dr Spaceman]

I understand if some look at Kawhi pick like a reach but I really like it a lot. He has an impact on the defense like an elite defensive big and he might be the best wing defender of alltime. His offense has been growing a lot over the years and now he has one of the best three point shot in the league shooting at 44% on 4 attempts per game.

Definitely not a reach. He most likely would not have made it more than 2 or 3 picks past you and if by some miracle he did I certainly would have taken him.

[Timmaytime]

I understand if some look at Kawhi pick like a reach but I really like it a lot. He has an impact on the defense like an elite defensive big and he might be the best wing defender of alltime. His offense has been growing a lot over the years and now he has one of the best three point shot in the league shooting at 44% on 4 attempts per game.

Definitely not a reach. He most likely would not have made it more than 2 or 3 picks past you and if by some miracle he did I certainly would have taken him.

Yeah if he would have dropped to my pick I would have strongly considered him, although I think I would have still taken Scottie

[lilroddyb]

I understand if some look at Kawhi pick like a reach but I really like it a lot. He has an impact on the defense like an elite defensive big and he might be the best wing defender of alltime. His offense has been growing a lot over the years and now he has one of the best three point shot in the league shooting at 44% on 4 attempts per game.

Definitely not a reach. He most likely would not have made it more than 2 or 3 picks past you and if by some miracle he did I certainly would have taken him.

Yeah if he would have dropped to my pick I would have strongly considered him, although I think I would have still taken Scottie

Ye Pippen and Kawhi is a good debate imo. I know Pippen is better ballhandler but I liked Kawhi more for his 3point shooting

[Clyde Frazier]

Just speaking for myself here: I'm not taking the FGA limit seriously to the point that I would actively choose a worse team in order to try to win as that seems pretty pointless. I don't know who I would have picked first between Durant or Kawhi as my #1 guy here, but I can certainly see an argument for Kawhi.

But it does influence the thought process, no? Michael Jordan dropped to the 4th pick. I might end up changing years for Shaq to a non-peak year to get his FGA a bit lower. With no FGA limit, neither of those things would happen. I mean a certain all-time great Laker hasn't been taken yet and I suspect its mostly because of his FGA, not because he's hard to build around.

It clearly does for some but not for me. If this makes it so I can't win the game, that's too bad but I'll live with it.

I will say though that FGA constraints were first put in place in things like this to help encourage people to actually think about chemistry rather than having a team full of scorers - in other words to help them build better teams, not worse teams. So to me if what I'm doing fits with the spirit of such constraints I figure I'm good. I'm not going to go around tallying FGAs on bkref, but I am conscious of the need for balance and the compromise that players on my team would need to be willing to make in taking on roles of lower scoring primacy.

Not sure if you saw my post earlier in the thread — viewtopic.php?p=46963443#p46963443 , but to elaborate:

I’m paying attention to FGAs, but not at the expense of talent or fit. With 2013 lebron vs. 91 jordan, they were pretty close in my mind, and the FGAs left over by taking lebron just tipped the scales for me. Since we have a hard max for FGAs, I don’t want to get down to say the last 3 spots and have to pass on guys i really like because they attempted a shot or 2 more than I have left. If I can save a few FGAs here and there with my picks, that’s just added value to me.

[MisterHibachi]

I need a perimeter creator to go with Shaq, one who can close out games when teams start fouling Shaq. Such a tough decision because of the FGA, but I really cannot pass this chance up and he deserves to be drafted.

I'm taking the Mamba - MVP version.



With my third pick, I need a steadying hand at point. I need someone can take the ball away from Kobe when he gets a little shot happy and who can get the ball to Shaq in the right places. He needs to be a floor spacer as well.

I'm taking Jason Kidd 2010, at 8.4 FGA and 42.5% from three at 5.2 shots a game. His last all star appearance, he'll be the locker room leader and keep Kobe and Shaq focused on the prize, at least for one year.

Also, to fit Kobe, I'm changing my Shaq year to 2002.

[MisterHibachi]

You're on.

[MyUniBroDavis]

I understand if some look at Kawhi pick like a reach but I really like it a lot. He has an impact on the defense like an elite defensive big and he might be the best wing defender of alltime. His offense has been growing a lot over the years and now he has one of the best three point shot in the league shooting at 44% on 4 attempts per game.

Kawhi almost has a green effect, if you know what I mean, in how rare he is. I mean, a dpoty, who can shoot 44% from three, is extremely efficient, and is legitimately a top 5 player (possibly 2)?

Now, while this is all fine and dandy, there's a big difference in the talent pool between small forwards and power forwards available, especially considering kawhi only takes 15 shots.

Great pick imo. When I was going to get in the draft but decided not to him or green were my clear choice for 2nd pick. (Because of my structure)

[theonlyclutch]

Hibachi, Q, and Doc going the top-heavy route I see...

[Jory04]

Kidd was a great pick there.

[MisterHibachi]

Hibachi, Q, and Doc going the top-heavy route I see...

01 Lakers upgraded.

[E-Balla]

Kidd was a great pick there.

Forreal. The 01 Lakers are going to be pretty good.

[Texas Chuck]

I'm taking Jason Kidd 2010, at 8.4 FGA and 42.5% from three at 5.2 shots a game. His last all star appearance, he'll be the locker room leader and keep Kobe and Shaq focused on the prize, at least for one year.

Figured old man Kidd would get taken. Really solid pick and perfect with your duo.

[lilroddyb]

wow thats some strong trio of shaq, kobe and kidd

[pelifan]

Curious to see what strategy works best. I mean picking up low usage championship guys over more talented volume guys seems to be a good idea. Grabbing KG, Manu, Nash, low volume greats in the early rounds from loaded teams and start going more high usage when everyone else is capped out for shots per game. But you could also go two high usage all time greats and then just go defense and low volume shooters.I think I would probably do the former but it's interesting to see how it works out.