PC Board OT Thread Take 4 [No Politics]

[eminence]

My wife went to hospital with a fever, shortness of breath and incredibly bad body aches (she could barely speak/move) in general.

Her family also live with us, and her dad has had every health problem imaginable, and almost died from the flu last year.

Luckily, she got discharged and the tests revealed her to be coronavirus negative. But damn, what a fright.

Australia hasn't been hit too badly with the virus yet, and I don't think there have been any recorded cases in my suburb, but I'd love to see proper mitigation tactics in place. I work in the CBD, meaning I have a 45 minute train ride after getting to the station AND go to a busy area, yet I'm still expected to work in the office rather than home. Obviously, my wife being quarantined throws a spanner in the works here (in a good way) but still... kind of wish more was done.

At this point, we're still struggling with toilet paper availability and physical altercations at our local shopping centres.

Good luck everybody - hope we all leave this conundrum well, and sooner rather than later.

Hope she gets better soon, not the time for respiratory problems in general, but certainly glad she didn't test positive.

Here's hoping the next grocery run goes smoothly too

[Owly]

My wife went to hospital with a fever, shortness of breath and incredibly bad body aches (she could barely speak/move) in general.

Her family also live with us, and her dad has had every health problem imaginable, and almost died from the flu last year.

Luckily, she got discharged and the tests revealed her to be coronavirus negative. But damn, what a fright.

Australia hasn't been hit too badly with the virus yet, and I don't think there have been any recorded cases in my suburb, but I'd love to see proper mitigation tactics in place. I work in the CBD, meaning I have a 45 minute train ride after getting to the station AND go to a busy area, yet I'm still expected to work in the office rather than home. Obviously, my wife being quarantined throws a spanner in the works here (in a good way) but still... kind of wish more was done.

At this point, we're still struggling with toilet paper availability and physical altercations at our local shopping centres.

Good luck everybody - hope we all leave this conundrum well, and sooner rather than later.

This sounds like a horrible experience you (and your wife, family) went through. Sympathies to you and hope you all come out the other side of this (both the global pandemic and any underlying cause/condition that might have created this scare) well and happy.

[MyUniBroDavis]

A lot of Gen Zs/younger milennials are not taking this seriously at ALL. I just can't quite figure out what kind of mindset it takes to see what is happening in the country and the world right in front of them and ignore it.

I wonder if it has to do with how modern-day media/social media makes it to where it seems like the sky is falling on a daily basis. For as long as social media has been around, people are bombarded with messages about how THIS IS THE WORST THING EVER, so you get desensitized to it.

Now that there's a real threat, said young people aren't going to take it seriously, because they've heard about threats and stuff for their entire lives.

I have no idea if this is true or not, I'm just talking out of my ass.

You pretty much hit the nail on the head. That combined with our generations' general apathy is a recipe for disaster.

PART 2 OH MY GOD

one usc kid in cabo got tested positive (they all go in their friend groups but same events)

AND ONE OF OUR ROOMATES WHO WENT TO CABO JUST CAME BACK WITHOUT TELLING US!

WHAT THE HELL WE SHARE THE SAME BATHROOM IM F**CKED

[MyUniBroDavis]

Gonna get tested with my friends before i move into my house out here cuz i dont wanna infect my sister lol

[ardee]

Gonna get tested with my friends before i move into my house out here cuz i dont wanna infect my sister lol

I don't want to frighten you but there's a good chance that at least initially you might end up with a false negative. Definitely speak to a doctor but I would say self quarantine for 14 days before going anywhere.

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[MyUniBroDavis]

Gonna get tested with my friends before i move into my house out here cuz i dont wanna infect my sister lol

I don't want to frighten you but there's a good chance that at least initially you might end up with a false negative. Definitely speak to a doctor but I would say self quarantine for 14 days before going anywhere.

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Everyones testing anyw so unless we get 6 false negatives in a row, and isnt it like a 3% shot anyw?

I dont reallt plan on going out anyw california is on lockdown lmao

[HeartBreakKid]

I'm isolated in Taiwan now. In Taiwan it's okay to go out - but there are some more spreads from the last few travelers who were able to get in. Knowing my luck by the time I am ready to go out everything will get shut .

Hope not, it'd be pretty sweet to live in a relative haven for a few months until this thing passes over.

[ardee]

Gonna get tested with my friends before i move into my house out here cuz i dont wanna infect my sister lol

I don't want to frighten you but there's a good chance that at least initially you might end up with a false negative. Definitely speak to a doctor but I would say self quarantine for 14 days before going anywhere.

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Everyones testing anyw so unless we get 6 false negatives in a row, and isnt it like a 3% shot anyw?

I dont reallt plan on going out anyw california is on lockdown lmao

Stay safe regardless my guy. You seem like you're responsible enough that you'll figure out how to keep yourself and others safe.

[Clyde Frazier]

Read on Twitter

I haven't come across *that* many coronavirus truthers, but... No words

[Doctor MJ]

I dont understand why they would go on lovkdown but not restrict travel before speing break

I didnt go but DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE GOING TO CONCERTS IN CABO RN AND GONNA COME BACK!?!?!

Literally like half my friends r still going to concerts there

Cabo spring break gonna decimate this country big oof

A lot of Gen Zs/younger milennials are not taking this seriously at ALL. I just can't quite figure out what kind of mindset it takes to see what is happening in the country and the world right in front of them and ignore it.

It's a culture wide problem that I don't think should be classified as a Gen Y/Z problem, speaking as a Gen Xer. Young people tend to be like this. It's why they don't vote and old people dominate the democracy. There's just an abstractness to all of this that gets more concrete when you experience more of life. I think probably the biggest shift comes when your peers start having kids. People are afraid for their kids and their parents, and this wakes them up.

But what I'll also say is that this is true of any society, and this is happening in America for reasons that tie into the way that more egghead-ish thinking has been rejected. If one facet of society tells you that the most knowledgeable people we have believe that the oceans are going to rise or that vaccines are really important or that evolution is a thing, and you come to believe they were wrong on that, then anything else that comes from that direction you're not simply skeptical of, you have a tendency to WANT to believe that it is false. This is the essence of polarization.

Once people start distrusting authorities, it's hard to get them to do what they need to do.

And I'm going to say: The President of the country literally firing people whose job it was to prepare us for this, making light of it, using the word 'hoax', being cavalier about touching people, making false statement that momentarily help with confidence, etc...these things tend to make people not take things all that seriously.

It's wrong to say that the rot started at the top - as in the President - because both he and the Spring Breakers did what they did because of American culture. The question is really if we can learn from this and get back to the healthier mindset Americans used to have. People came out of WWII filled with competence, confidence, and optimism, and they made a tremendous amount happen. How do we get back to something like that?

[Doctor MJ]

My wife went to hospital with a fever, shortness of breath and incredibly bad body aches (she could barely speak/move) in general.

Her family also live with us, and her dad has had every health problem imaginable, and almost died from the flu last year.

Luckily, she got discharged and the tests revealed her to be coronavirus negative. But damn, what a fright.

Australia hasn't been hit too badly with the virus yet, and I don't think there have been any recorded cases in my suburb, but I'd love to see proper mitigation tactics in place. I work in the CBD, meaning I have a 45 minute train ride after getting to the station AND go to a busy area, yet I'm still expected to work in the office rather than home. Obviously, my wife being quarantined throws a spanner in the works here (in a good way) but still... kind of wish more was done.

At this point, we're still struggling with toilet paper availability and physical altercations at our local shopping centres.

Good luck everybody - hope we all leave this conundrum well, and sooner rather than later.

Thank you for sharing BG. I'm glad it's not as bad as it could have been.

[Doctor MJ]

Gonna get tested with my friends before i move into my house out here cuz i dont wanna infect my sister lol

Thank you for being responsible. I'm sorry this happened to you regardless of how...but my god would I be irate at my roommate.

(But thinking back, I think a lot of my roommates would have been just as dumb, I was just fortunate there weren't any pandemics at the time.)

[Bad Gatorade]

Thank you for sharing BG. I'm glad it's not as bad as it could have been.

This BG is staying alive!

Gonna get tested with my friends before i move into my house out here cuz i dont wanna infect my sister lol

This is a very mature attitude to have - we can't get tested here anymore unless we've had contact with people that are either confirmed Coronavirus cases, or if we've had contact with those from overseas. But if you can get tested, it's a good idea to do so.

What I'm finding amongst my friends is that those that also have children/elders with health problems (and I happen to fall under both umbrellas) are taking isolation very seriously - placing our gym memberships on hold and essentially foregoing any social activity. Ditto for those that have family members that operate small businesses - the longer this goes on, the harder it is on those families.

Those that aren't under those umbrellas are basically doing whatever they want and treating social isolation as a joke.

The worst part is that so many people around me are expressing conspiracy theorist views on top of this, e.g. "this is clearly an American/Chinese inside job at chemical warfare, with the secret societies at play! The world is under their control!" Whether or not any of this is true or not... it doesn't change the fact that the virus is here, and affecting other people. The problem with this is that those around me that are manifesting themselves in these thoughts are missing the greater point, and treating the presence of the virus as a political ploy that will be settled elsewhere, rather than a reality that's directly in their domain that they need to act on.

Sure, there are plenty of things I won't be able to do at the same capacity anymore. But damn, I can catch up on TV I've been meaning to finish, experiment with home training/calisthenics a bit, play some video games. Heck, my job is a "national necessity" that I am fortunate enough to fulfil from the comfort of my laptop, so work can occupy my time too. And heck, I can just spend quality time with my wife and son (as well as my in laws, who happen to live in our house). I'm even planning on teaching my brother in law a bit of Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu to help pass the time.

It's a different lifestyle we've got to adopt, but there are plenty of ways of making it an enjoyable lifestyle nonetheless.

[HeartBreakKid]

Seems like Japan is hosting sporting events with crowds - K1 kickboxing had a big house this weekend.

Wonder if the government would let companies do it if they didn't have the Olympics coming up.

[LKN]

Read on Twitter

I haven't come across *that* many coronavirus truthers, but... No words

Someone should tell him that the flu hospitalization rate is something like 0.06 %

[E-Balla]

I dont understand why they would go on lovkdown but not restrict travel before speing break

I didnt go but DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE GOING TO CONCERTS IN CABO RN AND GONNA COME BACK!?!?!

Literally like half my friends r still going to concerts there

Cabo spring break gonna decimate this country big oof

A lot of Gen Zs/younger milennials are not taking this seriously at ALL. I just can't quite figure out what kind of mindset it takes to see what is happening in the country and the world right in front of them and ignore it.

It's a culture wide problem that I don't think should be classified as a Gen Y/Z problem, speaking as a Gen Xer. Young people tend to be like this. It's why they don't vote and old people dominate the democracy. There's just an abstractness to all of this that gets more concrete when you experience more of life. I think probably the biggest shift comes when your peers start having kids. People are afraid for their kids and their parents, and this wakes them up.

But what I'll also say is that this is true of any society, and this is happening in America for reasons that tie into the way that more egghead-ish thinking has been rejected. If one facet of society tells you that the most knowledgeable people we have believe that the oceans are going to rise or that vaccines are really important or that evolution is a thing, and you come to believe they were wrong on that, then anything else that comes from that direction you're not simply skeptical of, you have a tendency to WANT to believe that it is false. This is the essence of polarization.

Once people start distrusting authorities, it's hard to get them to do what they need to do.

And I'm going to say: The President of the country literally firing people whose job it was to prepare us for this, making light of it, using the word 'hoax', being cavalier about touching people, making false statement that momentarily help with confidence, etc...these things tend to make people not take things all that seriously.

It's wrong to say that the rot started at the top - as in the President - because both he and the Spring Breakers did what they did because of American culture. The question is really if we can learn from this and get back to the healthier mindset Americans used to have. People came out of WWII filled with competence, confidence, and optimism, and they made a tremendous amount happen. How do we get back to something like that?

This is an odd thing to say. Americans still have the same mindset they had back then and if anything that era birthed the mindset that's dooming us now.

Maybe you're getting it mixed up with the post depression era or something here.

[HeartBreakKid]

Most boomers didn't take corona seriously and they're the ones who will be affected by it the most.

Anyway, it's more so the governments fault than any particular generation of people. Defenses against a pandemic, much less one they saw coming were primitive.

[E-Balla]

Most boomers didn't take corona seriously and they're the ones who will be affected by it the most.

Anyway, it's more so the governments fault than any particular generation of people. Defenses against a pandemic, much less one they saw coming were primitive.

The people vote for the government so it's 100% a failure of all Americans. That doesn't just mean it's just millennials/gen z though, which I'm guessing is your main point.

That's also why it's funny Doc MJ is waxing poetic about the McCarthyism era since lack of trust in government oversight and anyone back then wanting the government doing anything being linked to communists post WWII is probably why when Trump got rid of the office that oversaw global pandemics people were happy the government "got smaller".

[Doctor MJ]

The question is really if we can learn from this and get back to the healthier mindset Americans used to have. People came out of WWII filled with competence, confidence, and optimism, and they made a tremendous amount happen. How do we get back to something like that?

This is an odd thing to say. Americans still have the same mindset they had back then and if anything that era birthed the mindset that's dooming us now.

Maybe you're getting it mixed up with the post depression era or something here.

Ever read this?
As we may think.

Basically, this was a guy strongly connected to the Manhattan Project and pioneers of what we now think of as Silicon Valley. This is him after WWII writing an article for a mainstream magazine in which he basically sketches out the user-interface of the internet as we know it today.

WWII was in the '40s, the dot com revolution was in the '90s, but the roots of the dot com revolution came from the leaders of the '40s. Guys who were making money to be sure - this guy founded Raytheon - but were thinking primarily about how to take humanity to the next level.

Then you get Civil Rights Movements and all sorts of super-optimistic thinking that went through the next couple decades.

Now, did the optimism back then influence the counter-cynicism that has been killing our culture since Nixon for the past half-century? Yes, but while you can criticize some of that optimism as misplaced the reality is that the big things we've achieved since then were basically thought through in that post-WWII time period.

I do understand that the whole "Everything was better in the '50s" thing is a myth. I'm not talking about nuclear families and pretending non-white people don't exist, I'm talking about empowered smart people actively taking humanity forward.

Since then we've been moving in a direction toward currently leadership which tries to make up for a lock of competence with bluster. A "C'mon, we're Americans, we'll do it better than anyone else because we're Americans!", which resonates with people because back when people Trump's age were growing up, the US won everything with a tremendous amount of rapidly growing technical competence. We had advantages of geography over other countries to be sure, but it still required a ton of competence and trusting of experts to do their thing. And now we have a guy in charge who openly mocks "experts".

[Doctor MJ]

That's also why it's funny Doc MJ is waxing poetic about the McCarthyism era since lack of trust in government oversight and anyone back then wanting the government doing anything being linked to communists post WWII is probably why when Trump got rid of the office that oversaw global pandemics people were happy the government "got smaller".

McCarthyism didn't define the '50s dude. McCarthy was an upstart trying to grab attention who within a few years was hated by almost everybody. To see the '50s in terms of him instead of Ike is not focusing on who actually had power. While McCarthy was seen as a has-been joke while the man who defined American government in the '50s, Ike, was still president.

On the other hand, the fear-your-fellow-American mentality that McCarthy used got repackaged by Nixon as "the Silent Majority", and Republicans have basically been running on that after since (with Trump as a clear cut case of it). So yeah, McCarthy's approach was later very influential within his party, but he has nothing to do with why big things of government accomplishment came out of that time, which is what I'm talking about.