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Re: 2020-21 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#3401 » by 70sFan » Wed Jun 16, 2021 9:36 am

therealbig3 wrote:Durant was fantastic against the Celtics in the first round too, so I would say he deserves to be named a top 5 playoff performer right now. And he didn't just have a great game, he had one of the all-time special performances you're ever gonna see in what was close to a must-win situation for the Nets, while being extremely undermanned. I don't think it's being too POTM to give him quite a boost based on that game.

I agree, Durant struggled in two games at Milwaukee but overall he's been very consistent so far and this game is by far the best game of his career - which says a lot given how good his career is.
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Post#3402 » by 70sFan » Wed Jun 16, 2021 9:46 am

By the way, have you ever seen a star that is such an unskilled post player like Giannis? Seriously, watching him in the post makes me feel like he does it the first time in his career. His footwork is absolutely terrible, he has no feel of defender behind him and his moves are very mechanical.

I don't want to be overly harsh on Giannis after this game because he played his best game of these playoffs so far, but this one aspect just makes me sick when I watch him.
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Post#3403 » by Zarozzor » Wed Jun 16, 2021 9:50 am

70sFan wrote:By the way, have you ever seen a star that is such an unskilled post player like Giannis? Seriously, watching him in the post makes me feel like he does it the first time in his career. His footwork is absolutely terrible, he has no feel of defender behind him and his moves are very mechanical.

I don't want to be overly harsh on Giannis after this game because he played his best game of these playoffs so far, but this one aspect just makes me sick when I watch him.

Giannis is one of the best examples of a players offensive stats not matching what you see while watching him in real time.
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Post#3404 » by CumberlandPosey » Wed Jun 16, 2021 11:02 am

70sFan wrote:By the way, have you ever seen a star that is such an unskilled post player like Giannis? Seriously, watching him in the post makes me feel like he does it the first time in his career. His footwork is absolutely terrible, he has no feel of defender behind him and his moves are very mechanical.

I don't want to be overly harsh on Giannis after this game because he played his best game of these playoffs so far, but this one aspect just makes me sick when I watch him.



yes.gobert or howard for example.thing is they arent offensive players but excel really on defense.luc longley looks fluid compared to greek freak.not sure he wins comparison against dale davis 8-)

what budenholzer fabricated in second half was a crime on basketball though.absolutely inexcusable.
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Post#3405 » by 70sFan » Wed Jun 16, 2021 11:06 am

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70sFan wrote:By the way, have you ever seen a star that is such an unskilled post player like Giannis? Seriously, watching him in the post makes me feel like he does it the first time in his career. His footwork is absolutely terrible, he has no feel of defender behind him and his moves are very mechanical.

I don't want to be overly harsh on Giannis after this game because he played his best game of these playoffs so far, but this one aspect just makes me sick when I watch him.



yes.gobert or howard for example.thing is they arent offensive players but excel really on defense.luc longley looks fluid compared to greek freak.not sure he wins comparison against dale davis 8-)

what budenholzer fabricated in second half was a crime on basketball though.absolutely inexcusable.

Gobert isn't offensive star though, Dwight was definitely better in the post than Giannis.
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Post#3406 » by MyUniBroDavis » Wed Jun 16, 2021 11:15 am

70sFan wrote:
CumberlandPosey wrote:
70sFan wrote:By the way, have you ever seen a star that is such an unskilled post player like Giannis? Seriously, watching him in the post makes me feel like he does it the first time in his career. His footwork is absolutely terrible, he has no feel of defender behind him and his moves are very mechanical.

I don't want to be overly harsh on Giannis after this game because he played his best game of these playoffs so far, but this one aspect just makes me sick when I watch him.



yes.gobert or howard for example.thing is they arent offensive players but excel really on defense.luc longley looks fluid compared to greek freak.not sure he wins comparison against dale davis 8-)

what budenholzer fabricated in second half was a crime on basketball though.absolutely inexcusable.

Gobert isn't offensive star though, Dwight was definitely better in the post than Giannis.


Giannis isn’t really a post guy though, as much of a “let me drive budenholzer but ffs counter when they build a damn wall please” guy

Honestly I know bron was hurt but even he struggled a bit when a team just decides to not do the right thinks tactically to certain things sadge, it’s kind of why the post game for the lakers wasn’t effective this year, side tangent but as much as people say the post game is dead it was ridiculously effective for the lakers when they actually were able to counter help D correctly, and we see with the nuggets who are like the golden standard of countering help D in the post a post centric offense can be hella effective


Obv a lot of it comes from his passing but AD and Bron for example are also stupidly effecient post players when the team aren’t idiots, it’s kind of interesting actually
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Post#3407 » by 70sFan » Wed Jun 16, 2021 11:20 am

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70sFan wrote:
CumberlandPosey wrote:

yes.gobert or howard for example.thing is they arent offensive players but excel really on defense.luc longley looks fluid compared to greek freak.not sure he wins comparison against dale davis 8-)

what budenholzer fabricated in second half was a crime on basketball though.absolutely inexcusable.

Gobert isn't offensive star though, Dwight was definitely better in the post than Giannis.


Giannis isn’t really a post guy though, as much of a “let me drive budenholzer but ffs counter when they build a damn wall please” guy

Honestly I know bron was hurt but even he struggled a bit when a team just decides to not do the right thinks tactically to certain things sadge, it’s kind of why the post game for the lakers wasn’t effective this year, side tangent but as much as people say the post game is dead it was ridiculously effective for the lakers when they actually were able to counter help D correctly, and we see with the nuggets who are like the golden standard of countering help D in the post a post centric offense can be hella effective


Obv a lot of it comes from his passing but AD and Bron for example are also stupidly effecient post players when the team aren’t idiots, it’s kind of interesting actually

But Giannis doesn't struggle because of lack of spacing. He has a lot of space to operate in the post in this series, it just seems that beating old Blake is a bit too much to ask...
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Post#3408 » by MyUniBroDavis » Wed Jun 16, 2021 11:24 am

70sFan wrote:
MyUniBroDavis wrote:
70sFan wrote:Gobert isn't offensive star though, Dwight was definitely better in the post than Giannis.


Giannis isn’t really a post guy though, as much of a “let me drive budenholzer but ffs counter when they build a damn wall please” guy

Honestly I know bron was hurt but even he struggled a bit when a team just decides to not do the right thinks tactically to certain things sadge, it’s kind of why the post game for the lakers wasn’t effective this year, side tangent but as much as people say the post game is dead it was ridiculously effective for the lakers when they actually were able to counter help D correctly, and we see with the nuggets who are like the golden standard of countering help D in the post a post centric offense can be hella effective


Obv a lot of it comes from his passing but AD and Bron for example are also stupidly effecient post players when the team aren’t idiots, it’s kind of interesting actually

But Giannis doesn't struggle because of lack of spacing. He has a lot of space to operate in the post in this series, it just seems that beating old Blake is a bit too much to ask...


Oh I was talking about AD and bron specifically, giannis in the post is prollu just memes and falling and hoping for the foul or something lol

It’s not really spacing but idt ad and bron in the post had the same issues as giannis

One was more the team tactics were doodoo giannis is more he needs to play DDR
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Post#3409 » by GSP » Wed Jun 16, 2021 11:33 am

70sFan wrote:By the way, have you ever seen a star that is such an unskilled post player like Giannis? Seriously, watching him in the post makes me feel like he does it the first time in his career. His footwork is absolutely terrible, he has no feel of defender behind him and his moves are very mechanical.

I don't want to be overly harsh on Giannis after this game because he played his best game of these playoffs so far, but this one aspect just makes me sick when I watch him.


It's not just post play TBH. What is Giannis actually skilled in? Even his passing is a product of drive and kicks with shooters all around him. He looks like a rugby or Nfl player in there most nights
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Post#3410 » by 70sFan » Wed Jun 16, 2021 11:38 am

GSP wrote:
70sFan wrote:By the way, have you ever seen a star that is such an unskilled post player like Giannis? Seriously, watching him in the post makes me feel like he does it the first time in his career. His footwork is absolutely terrible, he has no feel of defender behind him and his moves are very mechanical.

I don't want to be overly harsh on Giannis after this game because he played his best game of these playoffs so far, but this one aspect just makes me sick when I watch him.


It's not just post play TBH. What is Giannis actually skilled in? Even his passing is a product of drive and kicks with shooters all around him. He looks like a rugby or Nfl player in there most nights

He is really good in transition and he has decent handles for his size. Not enough to be the main (or even secondary) ball-handler on elite team though. His passing isn't bad either, although he's not natural passer like some other good bigs.

I just think that Giannis career trajectory went to the wrong direction. Right now, he's not skilled enough to be point forward and he can't play off-ball consistently because he always plays at point forward role.
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Post#3411 » by CumberlandPosey » Wed Jun 16, 2021 11:41 am

GSP wrote:
70sFan wrote:By the way, have you ever seen a star that is such an unskilled post player like Giannis? Seriously, watching him in the post makes me feel like he does it the first time in his career. His footwork is absolutely terrible, he has no feel of defender behind him and his moves are very mechanical.

I don't want to be overly harsh on Giannis after this game because he played his best game of these playoffs so far, but this one aspect just makes me sick when I watch him.


It's not just post play TBH. What is Giannis actually skilled in? Even his passing is a product of drive and kicks with shooters all around him. He looks like a rugby or Nfl player in there most nights


he is a skilled three-step-dunker when going to his right. :D
seriously he has major flaws but he get a lot of heat lately.some deserved i must admit.aesthetically he simply is not very pleasant for the eyes.not very nuanced game and almost no faking when it could be useful.always rumbling and bulldozing with these huge shoulders straight into the defender...
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Post#3412 » by Bergmaniac » Wed Jun 16, 2021 11:41 am

The Bucks just have serious mental issues from the playoff failures in the last few years, they looked totally panicked once the nets made their run in the third to even the score and started rushing everything. Even if they somehow pull this series off, I don't see them winning the title with this mentality and with Bud's coaching limitations.

Unbelievable performance by Durant, when he's on, he's really on, and he has such confidence in himself on the court these days. And Jeff Green was amazing. Harden gutted it out, but he obviously wasn't himself.
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Post#3413 » by MisterHibachi » Wed Jun 16, 2021 12:49 pm

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Post#3414 » by Fadeaway_J » Wed Jun 16, 2021 12:58 pm

Oh FFS
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Post#3415 » by Dutchball97 » Wed Jun 16, 2021 1:05 pm

Wow that is pretty huge. I don't see the Suns beating the Clippers or Jazz without Paul.
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Post#3418 » by Fadeaway_J » Wed Jun 16, 2021 1:15 pm

These playoffs are a complete shambles. :nonono:
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Post#3419 » by MO12msu » Wed Jun 16, 2021 1:16 pm

Oh this is just brutal.
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Post#3420 » by Zarozzor » Wed Jun 16, 2021 1:31 pm

I have never in my life seen a season like this.

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