2019-2020 Player of the Year Discussion Thread

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Re: 2019-2020 Player of the Year Discussion Thread 

Post#141 » by Doctor MJ » Thu May 21, 2020 9:24 pm

Texas Chuck wrote:Part of that is Curry's unique skillset, but mostly that's most teams can't afford to have their best player off the ball that much. It just wouldn't make sense to play that way.

I'm much more encouraged by what the Heat did with Duncan Robinson both in terms of how they used him on the court but also the steps they took trying to get him ready to do that. I think that's far more replicable(sp) than anything like Steph and it essentially takes the old Kyle Korver in Atlanta impact and pushes it further.

I mean even other elite shooters like Dirk or Durant or Kawhi are just so much more valuable to their teams on-ball. I think Curry's biggest influence is going to be the changing of geometry by pushing his range out so far beyond the line. We now see Dame and others following suit and their willingness and ability to hit these shots just opens so much up. Heck even KP who wasn't very consistent this year played a notable role in Dallas' league-leading offense because of how far out he took opposing bigs--especially after Powell went down and he played exclusively as a center.


This is true. I suppose the more important point in my book is that every team should be looking to get some guy that they can make use of in an off-ball role like this.
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Re: 2019-2020 Player of the Year Discussion Thread 

Post#142 » by freethedevil » Fri May 22, 2020 4:53 am

Doctor MJ wrote:
freethedevil wrote:
Doctor MJ wrote:


Not directly related but, do you have the updated list for --career-- poy shares?


I've switched machines and can't find the spreadsheet I made.

If someone want's to re-create, this archived version of semi-sentient's old site will give the data from the '50s to '11:

https://web.archive.org/web/20120703030935/http://rpoy.dolem.com/

Grabbing '12 through '19 will take some leg work, but you can find through the stickied links on this board.

So, I'd add the shares there with the more recent poy threads? that seems doable.

I might do it myself if I get the time. :D
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Re: 2019-2020 Player of the Year Discussion Thread 

Post#143 » by Doctor MJ » Fri May 22, 2020 5:06 am

freethedevil wrote:
Doctor MJ wrote:
freethedevil wrote:
Not directly related but, do you have the updated list for --career-- poy shares?


I've switched machines and can't find the spreadsheet I made.

If someone want's to re-create, this archived version of semi-sentient's old site will give the data from the '50s to '11:

https://web.archive.org/web/20120703030935/http://rpoy.dolem.com/

Grabbing '12 through '19 will take some leg work, but you can find through the stickied links on this board.

So, I'd add the shares there with the more recent poy threads? that seems doable.

I might do it myself if I get the time. :D


Cool, and actually I was just looking and found some stuff.

Here's one version of the spreadsheet updated through '11:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11mbgpas2t3L0iJE8SDIZ1YAVxflKOfu598gOMIgWxmM/edit?usp=sharing

Here's the Award Winner spreadsheet which includes other awards since '14-15. Starting to get interesting to see how that develops.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11mbgpas2t3L0iJE8SDIZ1YAVxflKOfu598gOMIgWxmM/edit?usp=sharing
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Re: 2019-2020 Player of the Year Discussion Thread 

Post#144 » by Bidofo » Fri May 22, 2020 10:50 pm

Doctor MJ wrote:
Cool, and actually I was just looking and found some stuff.

Here's one version of the spreadsheet updated through '11:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11mbgpas2t3L0iJE8SDIZ1YAVxflKOfu598gOMIgWxmM/edit?usp=sharing

Here's the Award Winner spreadsheet which includes other awards since '14-15. Starting to get interesting to see how that develops.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11mbgpas2t3L0iJE8SDIZ1YAVxflKOfu598gOMIgWxmM/edit?usp=sharing

I'm afraid it's the same link Doc :D
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Re: 2019-2020 Player of the Year Discussion Thread 

Post#145 » by Doctor MJ » Sat May 23, 2020 2:32 am

Bidofo wrote:
Doctor MJ wrote:
Cool, and actually I was just looking and found some stuff.

Here's one version of the spreadsheet updated through '11:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11mbgpas2t3L0iJE8SDIZ1YAVxflKOfu598gOMIgWxmM/edit?usp=sharing

Here's the Award Winner spreadsheet which includes other awards since '14-15. Starting to get interesting to see how that develops.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11mbgpas2t3L0iJE8SDIZ1YAVxflKOfu598gOMIgWxmM/edit?usp=sharing

I'm afraid it's the same link Doc :D


Gah! Thanks Bidofo.

Actual Award Winner link:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zpJktAaIF8pvMap-LgdfPzZvOcprhEZUNSqAg_Sy-dQ/edit#gid=0
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Re: 2019-2020 Player of the Year Discussion Thread 

Post#146 » by Doctor MJ » Sat May 23, 2020 2:57 am

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1MBPjmagr91KOtL3f0bz3pqtrgU52si26Fuv0CJZlzLA/edit#gid=0

Voting from last year.

I'll keep looking for more stuff like this.

Also, looking at '15-16, I literally cannot find my vote. Weird.
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Re: 2019-2020 Player of the Year Discussion Thread 

Post#147 » by Doctor MJ » Sat May 23, 2020 7:30 pm

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