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Atlanta TV station kicks Josh where it hurts.

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Re: Atlanta TV station kicks Josh where it hurts. 

Post#21 » by Yungsta404 » Sun Feb 16, 2014 8:59 pm

http://www.detroitbadboys.com/2014/1/16 ... h-sf-vs-pf

This article shows that Josh's shot distribution at SF and PF are virtually the same.
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Yet people to this day are STILL making excuses for this guy.
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Re: Atlanta TV station kicks Josh where it hurts. 

Post#22 » by Jamaaliver » Sun Feb 16, 2014 9:05 pm

I've seen Josh attempt to post up Iggy and Deng (ironically) in multiple years and have limited success scoring over either guy as they are just as strong as he is.
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Post#23 » by Yungsta404 » Sun Feb 16, 2014 9:25 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:I've seen Josh attempt to post up Iggy and Deng (ironically) in multiple years and have limited success scoring over either guy as they are just as strong as he is.


he only has consistent success posting up is when he is facing skinny twig SFs like paul george or batum. When he is facing any SF with some meat on their bones he sucks. His strength at SF is average and is below average at PF which is why he has been labeled as a tweener.

Parson is acting like he can overpower every SF in the league like hes lebron james lol.
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Post#24 » by MaceCase » Sun Feb 16, 2014 9:37 pm

RIP Ruhiel :lol: .

I guess he'd argue that the jury is still out on Josh at SF because the Pistons aren't playing Villanueva or Jorts at PF and C to space with Jerebko at SG to overwhelm the opposing team with size but of course I always contended that Josh simply isn't good enough to begin roster building around him.
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Re: Atlanta TV station kicks Josh where it hurts. 

Post#25 » by azuresou1 » Sun Feb 16, 2014 11:31 pm

Jamaal you should bump some old 'trade Horford for Thabeet/Motiejunas' Ruhiel threads just for yuks :lol:
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Re: Atlanta TV station kicks Josh where it hurts. 

Post#26 » by parson » Mon Feb 17, 2014 4:57 am

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Jamaaliver wrote:I've seen Josh attempt to post up Iggy and Deng (ironically) in multiple years and have limited success scoring over either guy as they are just as strong as he is.


he only has consistent success posting up is when he is facing skinny twig SFs like paul george or batum. When he is facing any SF with some meat on their bones he sucks. His strength at SF is average and is below average at PF which is why he has been labeled as a tweener.

Parson is acting like he can overpower every SF in the league like hes lebron james lol.

Smith is pretty strong but he can leap like few others. It's not complicated: once he gets anyone down low, he can just about jump up and hook over them. According to DraftExpress, there have been 14 players with a higher max vertical reach than Smith since 1989. Of those, 4 are presently in the NBA (Rudy Gay, Tyrus Thomas, JaVale McGee and Dwight Howard. Only one (Rudy Gay) is a SF - with a max vertical reach of only 1.7" more. Do the math.
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Post#27 » by PandaKidd » Mon Feb 17, 2014 4:01 pm

Josh Smith would have to WORK on his post game, something he has NEVER done, or stopped doing. Hes virtually the same player he was 5 years ago.

If he developed a true post up game he would be a dominant player. He has the athleticism (for now) to get out and run and dunk, but he has the long arms to be able to do jump hooks over guys like Iggy and such. He doesnt have to back down iggy, he has to face up and use his quickness to get around iggy, something IGGY could NEVER stop.

But he doesnt care, he wants to be a SG. He reminds me of the kids at the local LA FITNESS who comes down and jacks up 3 balls and never hits rim , but refuses to pass it to the gym rat that shoots 80% from the 3 pt range
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Post#28 » by RSCD3_ » Fri Feb 21, 2014 6:50 am

PandaKidd wrote:Josh Smith would have to WORK on his post game, something he has NEVER done, or stopped doing. Hes virtually the same player he was 5 years ago.

If he developed a true post up game he would be a dominant player. He has the athleticism (for now) to get out and run and dunk, but he has the long arms to be able to do jump hooks over guys like Iggy and such. He doesnt have to back down iggy, he has to face up and use his quickness to get around iggy, something IGGY could NEVER stop.

But he doesnt care, he wants to be a SG. He reminds me of the kids at the local LA FITNESS who comes down and jacks up 3 balls and never hits rim , but refuses to pass it to the gym rat that shoots 80% from the 3 pt range


Piston fan here and josh smith isnt even that athletic anymore, he's not getting a lot of weakside blocks and doing the quick things he did in his atlanta highlights

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Re: Atlanta TV station kicks Josh where it hurts. 

Post#29 » by NDaATL » Fri Feb 21, 2014 2:55 pm

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Yungsta404 wrote:
Jamaaliver wrote:I've seen Josh attempt to post up Iggy and Deng (ironically) in multiple years and have limited success scoring over either guy as they are just as strong as he is.


he only has consistent success posting up is when he is facing skinny twig SFs like paul george or batum. When he is facing any SF with some meat on their bones he sucks. His strength at SF is average and is below average at PF which is why he has been labeled as a tweener.

Parson is acting like he can overpower every SF in the league like hes lebron james lol.

Smith is pretty strong but he can leap like few others. It's not complicated: once he gets anyone down low, he can just about jump up and hook over them. According to DraftExpress, there have been 14 players with a higher max vertical reach than Smith since 1989. Of those, 4 are presently in the NBA (Rudy Gay, Tyrus Thomas, JaVale McGee and Dwight Howard. Only one (Rudy Gay) is a SF - with a max vertical reach of only 1.7" more. Do the math.

Short of having Dirk as your PF, any team with Josh Smith starting at SF is one of the worst shooting teams in the league. One fact of the NBA is that you have to stretch the floor and shoot the long ball if you want to win anything significant. The only way it MAY work is if you had a Curry/Thompson in the backcourt.

We tried the Smith at SF experience, numerous times. He can't play SF because it allows defenses to pack the lane, thus disrupting our entire offense unless you can shoot them out of it (we can't). And although he is very athletic, he is not quick laterally so he consistently gets beat off the dribble by SFs. Players like John Salmons would eat us alive. He cannot guard those players.

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