Atlanta Hawks Official Trade Ideas Thread Part 3

[jayu70]

Brogdon and 31 for Gallo and 16?

 4 difficult things to reconcile:
1. Huerter $14, Bogi $18 and Brogdon $21 - all at SG.

Even switching out Bogi for Gallo:
2. Brogdon and Nate McM have had issues.
3. Read that Brogdan doesn't necessarily wants to play SG, he wants the ball in his hands.
4. 2 injury plagued 29year olds swapped for each other: one more than the other, one with the higher longer salary - not worth giving #16 in my eyes.

[CP War Hawks]

Brogdon and 31 for Gallo and 16?

 4 difficult things to reconcile:
1. Huerter $14, Bogi $18 and Brogdon $21 - all at SG.

Even switching out Bogi for Gallo:
2. Brogdon and Nate McM have had issues.
3. Read that Brogdan doesn't necessarily wants to play SG, he wants the ball in his hands.
4. 2 injury plagued 29year olds swapped for each other: one more than the other, one with the higher longer salary - not worth giving #16 in my eyes.

The Hawks can mitigate certain factors. Nate is on the hot seat if he doesn't get a top 6 seed so I'd expect him to play nice. MB will get alot of usage being the 2nd best ball handler on the team. Bogi is definitely looking for a career year and securing his last big contract, there is a real threat of him opting out.

The Hawks can't rely on Trae being an iron man every season. He's due to miss double digit games at some point. MB basically solves the backup pg role and plays about 20 minutes alongside Trae. The 22.6 m hit is most problematic and likely means Gallo is cut and Collins trade is needed to shore up spots with cheaper talent.

All in all I can take or leave Brogdon.

[saloonyk8]

Brogdon and 31 for Gallo and 16?

 4 difficult things to reconcile:
1. Huerter $14, Bogi $18 and Brogdon $21 - all at SG.

Even switching out Bogi for Gallo:
2. Brogdon and Nate McM have had issues.
3. Read that Brogdan doesn't necessarily wants to play SG, he wants the ball in his hands.
4. 2 injury plagued 29year olds swapped for each other: one more than the other, one with the higher longer salary - not worth giving #16 in my eyes.

I could see this before the draft.... AND Collins for#7. That frees up Collins money...

And still keeps us in the game for a consolidation trade with Bogi, Huerter, or Cap being the matching salaries of TS insists on Ayton or Gobert.... Or Simmons Beal become available

[saloonyk8]

I find it interesting that hawks are mentioned in almost every single rumor lol.

How to people feel about Anuoby? If blazers are going hard after him I'd like to think he would worth a high price for us.

Collins/#7, Bogi, OO, 2FRP would probably be on the table.

Not sure what Toronto would want

[NYG]

Brogdon and 31 for Gallo and 16?

 4 difficult things to reconcile:
1. Huerter $14, Bogi $18 and Brogdon $21 - all at SG.

Even switching out Bogi for Gallo:
2. Brogdon and Nate McM have had issues.
3. Read that Brogdan doesn't necessarily wants to play SG, he wants the ball in his hands.
4. 2 injury plagued 29year olds swapped for each other: one more than the other, one with the higher longer salary - not worth giving #16 in my eyes.

I could see this before the draft.... AND Collins for#7. That frees up Collins money...

And still keeps us in the game for a consolidation trade with Bogi, Huerter, or Cap being the matching salaries of TS insists on Ayton or Gobert.... Or Simmons Beal become available

Collins for 7 and Bledsoe

Bledsoe and 16 for Brogdon

Then trade a second to OKC with Gallinari to get rid of that $5 Million

[tbhawksfan1]

How many mediocre or worse SGs do we need? Why does everyone want to trade JC for #7?

I have nothing against trades and/or trading JC but a non top lottery pick is not the way that I would go. Thinking that a wing drafted at #7 will be better than what we have in the next two, three years is a real longshot.

Trading a solid, yet limited starter for #7 is a rebuilding move

[Cricket23]

Celtic fan here; what does it take to get Kevin Huerter? Derrick White? TPE? Something else?

[King Ken]

Celtic fan here; what does it take to get Kevin Huerter? Derrick White? TPE? Something else?

Atlanta actually spoke to you guys about Kevin before the trade deadline. It was about Marcus Smart. Atlanta would love White if he was 6'8 with a 6'11 wingspan but he's the same size as Delon which is a PG sized. Not worth Kevin for us.

[King Ken]

Brogdon and 31 for Gallo and 16?

 4 difficult things to reconcile:
1. Huerter $14, Bogi $18 and Brogdon $21 - all at SG.

Even switching out Bogi for Gallo:
2. Brogdon and Nate McM have had issues.
3. Read that Brogdan doesn't necessarily wants to play SG, he wants the ball in his hands.
4. 2 injury plagued 29year olds swapped for each other: one more than the other, one with the higher longer salary - not worth giving #16 in my eyes.

It's always dudes who don't watch much Basketball naming Brodgon as if Trae isn't ball-dominant and Malcolm is available because he's too ball-dominant for Haliburton, how do you think he would feel next to Trae.

[Cricket23]

Celtic fan here; what does it take to get Kevin Huerter? Derrick White? TPE? Something else?

Atlanta actually spoke to you guys about Kevin before the trade deadline. It was about Marcus Smart. Atlanta would love White if he was 6'8 with a 6'11 wingspan but he's the same size as Delon which is a PG sized. Not worth Kevin for us.

So do the Hawks view him as a pretty positive asset?

[King Ken]

Celtic fan here; what does it take to get Kevin Huerter? Derrick White? TPE? Something else?

Atlanta actually spoke to you guys about Kevin before the trade deadline. It was about Marcus Smart. Atlanta would love White if he was 6'8 with a 6'11 wingspan but he's the same size as Delon which is a PG sized. Not worth Kevin for us.

So do the Hawks view him as a pretty positive asset?

Hell yeah. Atlanta has no bad contracts and Kevin might have the best contract from a value stance. He barely is making **** for a vet. He's paid like a good 6th man but used as a 4th option starter.

[Jamaaliver]

This feels like a solid trade. At #6, I'd prefer Keegan Murray as a replacement at PF who can get his own shot pretty consistently.

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But grabbing Dyson Daniels as a lockdown wing defender could work instead...assuming we have a plan for another PF.

Hawks Move into the Lottery, Pacers Land John Collins



Atlanta Hawks Receive: No. 6 overall pick, F/C Isaiah Jackson, PG TJ McConnell

Indiana Pacers Receive: No. 16 overall pick, F/C John Collins

The Hawks already have the No. 16 overall pick in the draft but apparently want to move up.

As Kevin O'Connor of The Ringer writes, "League sources say the Hawks are looking to add a lottery pick either by outright trading John Collins or also including this selection."

The Pacers make sense as a trade partner, as Collins would fit as a starting power forward next to Myles Turner for an Indiana team likely looking to return to the playoffs as quickly as possible.

Simply giving up the No. 6 overall pick for Collins would be too much, but moving back 10 spots and still keeping a quality pick at No. 16 seems about right.

For the Hawks, giving up Collins and the No. 16 overall pick better net a good return. Moving up to sixth overall satisfies the team's reported desire to add a lottery pick, where Atlanta could nab a player such as Dyson Daniels, Shaedon Sharpe or Keegan Murray.

Getting Jackson helps make up for the loss of Collins, and McConnell gives the Hawks another much-needed playmaker, especially with backup point guard Delon Wright set to become an unrestricted free agent.

If the Hawks want to move up in the draft and are looking for teams that would be interested in Collins, Indiana seems like a perfect fit.

Bleacher Report

[Madd Squabbles]

Hi! I live in Atlanta but I'm not a Hawks fan. I follow the Pels among several other teams. I would like the boards opinion on the following trade. I'm interested to see if it is something the Hawks would do. I also welcome counter offers instead of just no you wouldn't do it if you don't mind.

Here goes!

Hawks get:

Devonte Graham
Jaxson Hayes
Garrett Temple
2022 #8 Draft Pick

Pels get:

John Collins
2022 #16 Draft Pick
Filler

[Jamaaliver]

Hi! I live in Atlanta but I'm not a Hawks fan. I follow the Pels among several other teams. I would like the boards opinion on the following trade. I'm interested to see if it is something the Hawks would do. I also welcome counter offers instead of just no you wouldn't do it if you don't mind.

Here goes!

Hawks get:

Devonte Graham
Jaxson Hayes
Garrett Temple
2022 #8 Draft Pick

Pels get:

John Collins
2022 #16 Draft Pick
Filler

Welcome, bud.

I think the Hawks would at least consider some version of this trade on draft night...assuming one of the players they really like is still available at #8.

There might be some modifications needed, though.

1) Jaxson Hayes is a solid pro, but we already have two starting caliber Centers on our roster we prefer. Also, Jaxson's legal troubles are problematic.

2) All the players we're getting back in return are backups also. If we're giving up the best player in this trade and a solid 1st round pick, we'd likely ask for a bit more value.

3) I honestly forgot Garrett Temple was still in the NBA.

Maybe swap in Larry Nance and/or Trey Murphy III. D Graham would be a solid backup for us.

But John Collins for pick #8 seems in line with trade rumors we've heard elsewhere this month.

[Madd Squabbles]

Hi! I live in Atlanta but I'm not a Hawks fan. I follow the Pels among several other teams. I would like the boards opinion on the following trade. I'm interested to see if it is something the Hawks would do. I also welcome counter offers instead of just no you wouldn't do it if you don't mind.

Here goes!

Hawks get:

Devonte Graham
Jaxson Hayes
Garrett Temple
2022 #8 Draft Pick

Pels get:

John Collins
2022 #16 Draft Pick
Filler

Welcome, bud.

I think the Hawks would at least consider some version of this trade on draft night...assuming one of the players they really like is still available at #8.

There might be some modifications needed, though.

1) Jaxson Hayes is a solid pro, but we already have two starting caliber Centers on our roster we prefer. Also, Jaxson's legal troubles are problematic.

2) All the players we're getting back in return are backups also. If we're giving up the best player in this trade and a solid 1st round pick, we'd likely ask for a bit more value.

3) I honestly forgot Garrett Temple was still in the NBA.

Maybe swap in Larry Nance and/or Trey Murphy III. D Graham would be a solid backup for us.

But John Collins for pick #8 seems in line with trade rumors we've heard elsewhere this month.

I know Hayes is 6'11" but he is used as a power forward in New Orleans. He started at power forward this year next to JV. Nance actually played back-up center for us. Nance is actually more of a center than Hayes is but I would have no problem substituting Hayes for Nance.

Would you agree with the revised trade? I'm anticipating the best player that will be available at #8 will be Dyson Daniels. Would he be a player the Hawks would be interested in?

[Jamaaliver]

I know Hayes is 6'11" but he is used as a power forward in New Orleans. He started at power forward this year next to JV. Nance actually played back-up center for us. Nance is actually more of a center than Hayes is but I would have no problem substituting Hayes for Nance.

Would you agree with the revised trade? I'm anticipating the best player that will be available at #8 will be Dyson Daniels. Would he be a player the Hawks would be interested in?

It is a deal ATL would likely consider if they love a player still available on draft night. It isn't a slam dunk, though.

And, yes. Hawks have expressed interest in Dyson Daniels by multiple accounts.

[dms269]

I am not a big fan of that trade with NO. I don't feel that Hayes has a ton of value, especially with his major legal issue (domestic violence and the hitting a cop). Graham is what sucks value out of the deal. Bad defender (worse, statistically than Huerter or Bogi). Getting 8 is nice, but not sure it is worth Collins, 16, and taking on Graham.

[Madd Squabbles]

I am not a big fan of that trade with NO. I don't feel that Hayes has a ton of value, especially with his major legal issue (domestic violence and the hitting a cop). Graham is what sucks value out of the deal. Bad defender (worse, statistically than Huerter or Bogi). Getting 8 is nice, but not sure it is worth Collins, 16, and taking on Graham.

Do you have a reasonable counter-offer that you believe the Pels would consider?

[saloonyk8]

I saw a mock trade of Patrick Williams and Caruso for John Collins.

I would do that in a second lol

[D21]

I saw a mock trade of Patrick Williams and Caruso for John Collins.

I would do that in a second lol

At first, I would say "maybe", but after checking that this season:
CHI without him 115off 115def
CHI with him 110off 117def
and not better than that the previous season where he played more, I'm a bit septic