Look I love Lloyd as a player development coach, he works great with the guys and really cares. I hope we do well and reach our max potential with him, but sadly my guess is that we won’t.
If he gets the axe, then my list is short.
1. Mark Jackson 2. Becky Hammon 3. Kenny Atkinson
Whose on your list? You all thinking Lloyd will be the long term solution here in Atlanta for us?
Re: If Lloyd doesn’t last as coach
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 4:55 pm
by tbhawksfan1
Mark Jackson...? Dude is blackballed for reasons. I like #2 and #3 though
Re: If Lloyd doesn’t last as coach
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 4:57 pm
by Ghost999
Spud2nique wrote:Look I love Lloyd as a player development coach, he works great with the guys and really cares. I hope we do well and reach our max potential with him, but sadly my guess is that we won’t.
If he gets the axe, then my list is short.
1. Mark Jackson 2. Becky Hammon 3. Kenny Atkinson
Whose on your list? You all thinking Lloyd will be the long term solution here in Atlanta for us?
Those would be good choices, but my money is on Nate McMillan taking over if things go south. He has been coaching as long as I can remember. I still can't believe we got him as an assistant.
Re: If Lloyd doesn’t last as coach
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 4:58 pm
by tbhawksfan1
TBH I think my anti Pierce posts are rubbing some wrong. I'm not anti Pierce per say. Just not convinced that he's a very good coach and I would like to have a very good coach.
Trae don't like him though and that is a BIG problem
Re: If Lloyd doesn’t last as coach
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 5:24 pm
by Spud2nique
tbhawksfan1 wrote:TBH I think my anti Pierce posts are rubbing some wrong. I'm not anti Pierce per say. Just not convinced that he's a very good coach and I would like to have a very good coach.
Trae don't like him though and that is a BIG problem
I haven’t read your anti Lloyd threads. What did you say?
Again, I think he’s a great teacher of the game but his natural instincts as a coach don’t seem to be there. I think we have a ceiling as far as wins and advancing to another level with him as the coach.
Becky Hammon would be a great fit with Trae I think. Plus she’s another under coach Pop and I honestly think she has soaked up more info being with Pop than other has with Pop since prolly coach Bud or Udoka, another candidate that might be under the radar and in the Spurs system for a minute.
Re: If Lloyd doesn’t last as coach
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 5:30 pm
by HMFFL
Edit Change of heart.
Re: If Lloyd doesn’t last as coach
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 6:46 pm
by tbhawksfan1
Spud2nique wrote:
tbhawksfan1 wrote:TBH I think my anti Pierce posts are rubbing some wrong. I'm not anti Pierce per say. Just not convinced that he's a very good coach and I would like to have a very good coach.
Trae don't like him though and that is a BIG problem
I haven’t read your anti Lloyd threads. What did you say?
Again, I think he’s a great teacher of the game but his natural instincts as a coach don’t seem to be there. I think we have a ceiling as far as wins and advancing to another level with him as the coach.
Becky Hammon would be a great fit with Trae I think. Plus she’s another under coach Pop and I honestly think she has soaked up more info being with Pop than other has with Pop since prolly coach Bud or Udoka, another candidate that might be under the radar and in the Spurs system for a minute.
Just talking about the JC / Trae thing and the fact that Trae's Dad has been openly anti Pierce for a while now. Pierce is in his third season and I'm not seeing anything to make me think he's a good coach. He's a handsome man and I like his political / social stances, but as a coach... not so much.
I think the team would benefit from a guy that would have the respect of the players and a proven background as an X and O coach
What I think not withstanding. Pierce has lost Trae and Trae is the most important piece to this team. Pierce isn't
Re: If Lloyd doesn’t last as coach
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 8:06 pm
by Spud2nique
tbhawksfan1 wrote:
Spud2nique wrote:
tbhawksfan1 wrote:TBH I think my anti Pierce posts are rubbing some wrong. I'm not anti Pierce per say. Just not convinced that he's a very good coach and I would like to have a very good coach.
Trae don't like him though and that is a BIG problem
I haven’t read your anti Lloyd threads. What did you say?
Again, I think he’s a great teacher of the game but his natural instincts as a coach don’t seem to be there. I think we have a ceiling as far as wins and advancing to another level with him as the coach.
Becky Hammon would be a great fit with Trae I think. Plus she’s another under coach Pop and I honestly think she has soaked up more info being with Pop than other has with Pop since prolly coach Bud or Udoka, another candidate that might be under the radar and in the Spurs system for a minute.
Just talking about the JC / Trae thing and the fact that Trae's Dad has been openly anti Pierce for a while now. Pierce is in his third season and I'm not seeing anything to make me think he's a good coach. He's a handsome man and I like his political / social stances, but as a coach... not so much.
I think the team would benefit from a guy that would have the respect of the players and a proven background as an X and O coach
What I think not withstanding. Pierce has lost Trae and Trae is the most important piece to this team. Pierce isn't
I felt this for a while too and didn’t say it in the other land because it was taboo there and some folks (cough cough) were Lloyd sack chasers. Look I love the guy in teaching the tools of the game and in the community, I don’t see him lasting but that’s just a prediction. I hope to god I’m wrong because if not, our season will end with no playoffs.
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Re: If Lloyd doesn’t last as coach
Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 12:30 am
by Jamaaliver
And a few names from our previous coaching search...
While I am okay parting with Lloyd as HC, I do hope we wait until the offseason so we can really assess the entire season, roster and direction of the franchise.
I want to give him every chance to adjust to the difficulties this season has presented.
And I don't want Nate McMillan as a long term coaching option. He's a good coach, but not a great one.
Re: If Lloyd doesn’t last as coach
Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2021 3:07 pm
by Spud2nique
Jamaaliver wrote:While I am okay parting with Lloyd as HC, I do hope we wait until the offseason so we can really assess the entire season, roster and direction of the franchise.
I want to give him every chance to adjust to the difficulties this season has presented.
And I don't want Nate McMillan as a long term coaching option. He's a good coach, but not a great one.
Hey I’m always optimistic and see the glass half full when it comes to the Hawks. I’ve had Lloyd’s back up until the loss vs the Spurs.
I don’t want to get rid of the guy for McMillan either but what if he losses another 10 in a row or 9/10, do we just keep rolling till the end of the season?
I do understand growing pains but when things are off you just can’t keep on rolling with them in the same manner, that’s referred to an insanity, not to be mistaken with Vinsanity.
Nate says what now? Nah, I don’t believe you Nate. You know a guy can stay up late and care but if it doesn’t translate to some wins, you get the axe! More pressure coming after tonight’s loss to Denver. Wait for it, I’ll be back in a couple hours hopefully to eat crow and not say I was right.
Re: If Lloyd doesn’t last as coach
Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2021 12:04 am
by Spud2nique
He makes a couple more crap decisions and I need JC to throw a towel in his face like Horry did Ainge in Phoenix.
Re: If Lloyd doesn’t last as coach
Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2021 2:56 am
by Spud2nique
2-1 with Nate. Just saying it might not be a coincidence.
