Celtics General Offseason Thread Pt 11: Kanter believe you thought of former player

[Darth Celtic]

My only concern about Smart is that he shot horribly coming back from his injury. He keeps grinding on his shooting, but it’s possible he fell into a groove all season and will struggle again from long range.

It’s because smart isn’t really a reliable shooter. You can’t have your point guard struggling to make every open jumper and free throws. While he’s probably our best defender, he’s just can’t be trusted offensively for now, and his playmaking skills is just average at best. With his comments recently, i don’t find him as a guy who can lead as well. Maybe just a good locker room guy, but definitely not a leader type. Lets see how he does this season coming off the bench.

So, because he didn't come out and blame others and make it worse, and said the team failed not "so and so", he's not a guy who can lead well?

It's just 100% the opposite of that. That makes him a leader. He took blame.

[Triple7]

My only concern about Smart is that he shot horribly coming back from his injury. He keeps grinding on his shooting, but it’s possible he fell into a groove all season and will struggle again from long range.

It’s because smart isn’t really a reliable shooter. You can’t have your point guard struggling to make every open jumper and free throws. While he’s probably our best defender, he’s just can’t be trusted offensively for now, and his playmaking skills is just average at best. With his comments recently, i don’t find him as a guy who can lead as well. Maybe just a good locker room guy, but definitely not a leader type. Lets see how he does this season coming off the bench.

So, because he didn't come out and blame others and make it worse, and said the team failed not "so and so", he's not a guy who can lead well?

It's just 100% the opposite of that. That makes him a leader. He took blame.

Smart is not the leader of this team last year. It’s Al and Kyrie. Kyrie is the leader, a bad and awful leader. Smart is just the glue guy. I don’t recall smart taking the blame for the disaster of last season, and taking the blame doesn’t make you the leader all of a sudden. I haven’t heard anyone from the celtics, from the players and coaches saying smart is the leader, but that doesn’t mean he can’t lead now. I expect him to be one this year, be more vocal as well.

[Feed Your Head]

My only concern about Smart is that he shot horribly coming back from his injury. He keeps grinding on his shooting, but it’s possible he fell into a groove all season and will struggle again from long range.

It’s because smart isn’t really a reliable shooter. You can’t have your point guard struggling to make every open jumper and free throws. While he’s probably our best defender, he’s just can’t be trusted offensively for now, and his playmaking skills is just average at best. With his comments recently, i don’t find him as a guy who can lead as well. Maybe just a good locker room guy, but definitely not a leader type. Lets see how he does this season coming off the bench.

So, because he didn't come out and blame others and make it worse, and said the team failed not "so and so", he's not a guy who can lead well?

It's just 100% the opposite of that. That makes him a leader. He took blame.

Just to pile on, he is a career 76% FT shooter, apparently that is struggling? He's also an above average playmaker, saying he is average at best is ridiculous.

I'm very confused at some people having any issue with what he said. It was never about him, he spoke about everything as a team. Refused to blame anyone, didn't throw anyone under the bus. This is completely about the fact that he didn't **** on Kyrie, which was also mature and a good look. People just love to hate on Smart, but whatever. Dont jump on the bandwagon when he shoots 45/37/80 next year.

[Feed Your Head]

It’s because smart isn’t really a reliable shooter. You can’t have your point guard struggling to make every open jumper and free throws. While he’s probably our best defender, he’s just can’t be trusted offensively for now, and his playmaking skills is just average at best. With his comments recently, i don’t find him as a guy who can lead as well. Maybe just a good locker room guy, but definitely not a leader type. Lets see how he does this season coming off the bench.

So, because he didn't come out and blame others and make it worse, and said the team failed not "so and so", he's not a guy who can lead well?

It's just 100% the opposite of that. That makes him a leader. He took blame.

Smart is not the leader of this team last year. It’s Al and Kyrie. Kyrie is the leader, a bad and awful leader. Smart is just the glue guy. I don’t recall smart taking the blame for the disaster of last season, and taking the blame doesn’t make you the leader all of a sudden. I haven’t heard anyone from the celtics, from the players and coaches saying smart is the leader, but that doesn’t mean he can’t lead now. I expect him to be one this year, be more vocal as well.

Al regularly called him the heart of the team, and multiple players referred to him as a leader on multiple occasions.

[The_Ghost_of_JB]

Not sold as Smart as a leader of this team when he continually becomes unhinged and goes after people and shoves them from behind.

[robdog_5]

Smart is a leader but I do agree he needs to not hurt himself and team by pushing people, punching a mirror and letting his frustration get the best of him. But he has the right spirit to lead.

[Half-Full]

Not sold as Smart as a leader of this team when he continually becomes unhinged and goes after people and shoves them from behind.

Not saying that Smart has never done that, but I have not missed more than 2-3 games/year since Smart has been on the team. To say that he "continually becomes unhinged and goes after people" is a gross exaggeration.

[Triple7]

It’s because smart isn’t really a reliable shooter. You can’t have your point guard struggling to make every open jumper and free throws. While he’s probably our best defender, he’s just can’t be trusted offensively for now, and his playmaking skills is just average at best. With his comments recently, i don’t find him as a guy who can lead as well. Maybe just a good locker room guy, but definitely not a leader type. Lets see how he does this season coming off the bench.

So, because he didn't come out and blame others and make it worse, and said the team failed not "so and so", he's not a guy who can lead well?

It's just 100% the opposite of that. That makes him a leader. He took blame.

Just to pile on, he is a career 76% FT shooter, apparently that is struggling? He's also an above average playmaker, saying he is average at best is ridiculous.

I'm very confused at some people having any issue with what he said. It was never about him, he spoke about everything as a team. Refused to blame anyone, didn't throw anyone under the bus. This is completely about the fact that he didn't **** on Kyrie, which was also mature and a good look. People just love to hate on Smart, but whatever. Dont jump on the bandwagon when he shoots 45/37/80 next year.

Nah! His playmaking skills is average at best.

[Triple7]

So, because he didn't come out and blame others and make it worse, and said the team failed not "so and so", he's not a guy who can lead well?

It's just 100% the opposite of that. That makes him a leader. He took blame.

Smart is not the leader of this team last year. It’s Al and Kyrie. Kyrie is the leader, a bad and awful leader. Smart is just the glue guy. I don’t recall smart taking the blame for the disaster of last season, and taking the blame doesn’t make you the leader all of a sudden. I haven’t heard anyone from the celtics, from the players and coaches saying smart is the leader, but that doesn’t mean he can’t lead now. I expect him to be one this year, be more vocal as well.

So regularly called him the heart of the team, and multiple players referred to him as a leader on multiple occasions.

Well if he’s the leader of the team last year, then he did a poor job of being one. It’s the team leader’s responsibility to build and develop chemistry.

[Darth Celtic]

Not sold as Smart as a leader of this team when he continually becomes unhinged and goes after people and shoves them from behind.

So you mad that he "went after" Smith when he shoved Horford going up for an uncontested dunk?

And you make it sound like Smart didn't have a case to shove Embiid. The dude drop his shoulder on a pick and decleated Smart which the officials just ignored for some reason.

I like it. He isn't dirty, but he is all about that life Jimmy Butler.

[sam_I_am]

I sometimes wish Carmelo Anthony could fill the Jonas Jerebko role of stretch 4 for us....he used to be so good in international basketball I always figured he would thrive in this new era. Unfortunately he isn’t cut out for it.

[CeltsfanSinceBirth]

I sometimes wish Carmelo Anthony could fill the Jonas Jerebko role of stretch 4 for us....he used to be so good in international basketball I always figured he would thrive in this new era. Unfortunately he isn’t cut out for it.

Every time I want to feel bad for the guy, I just recall this clip in my head, and all empathy goes away.

Watch on YouTube

He's really got no choice but to accept a bench role, as all eyes will be on him. Basically his final chance in the NBA. However, his desire for a "farewell tour" leads me to believe that he'd still get upset if Brad were to have him as a 12th man who only got garbage time minutes. He'd also poison Tatum....whom, sadly, is rumored to be working with him this summer.

[3D Chess]

Read on Twitter

A W for Xmas.

[MagicBagley18]

Much rather play the nets and kyrie....raps is lame to me

[Parliament10]

Like I said in the other thread.:

Smart is the de facto leader of this team.
Particularly going forward.

He's been here the longest. That does qualify him to be the Captain.
Of course, Smart has made mistakes in his past. As any human has.

We have a new team now. Half of last years guys are gone.
And Smart is the leader.


Not too many players come on the scene being all things. If ever.
Even Paul Pierce had his problems early on.

This is a Human Team, made up of Human Players.
Not sure what everyone expects. But that's what we got.

[Green89]

Much rather play the nets and kyrie....raps is lame to me

Didn't some tweet a week or two ago say we were playing the Nets on Christmas Day? Whoever that was, put them on the unreliable source list.

[Half-Full]

So, because he didn't come out and blame others and make it worse, and said the team failed not "so and so", he's not a guy who can lead well?

It's just 100% the opposite of that. That makes him a leader. He took blame.

Just to pile on, he is a career 76% FT shooter, apparently that is struggling? He's also an above average playmaker, saying he is average at best is ridiculous.

I'm very confused at some people having any issue with what he said. It was never about him, he spoke about everything as a team. Refused to blame anyone, didn't throw anyone under the bus. This is completely about the fact that he didn't **** on Kyrie, which was also mature and a good look. People just love to hate on Smart, but whatever. Dont jump on the bandwagon when he shoots 45/37/80 next year.

Nah! His playmaking skills is average at best.

Marcus Smart is my favorite Celtic by a wide margin. I believe his playmaking skills are better than average. This video shows some examples of what a good playmaker he is (not to mention the other stuff he brings to the table). Sure, the video is a highlight video that shows stellar plays cherry picked from last season. There are some that will disparage it for that reason. Me, I see it, and am reminded why he is my favorite player.

Watch on YouTube

[Higgs Boston]

new orleans vs denver and boston vs toronto? WTF who did that schedule? only clippers vs lakers makes sense.

[The_Ghost_of_JB]

new orleans vs denver and boston vs toronto? WTF who did that schedule? only clippers vs lakers makes sense.

It's not as good as a Celtics versus the nets but to me it makes sense. As for the nuggets and pelicans. Going to assume the NBA thinks Williams is going to be a big draw

[bigfoot_cryptozoology]

It's always better, in terms of Title results, if the leader of the team is a Star: Cousy, Russell, Cowens, Bird, Pierce... so on. Smart can be the leader of the Bench, while Walker or Tatum takes charge.